The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[Woodsey]

May can pick on any one of a number of terrorist causes Corbyn has allied with as well. Very likely to in the run up to the next election, in fact, as powder has very much been kept dry to date.

Tories want Corbyn there as long as possible, we deffo want him there for the next general election. I see no sense in sticking the knife in until then, he'll be ditched after that anyway...

[ripple11]

Richmond by election tomorrow

"We're about to find out if Remainers feel strongly enough about Brexit to throw out Zac Goldsmith"

http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/brexit-remainers-richmond-zac-goldsmith-election-leave-europe-throw-out-a7445371.html

Go to Richmond every day....and many more Lib Dem "house signs" than Zac. Homes have been bombarded with Lib Dem literature....no doubt they will flood the area tomorrow to help get the vote out.
 Interesting to see how many labour vote tactically.
Still think Zac will hold it, personal vote etc.....but wouldn't be taking the 4/11 on offer today.

Singer Bob Geldof, an outspoken pro-EU campaigner, will join Lib Dems on the campaign trail on Wednesday afternoon.

.......its a rat trap Bob and you've been caught.....

[Sheriff Fatman]

May can pick on any one of a number of terrorist causes Corbyn has allied with as well. Very likely to in the run up to the next election, in fact, as powder has very much been kept dry to date.

Tories want Corbyn there as long as possible, we deffo want him there for the next general election. I see no sense in sticking the knife in until then, he'll be ditched after that anyway...

No, on current form, they'll probably decide that the best solution to a crushing defeat is to move further to the left again!  Expect a full-on rebranding to the Communist Party in 2020, with Corbyn re-elected as supreme being by a 99.5% mandate of the remaining party membership, most of whom aren't on the actual electoral register.

[Woodsey]

May can pick on any one of a number of terrorist causes Corbyn has allied with as well. Very likely to in the run up to the next election, in fact, as powder has very much been kept dry to date.

Tories want Corbyn there as long as possible, we deffo want him there for the next general election. I see no sense in sticking the knife in until then, he'll be ditched after that anyway...

No, on current form, they'll probably decide that the best solution to a crushing defeat is to move further to the left again!  Expect a full-on rebranding to the Communist Party in 2020, with Corbyn re-elected as supreme being by a 99.5% mandate of the remaining party membership, most of whom aren't on the actual electoral register.

True, add in a bit more talking down to people because they are wrong for good measure 

[TightEnd]

YouGov Scottish independence poll. YES 38% NO 49%

[TightEnd]

a newsnight graph showing the west falling out of love with democracy

Click to see full-size image.

[TightEnd]

Labour's Matt Damon problem

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/11/labours-matt-damon-problem/

[TightEnd]

How can Labour dodge the twin bullets of Brexit and Ukip?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/nov/30/labour-brexit-revolt-tony-blair-john-major?CMP=twt_gu

[TightEnd]

Brexiteers won’t like to admit it, but removing EU citizens was a key part of Vote Leave’s campaign

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/12/brexiteers-wont-admit-removing-eu-migrants-key-part-vote-leaves-campaign/

[Woodsey]

Brexiteers won’t like to admit it, but removing EU citizens was a key part of Vote Leave’s campaign

http://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2016/12/brexiteers-wont-admit-removing-eu-migrants-key-part-vote-leaves-campaign/

Doubt that was a majority, controlling new entries sure, but not convinced removal of people here was high on manys list.

[TightEnd]

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David Davis says UK could continue to pay into EU budgets after Brexit - http://bit.ly/2fOFY7v

[TightEnd]

first time a minister has said it publically i think

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-38168942?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_politics&ns_source=twitter&ns_linkname=news_central

[AndrewT]

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David Davis says UK could continue to pay into EU budgets after Brexit - http://bit.ly/2fOFY7v

[RED-DOG]

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David Davis says UK could continue to pay into EU budgets after Brexit - http://bit.ly/2fOFY7v

I lolled.

[rfgqqabc]

How do the British government not see a flaw in demanding a backdoor into all forms of encryption. It's not like terrorists have particularly bothered, I've read somewhere that the last few attacks just used code words. The porn bill and snoopers charter are quite worrying, so little talk of them on our major news sites. Not quite sure why. I suppose we've been illegally collecting this data for the last ten years anyway so all this does is make it legal for our security services.

https://www.google.com.do/amp/arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/03/paris-terrorist-attacks-burner-phones-not-encryption/%3Famp%3D1?client=ms-android-samsung

Not sure why the link is so messed up