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Question: How will you vote on December 12th 2019
Conservative - 19 (33.9%)
Labour - 12 (21.4%)
SNP - 2 (3.6%)
Lib Dem - 8 (14.3%)
Brexit - 1 (1.8%)
Green - 6 (10.7%)
Other - 2 (3.6%)
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« Reply #14340 on: October 06, 2018, 01:26:34 PM »

Unilever scrap plans to move to Rotterdam, shareholders prefer sticking with London and ftse 100 inclusion

It might be against the (crazy) law.

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/05/shareholderinterest.asp

Same for any Ltd company that stays in Brexit Britain? I’m not a lawyer, looks straightforward though, burden of proof not easy I guess.
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« Reply #14341 on: October 06, 2018, 01:31:44 PM »

Unilever scrap plans to move to Rotterdam, shareholders prefer sticking with London and ftse 100 inclusion

It might be against the (crazy) law.

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/05/shareholderinterest.asp

Same for any Ltd company that stays in Brexit Britain? I’m not a lawyer, looks straightforward though, burden of proof not easy I guess.

This is better:

https://uk.practicallaw.thomsonreuters.com/5-613-3685?transitionType=Default&contextData=(sc.Default)&firstPage=true&comp=pluk&bhcp=1
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« Reply #14342 on: October 06, 2018, 06:34:09 PM »

The majority of the country want controlled immigration

Freedom of movement is a red line for EU

So without EU reform Leaving was inevitable. There is no Remain.

Remain lamenting financials and choice on the shelves has only served to harden the EU stance and undermine us

Very boring, very unproductive, very French

The booze ban in the run up to the 10k is not going well, apologies to DungB, I’ll still dip under 38 mins though, so I’m OK with it. The problem with controlling immigration is that it directly hurts our economy. If the Conservative Party have limited migration it’s only by making (Great) Britain a shit place to live.   Hilarious to use being French as an insult, it’s the greatest country in the world imo (USA /2nd)

This argument is not really sustainable.

The US and Australian economies, not to mention many of the Asian economies are not damaged by controlling immigration.

In any case, there will literally be no change to immigration numbers directly as a result of changes to immigration policy post Brexit. To the disappointment, I'm sure, of many Brexit voters, the market and the economy will determine what numbers of people still come to settle in the UK. The only way that numbers will reduce is if Brexit does cause cataclysmic damage to the economy and jobs.

Good shout, it’s a subject where meaningful data is hard to come by. I’m not really sure how we judge Aus/US though. What are we comparing against? Or are we just saying they tightened the rules and things went OK?

I'd say both countries have always had fairly tight rules - not easy for a Brit to settle in either of these countries

If you’re right, I don’t see how we say if it’s positive or not. My best mate moved to the Sydney suburbs with his gf, he came home after 6 months convinced that the locals hated foreigners. The discussion about immigration is hypothetical, don’t tell the ‘flat earthers’ though, it’s all they’ve got.

Remind me what the Brexit positive’s are, I’ve forgotten.


If we told you that it would make everyone a millionaire, I'm sure you would still ask the same question.

Or tell us how much better off Labour would have made us.... thumbs up
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« Reply #14343 on: October 06, 2018, 06:51:22 PM »

You’ve probably noticed already, I have plenty of time atm. Girlfriend gone, next girlfriend is ‘long game’, wish me luck :-). I’m going to take a while to dismantle the argument of the three imbecilic trolls (sorry Adz, seems incredible that you’re on the imbecilic troll list, you are though). Apologies to anyone that becomes collateral damage. I’ll start tomorrow.
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« Reply #14344 on: October 06, 2018, 07:08:46 PM »

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« Reply #14345 on: October 06, 2018, 07:10:22 PM »

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ETqOvBKnKdk
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« Reply #14346 on: October 06, 2018, 07:17:25 PM »


My grandparents died before I knew them, this is the ultimate ‘fantasy’ grandad though.
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« Reply #14347 on: October 06, 2018, 07:32:28 PM »


My grandparents died before I knew them, this is the ultimate ‘fantasy’ grandad though.

It’s incredible that Conservativism survived Thatcher, she was a disgrace and it’s time for decent people to stand up and say so. Still Mantis knows what reality is, look at the dictionary:-)
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« Reply #14348 on: October 06, 2018, 07:51:52 PM »

The majority of the country want controlled immigration

Freedom of movement is a red line for EU

So without EU reform Leaving was inevitable. There is no Remain.

