The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[TightEnd]

Sir Micheal Rawlins - head of the Medicines and Healthcare Products Regulatory Agency was quoted in the Pharmaceutical Journal and picked up by Press Association.

When the regulator says there is an insulin supply chain problem under no deal

No insulin is made in the UK. It can't be by March.

What are the government going to do?

a friend of a friend has a T1 diabetic son. Went to doctor to try to stockpile, doctor only allowed to prescribe a month out

[TightEnd]

This is not coming from Remainers. This is not project fear. Pro-Brexit Ministers are drawing up blueprints for the army to deliver food, fuel and medicine if we leave the EU with no deal.

We have a duty to prevent this self-immolation don't we?

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/army-on-standby-for-no-deal-brexit-emergency-dz3359lrf

[TightEnd]

Barnier is assuming that, ultimately, when pushed Britain will stay in a customs union with the EU. But this might not be right. May doesn’t want to and even if she did, she couldn’t survive going for this option

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/6883614/james-forsyth-barnier-irish-border-customs-union-assumption/

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Ex-Trump strategist Bannon targets Britain in anti-EU campaign | Reuters

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-europe-politics-bannon/ex-trump-strategist-bannon-targets-britain-in-anti-eu-campaign-idUSKBN1KH260

[TightEnd]

all continues to go well with planning


Supermarkets criticise food stockpiling suggestion in event of 'no deal' Brexit
The government's suggestion stores should stockpile food in the event of a "no deal" Brexit has been slammed as "not practical".

https://news.sky.com/story/supermarkets-criticise-food-stockpiling-suggestion-in-event-of-no-deal-brexit-11451049

[TightEnd]

On this graph - I'm constantly surprised when researching Brexit how close the UK-Netherlands relationship is. From trade, to political climate, to lobbying for aviation liberalisation, they always come up.

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Theresa May’s attempt to bypass Brussels in Brexit talks fails as member states line up to back official EU position

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/brexit-talks-theresa-may-brussels-eu-member-states-barnier-chequers-custom-plan-a8466066.html …

Barnier made it clear his mandate was robust and HMG has always underestimated the solidarity and cohesion of the EU faced with a secessionist country. I am amazed how long this UK EU miscalculation has persisted in the face of no evidence to support it to date.

[TightEnd]

the brilliant Marina Hyde

some great lines in this

"By the time the EU’s chief Brexit negotiator got to the bit where he explained the Chequers deal was up merde creek, Raab was wearing that specific facial expression that translates as: never mind our money and borders, I urgently need to take back control of my sphincter."

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/27/brexit-eu-may-raab-johnson-food-barnier?CMP=share_btn_tw

[TightEnd]

"As Brexit looms, stockpiling food seems the only sensible response"

much derided by those unprepared and unable to accept what is right in front of their faces,you might have heard it here first

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/28/brexit-stockpiling-food-fear-government-feed?CMP=twt_gu

[TightEnd]

Mission impossible?

the Times sets out the key decisions and dates in the most important nine months for Britain in living memory

http://bit.ly/2va9UEZ

[TightEnd]

May very badly needs some device, event or crisis to shift the balance of forces at Westminster, says this.

 If not a second vote, then what?

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/staggers/2018/07/michel-barnier-rules-out-chequers-deal-what-s-next-theresa-may-s-brexit

[TightEnd]

 its a small price to pay for the principal of political independence and the ability to secure our borders.

sorry, but i'd vote leave again in an instant.

i am utterly baffled by this. a small price to pay? 2.8m lost jobs, 8% off GDP, food shortages, health risks is a small price to pay for some notional measure of independence?

you'd vote leave again in an instant?

I know there is little sign of leavers changing their minds but I am just baffled, try as hard as i can to understand why some notional measures of political independence (in a globalised world political independence is a non sequitur anyway) and control over borders (where as a result red tape and regulations are going to prevent much crossing anyway) aremoreimportant than the real world consequences of disentangling intertwined economies partnerships between which are essential for them to function

I try to get it, but am staggered.

[neeko]

On this graph - I'm constantly surprised when researching Brexit how close the UK-Netherlands relationship is. From trade, to political climate, to lobbying for aviation liberalisation, they always come up.

Isn’t this just Rotterdam port though, ships from the rest of the world drop everything there and then some of this cargo gets transhipped to the UK the rest going on across Europe.

[TightEnd]

The final fact is that you could gather together all the nonsense from all the simpletons and it would be a speck of irrelevance on the illogical scale when compared to the advice to stockpile tinned fruit.

really? the Brexiters in government are now planning to stockpile food and still its illogical? the Medical regulator is warning about insulin and its still illogical? the government is having to move to get supplies of blood secured and its still illogical?

do you ever read the articles i link to?

please read the Ian Dunt food supply article provided in here thursday or friday.

link again to make it easy http://www.politics.co.uk/blogs/2018/07/27/this-is-what-no-deal-brexit-actually-looks-like

described as "probably the seminal article on the lunacy of Brexit"

a few weeks ago you were trying to claim that this would be blue sunlit uplands for the british farming industry. If it wasn't so sad it would be hilarious

[TightEnd]

On this graph - I'm constantly surprised when researching Brexit how close the UK-Netherlands relationship is. From trade, to political climate, to lobbying for aviation liberalisation, they always come up.

Isn’t this just Rotterdam port though, ships from the rest of the world drop everything there and then some of this cargo gets transhipped to the UK the rest going on across Europe.

good point. so not the real "point of origin"