The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[TightEnd]

Jeremy Corbyn's Scottish independence dilemma,

http://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2017/03/jeremy-corbyns-scottish-independence-dilemma

to be fair to him,he has had/got some rough spots with these big issues

[TightEnd]

If Scotland were independent, its deficit would be the worst in the West - meaning Irish-style austerity.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/14/nicola-sturgeon-hopes-strike-dream-slips-away/

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[TightEnd]

UKIP support is plummeting. At 9%, it's the first time they've polled in single figures for more than four years (Feb 2013)

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[TightEnd]

you pays your money,you takes your choice part 1

An exclusive thetimes/YouGov poll reveals huge opposition to Scottish independence (57% to 43%)

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[TightEnd]

you pays your money part 2

Respected Scottish Social Attitudes Survey finds support for independence higher than ever. Double the level in 2012

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[PokerBroker]

If Scotland were independent, its deficit would be the worst in the West - meaning Irish-style austerity.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/14/nicola-sturgeon-hopes-strike-dream-slips-away/

Click to see full-size image.

Nonsense, and just because it continually rinsed and repeated it means nothing.  Everyone and their granny knows that GERS isn't worth the paper it's written on.

[TightEnd]

If Scotland were independent, its deficit would be the worst in the West - meaning Irish-style austerity.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/14/nicola-sturgeon-hopes-strike-dream-slips-away/

Click to see full-size image.

Nonsense, and just because it continually rinsed and repeated it means nothing.  Everyone and their granny knows that GERS isn't worth the paper it's written on.

why is it nonsense? are the facts presented wrong?

[RickBFA]

If Scotland were independent, its deficit would be the worst in the West - meaning Irish-style austerity.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/14/nicola-sturgeon-hopes-strike-dream-slips-away/

Click to see full-size image.

Nonsense, and just because it continually rinsed and repeated it means nothing.  Everyone and their granny knows that GERS isn't worth the paper it's written on.

You should enlighten us.

Do you think an independent Scotland would be running a significant deficit?

[PokerBroker]

Have a read at this - http://wingsoverscotland.com/the-six-key-facts-about-gers/ - he's mostly a bit of a dick, but he does a good job in exposing a lot of myths. 

The most obvious thing is whoever leads an independent Scotland, will have comlete control of or budget, I'm not naieve ebough to think its all milk and honey, times will be tough until all things are in place, but I don't believe they would be as apocalyptic as some of the warnings that these "esteemed" journalists publish. 

The narrative driven by the establishment media is we would continue on the same path as the UK government.  Of course if we did we'd be in a sorry state, but we wouldn't be neary £2 trillion in debt. 

[PokerBroker]

http://wingsoverscotland.com/the-limitations-of-gers/

[PokerBroker]

If Scotland were independent, its deficit would be the worst in the West - meaning Irish-style austerity.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/14/nicola-sturgeon-hopes-strike-dream-slips-away/

Click to see full-size image.

Nonsense, and just because it continually rinsed and repeated it means nothing.  Everyone and their granny knows that GERS isn't worth the paper it's written on.

You should enlighten us.

Do you think an independent Scotland would be running a significant deficit?

Seriously you have whined like a little girl for a helluva long time about how the media always looks on Brexit as the worse thing to ever happen, and you see nothing but positive but when it comes to Scotland you seem to think the same media are guardians of the truth and that Scotland needs the UK but the UK doesn't need Europe.  #couldntmakeitup

[RickBFA]

If Scotland were independent, its deficit would be the worst in the West - meaning Irish-style austerity.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/14/nicola-sturgeon-hopes-strike-dream-slips-away/

Click to see full-size image.

Nonsense, and just because it continually rinsed and repeated it means nothing.  Everyone and their granny knows that GERS isn't worth the paper it's written on.

You should enlighten us.

Do you think an independent Scotland would be running a significant deficit?

Seriously you have whined like a little girl for a helluva long time about how the media always looks on Brexit as the worse thing to ever happen, and you see nothing but positive but when it comes to Scotland you seem to think the same media are guardians of the truth and that Scotland needs the UK but the UK doesn't need Europe.  #couldntmakeitup

I'd like a balanced debate and reporting about Brexit and Scotland.

Of course there are significant threats from Brexit.

I don't see "nothing but positive" - I would like our news reporting to be fact based where possible, rather than creating headlines from opinions from so called experts that have been at best questionable so far.

Frankly, some of your loony left wing views (like capping personal income at £150k) fall under the #couldntmakeitup hashtag.

[PokerBroker]

And as if by Magic, the Rev has a new blog up about GERS. 

Can't really argue with the points he raises. 

http://wingsoverscotland.com/gers-by-economists/

[rfgqqabc]

And as if by Magic, the Rev has a new blog up about GERS. 

Can't really argue with the points he raises. 

http://wingsoverscotland.com/gers-by-economists/

So back to the question. Do you think Scotland will run a significant deficit? Interesting stuff but didn't answer much. I suppose the answers are fairly unknowable but I don't think saying the figures aren't accurate is truly a persuasive argument in favour of independence. Its just a counter. Has anyone tried to make a "budget" or something similar?

[PokerBroker]

And as if by Magic, the Rev has a new blog up about GERS. 

Can't really argue with the points he raises. 

http://wingsoverscotland.com/gers-by-economists/

So back to the question. Do you think Scotland will run a significant deficit? Interesting stuff but didn't answer much. I suppose the answers are fairly unknowable but I don't think saying the figures aren't accurate is truly a persuasive argument in favour of independence. Its just a counter. Has anyone tried to make a "budget" or something similar?

I think it's pretty much guaranteed there would be a deficit, but through proper investment and putting the Scottish economy at the heart of decisions I'm sure we'd be running to a surplus quicker than the UK ever will be.