Remain lamenting financials and choice on the shelves has only served to harden the EU stance and undermine us

Very boring, very unproductive, very French

The booze ban in the run up to the 10k is not going well, apologies to DungB, I’ll still dip under 38 mins though, so I’m OK with it. The problem with controlling immigration is that it directly hurts our economy. If the Conservative Party have limited migration it’s only by making (Great) Britain a shit place to live.   Hilarious to use being French as an insult, it’s the greatest country in the world imo (USA /2nd)

This argument is not really sustainable.

The US and Australian economies, not to mention many of the Asian economies are not damaged by controlling immigration.

In any case, there will literally be no change to immigration numbers directly as a result of changes to immigration policy post Brexit. To the disappointment, I'm sure, of many Brexit voters, the market and the economy will determine what numbers of people still come to settle in the UK. The only way that numbers will reduce is if Brexit does cause cataclysmic damage to the economy and jobs.

Good shout, it’s a subject where meaningful data is hard to come by. I’m not really sure how we judge Aus/US though. What are we comparing against? Or are we just saying they tightened the rules and things went OK?

I'd say both countries have always had fairly tight rules - not easy for a Brit to settle in either of these countries

If you’re right, I don’t see how we say if it’s positive or not. My best mate moved to the Sydney suburbs with his gf, he came home after 6 months convinced that the locals hated foreigners. The discussion about immigration is hypothetical, don’t tell the ‘flat earthers’ though, it’s all they’ve got.

Remind me what the Brexit positive’s are, I’ve forgotten.


If we told you that it would make everyone a millionaire, I'm sure you would still ask the same question.

Or tell us how much better off Labour would have made us.... thumbs up

It actually hurts that someone so thick does OK in business.

Sentence 1: Total nonsense, maybe try again? Maybe accept you’re a fucking idiot?

Sentence 2: It’s not about us, it’s about everyone and this government has let everyone down.

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« Reply #14349 on: October 06, 2018, 08:14:14 PM »

The majority of the country want controlled immigration

Freedom of movement is a red line for EU

So without EU reform Leaving was inevitable. There is no Remain.

Remain lamenting financials and choice on the shelves has only served to harden the EU stance and undermine us

Very boring, very unproductive, very French

The booze ban in the run up to the 10k is not going well, apologies to DungB, I’ll still dip under 38 mins though, so I’m OK with it. The problem with controlling immigration is that it directly hurts our economy. If the Conservative Party have limited migration it’s only by making (Great) Britain a shit place to live.   Hilarious to use being French as an insult, it’s the greatest country in the world imo (USA /2nd)

This argument is not really sustainable.

The US and Australian economies, not to mention many of the Asian economies are not damaged by controlling immigration.

In any case, there will literally be no change to immigration numbers directly as a result of changes to immigration policy post Brexit. To the disappointment, I'm sure, of many Brexit voters, the market and the economy will determine what numbers of people still come to settle in the UK. The only way that numbers will reduce is if Brexit does cause cataclysmic damage to the economy and jobs.

Good shout, it’s a subject where meaningful data is hard to come by. I’m not really sure how we judge Aus/US though. What are we comparing against? Or are we just saying they tightened the rules and things went OK?

I'd say both countries have always had fairly tight rules - not easy for a Brit to settle in either of these countries

If you’re right, I don’t see how we say if it’s positive or not. My best mate moved to the Sydney suburbs with his gf, he came home after 6 months convinced that the locals hated foreigners. The discussion about immigration is hypothetical, don’t tell the ‘flat earthers’ though, it’s all they’ve got.

Remind me what the Brexit positive’s are, I’ve forgotten.


If we told you that it would make everyone a millionaire, I'm sure you would still ask the same question.

Or tell us how much better off Labour would have made us.... thumbs up

It actually hurts that someone so thick does OK in business.

Sentence 1: Total nonsense, maybe try again? Maybe accept you’re a fucking idiot?

Sentence 2: It’s not about us, it’s about everyone and this government has let everyone down.

 
Just to revisit sentence 1 once more. What a fucking clown! Read it again, it’s the worst sentence I’ve ever seen, it couldn’t be dumber.
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« Reply #14350 on: October 06, 2018, 08:17:10 PM »

Thatcher so far ahead of Corbyn they’re in different time zones...
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« Reply #14351 on: October 06, 2018, 08:20:09 PM »

I love reading this thread. A must check every day.

Great to read different views and different contexts.

The shouty stuff and name calling is unedifying, though. No one has ever persuaded anyone by being louder or more offensive.

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« Reply #14352 on: October 06, 2018, 08:21:55 PM »

Thatcher so far ahead of Corbyn they’re in different time zones...

