The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[TightEnd]

this is excruciating, poor woman

she finishes her speech and asks for questions

https://twitter.com/conor_mcnally/status/752468677950337024/video/1

(they all had to leave to go to Leadsom)

[Woodsey]

this is excruciating, poor woman

she finishes her speech and asks for questions

https://twitter.com/conor_mcnally/status/752468677950337024/video/1

(they all had to leave to go to Leadsom)

She gets a bit desperate there towards the end, Robin Peston..... 😆

Not sure what my price would be to be a politician.

[Woodsey]

Is everyone else over their Brexit meltdown yet? 

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/09/post-brexit-meltdown

[doubleup]

Does anyone have a link to the old politics thread?  The one where various tory types were saying it was an utter disgrace that Gordon Brown was running the country without being elected?

[Woodsey]

Does anyone have a link to the old politics thread?  The one where various tory types were saying it was an utter disgrace that Gordon Brown was running the country without being elected?

No

[Woodsey]

Early general election on old boundaries giving Labour a slight chance of winning or wait until 2020 and new boundaries with no chance of Labour getting there?

if as suggested a labour leadership battle might have to go through the courts, must be tempting to go now against an opposition that looks all over the shop (tactically) and might have de facto two leaders (corbyn and a challenger) through an election campaign

love them or hate them the one thing the conservative party doesn't do is dick around when it has to make changes and is happily brutal in getting there.

new leader appointed start to finish in three weeks gives them a lot of flexibility now to go or wait

On the same theme...

'There is a reason why the Conservative party is the most electorally successful political organisation in the western world. They have an iron will to power their rivals lack – and they have just shown it once again'

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jul/11/theresa-may-tories-power-labour

[TightEnd]

Does anyone have a link to the old politics thread?  The one where various tory types were saying it was an utter disgrace that Gordon Brown was running the country without being elected?

its a fair point i think, and doubt few (the uncertainty aside) would argue that an early general election would be a bad idea

get a mandate to implement whatever type of brexit they campaign on....

of course, we elect parties and not individuals so they can carry on to 2020 if they wish

(this all assumes 66% of parliament would vote to repeal the Fixed term parliaments act anyway.)

[arbboy]

Does anyone have a link to the old politics thread?  The one where various tory types were saying it was an utter disgrace that Gordon Brown was running the country without being elected?

I said it then and i stand by it now the other way around as a tory.  I know the rules state it doesn't have to happen because we elect parties but i think there should be a GE now just like i did under Brown.

[TightEnd]

New prime Minster for Wednesday evening then. Will be fun to watch what Gove, Boris and the rest get in a new cabinet

[4KSuited]

Does anyone have a link to the old politics thread?  The one where various tory types were saying it was an utter disgrace that Gordon Brown was running the country without being elected?

Slight difference, though:

Blair was passing the baton to a complete nutter, on the basis of a 'gentleman's agreement' they'd made before New Labour got in Downing Street.

May has reached her position through a series of completely unpredictable events - and she's completely sane, compared to Brown

[DMorgan]

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/theresa-may-prime-minister-andrea-leadsom-policies-voting-record-human-rights-what-did-she-mean-a7130961.html

Theresa Mays voting record in parliament is the complete opposite of what she laid out in her speech this morning

Is this a legit move to the centre ground that Corbyn has spectacularly vacated or just a token gesture to attract Remain voters in a snap GE that don't want to hear that 'Brexit means Brexit'?

Actions speak louder than words so at this point I don't believe a word of it but if she wins a GE and pushes this new policy agenda I could definitely see myself voting blue in 2020/2021

[George2Loose]

Any ideas on who will get top roles? Chancellor for example. She seems to have a lot of allies. Chris Grayling ran her campaign and was for Brexit so maybe him?

[TightEnd]

Hammond and/or Osborne have to be in the top team .She needs someone who knows the EU leaders first off. Osborne maybe foreign sec?

[RickBFA]

Any ideas on who will get top roles? Chancellor for example. She seems to have a lot of allies. Chris Grayling ran her campaign and was for Brexit so maybe him?

This might sound a silly question but does it look like Osborne wants to stay Chancellor? He's been proactive (as he should be) in trying to manage the post Brexit consequences, today in US trying to influence investors etc.

[jakally]

this is excruciating, poor woman

she finishes her speech and asks for questions

https://twitter.com/conor_mcnally/status/752468677950337024/video/1

(they all had to leave to go to Leadsom)

It was clear she had been hugely coached for her speech - still not great, but much better than previous attempts I've seen.

She is very poor at interview though,and struggles when thrown off track - as this shows.
Like her as she comes across as a person, but never a leader of anything, and it's a shame she's been pushed to the front as none of the serious candidates want to risk a crushing at the hands of Corbyn.