The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[TightEnd]

Try @montie @iainmartin @lordashcroft @danielhannan. All sensible enough without you having to veer into ukip land

Thanks, will have a look, I follow @andrew_lilico so get to see some of their tweets.

@iaindale @toadmeister Dale more pleasant than Toby Young

[Doobs]

Always amazed at how long Dianne Abbott has managed to stay in front line politics for so long.

I assume you are talking about this.

10,000 new policemen for 300,000 Pounds

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/diane-abbotts-agonising-interview-over-policy-cost/

Well worth a listen.

[Longines]

I assume you are talking about this.

10,000 new policemen for 300,000 Pounds

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/diane-abbotts-agonising-interview-over-policy-cost/

Well worth a listen.

Ouch. Staggering level of innumeracy.

[RickBFA]

I assume you are talking about this.

10,000 new policemen for 300,000 Pounds

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/diane-abbotts-agonising-interview-over-policy-cost/

Well worth a listen.

Ouch. Staggering level of innumeracy.

As a colleague of mine has just said, the Tories just need to play this interview as their Party Political Broadcast.

Nail in coffin

 

[BigAdz]

Always amazed at how long Dianne Abbott has managed to stay in front line politics for so long.

I assume you are talking about this.

10,000 new policemen for 300,000 Pounds

http://www.lbc.co.uk/radio/presenters/nick-ferrari/diane-abbotts-agonising-interview-over-policy-cost/

Well worth a listen.

Haha.

No, I had not yet heard this, but her constant avoidance of answering basic questions whenever I switch over to see her, and her dreadful retorts when she does offer an answer, beggar belief she retains a positive profile of any description

[TightEnd]

if you want to see your toes curl at the excruciating interview again......

LISTEN: Diane Abbott's sums don't add up in car crash interview over police numbers http://bit.ly/2qnyJNm

[nirvana]

this is a must read

Forbes

https://www.forbes.com/sites/francescoppola/2017/04/30/the-uk-government-is-completely-deluded-about-brexit/#167fcd364f04

(i know Brexit views are permanently fixed. For Leavers failure shows the EU was broken all along. For Remainers nothing looks like success.)

It's all just irrelevant piffle isn't it. Pretty obviously the EU and the UK will agree what they agree and we'll know what that is in a couple of years. The rest is just 2 kids barging into each other rather than one smashing the other in the nose.

[Sheriff Fatman]

if you want to see your toes curl at the excruciating interview again......

LISTEN: Diane Abbott's sums don't add up in car crash interview over police numbers http://bit.ly/2qnyJNm

It's infinitely worse to listen to it than just to listen to the transcript.  My expectations were low, but not low enough, it seems.

[TightEnd]

Osborne's debut editorial re Brexit: "If you ask for a blank cheque, don’t be surprised if later it bounces"

http://www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/evening-standard-comment-a-paper-committed-to-freedom-and-optimism-a3528416.html …

[TightEnd]

Latest ICM

Conservatives: 47% (down 1 from ICM last week)
Labour: 28% (up 1)
Lib Dems: 8% (down 2)
Ukip: 8% (up 1)
Greens: 4% (up 1)

Theresa May is running a: Good campaign: 41% Bad campaign: 22%
Jeremy Corbyn: Good campaign: 21% Bad campaign: 40%

(via @ICMResearch)

perhaps i follow it too closely, but i cannot stand the May campaign (speaking in empty halls,no questions from the press,robotic soundbites etc). I suppose "man on the street" couldn't give a toss thoughordoesn't even notice/care, or minds are made up?

[Doobs]

Latest ICM

Conservatives: 47% (down 1 from ICM last week)
Labour: 28% (up 1)
Lib Dems: 8% (down 2)
Ukip: 8% (up 1)
Greens: 4% (up 1)

Theresa May is running a: Good campaign: 41% Bad campaign: 22%
Jeremy Corbyn: Good campaign: 21% Bad campaign: 40%

(via @ICMResearch)

perhaps i follow it too closely, but i cannot stand the May campaign (speaking in empty halls,no questions from the press,robotic soundbites etc). I suppose "man on the street" couldn't give a toss thoughordoesn't even notice/care, or minds are made up?

It is a strong and stable campaign. 

Theoretical question.  Which is better?  Making a bunch of promises you can't keep or making none at all and just coming up with vacuous nonsense.

[Marky147]

Latest ICM

Conservatives: 47% (down 1 from ICM last week)
Labour: 28% (up 1)
Lib Dems: 8% (down 2)
Ukip: 8% (up 1)
Greens: 4% (up 1)

Theresa May is running a: Good campaign: 41% Bad campaign: 22%
Jeremy Corbyn: Good campaign: 21% Bad campaign: 40%

(via @ICMResearch)

perhaps i follow it too closely, but i cannot stand the May campaign (speaking in empty halls,no questions from the press,robotic soundbites etc). I suppose "man on the street" couldn't give a toss thoughordoesn't even notice/care, or minds are made up?

It is a strong and stable campaign. 

Theoretical question.  Which is better?  Making a bunch of promises you can't keep or making none at all and just coming up with vacuous nonsense.

Worked out ok for the donald, and he did both.

[TightEnd]

may is making defensive visits to Tory-held W Country seats eg cornwall today, but campaigning deep into Labour territory a lot of the time

triangles = leader visits this campaign, blue for may, red corbyn

crosses are seats next to where they have been

Click to see full-size image.

[ripple11]

Any thoughts on the Richmond Park constituency?

Most interesting betting heat of the whole election.

what are you thinking?

Zak's back. still though a very remain area, why wouldn't the lib dems win again?

5/6 for Libdems to hold. Interestingly Vince Cable next door is 1/2 to win it back for Libdems.

Not sure it was the wisest move to have Zac back.  The Libdem must have a great chance of holding., As Tighty says remain runs though the blood here!

[ripple11]

Latest ICM

Conservatives: 47% (down 1 from ICM last week)
Labour: 28% (up 1)
Lib Dems: 8% (down 2)
Ukip: 8% (up 1)
Greens: 4% (up 1)

Theresa May is running a: Good campaign: 41% Bad campaign: 22%
Jeremy Corbyn: Good campaign: 21% Bad campaign: 40%

(via @ICMResearch)

perhaps i follow it too closely, but i cannot stand the May campaign (speaking in empty halls,no questions from the press,robotic soundbites etc). I suppose "man on the street" couldn't give a toss thoughordoesn't even notice/care, or minds are made up?

It is a strong and stable campaign. 

Theoretical question.  Which is better?  Making a bunch of promises you can't keep or making none at all and just coming up with vacuous nonsense.

Worked out ok for the donald, and he did both.