Ahead in your head is not a good place to be. Remember your confusion about ‘reality’? It was only yesterday,
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« Reply #14353 on: October 06, 2018, 08:22:28 PM »

The majority of the country want controlled immigration

Freedom of movement is a red line for EU

So without EU reform Leaving was inevitable. There is no Remain.

Remain lamenting financials and choice on the shelves has only served to harden the EU stance and undermine us

Very boring, very unproductive, very French

The booze ban in the run up to the 10k is not going well, apologies to DungB, I’ll still dip under 38 mins though, so I’m OK with it. The problem with controlling immigration is that it directly hurts our economy. If the Conservative Party have limited migration it’s only by making (Great) Britain a shit place to live.   Hilarious to use being French as an insult, it’s the greatest country in the world imo (USA /2nd)

This argument is not really sustainable.

The US and Australian economies, not to mention many of the Asian economies are not damaged by controlling immigration.

In any case, there will literally be no change to immigration numbers directly as a result of changes to immigration policy post Brexit. To the disappointment, I'm sure, of many Brexit voters, the market and the economy will determine what numbers of people still come to settle in the UK. The only way that numbers will reduce is if Brexit does cause cataclysmic damage to the economy and jobs.

Good shout, it’s a subject where meaningful data is hard to come by. I’m not really sure how we judge Aus/US though. What are we comparing against? Or are we just saying they tightened the rules and things went OK?

I'd say both countries have always had fairly tight rules - not easy for a Brit to settle in either of these countries

If you’re right, I don’t see how we say if it’s positive or not. My best mate moved to the Sydney suburbs with his gf, he came home after 6 months convinced that the locals hated foreigners. The discussion about immigration is hypothetical, don’t tell the ‘flat earthers’ though, it’s all they’ve got.

Remind me what the Brexit positive’s are, I’ve forgotten.


If we told you that it would make everyone a millionaire, I'm sure you would still ask the same question.

Or tell us how much better off Labour would have made us.... thumbs up

It actually hurts that someone so thick does OK in business.

Sentence 1: Total nonsense, maybe try again? Maybe accept you’re a fucking idiot?

Sentence 2: It’s not about us, it’s about everyone and this government has let everyone down.

 
Just to revisit sentence 1 once more. What a fucking clown! Read it again, it’s the worst sentence I’ve ever seen, it couldn’t be dumber.

If you can't take apart their arguments without resorting to all this childish name calling, then that reflects pretty badly on you.   Go get a cup of tea and listen to something calming for a bit.  
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« Reply #14354 on: October 06, 2018, 08:29:29 PM »

The majority of the country want controlled immigration

Freedom of movement is a red line for EU

So without EU reform Leaving was inevitable. There is no Remain.

Remain lamenting financials and choice on the shelves has only served to harden the EU stance and undermine us

Very boring, very unproductive, very French

The booze ban in the run up to the 10k is not going well, apologies to DungB, I’ll still dip under 38 mins though, so I’m OK with it. The problem with controlling immigration is that it directly hurts our economy. If the Conservative Party have limited migration it’s only by making (Great) Britain a shit place to live.   Hilarious to use being French as an insult, it’s the greatest country in the world imo (USA /2nd)

This argument is not really sustainable.

The US and Australian economies, not to mention many of the Asian economies are not damaged by controlling immigration.

In any case, there will literally be no change to immigration numbers directly as a result of changes to immigration policy post Brexit. To the disappointment, I'm sure, of many Brexit voters, the market and the economy will determine what numbers of people still come to settle in the UK. The only way that numbers will reduce is if Brexit does cause cataclysmic damage to the economy and jobs.

Good shout, it’s a subject where meaningful data is hard to come by. I’m not really sure how we judge Aus/US though. What are we comparing against? Or are we just saying they tightened the rules and things went OK?

I'd say both countries have always had fairly tight rules - not easy for a Brit to settle in either of these countries

If you’re right, I don’t see how we say if it’s positive or not. My best mate moved to the Sydney suburbs with his gf, he came home after 6 months convinced that the locals hated foreigners. The discussion about immigration is hypothetical, don’t tell the ‘flat earthers’ though, it’s all they’ve got.

Remind me what the Brexit positive’s are, I’ve forgotten.


If we told you that it would make everyone a millionaire, I'm sure you would still ask the same question.

Or tell us how much better off Labour would have made us.... thumbs up

It actually hurts that someone so thick does OK in business.

Sentence 1: Total nonsense, maybe try again? Maybe accept you’re a fucking idiot?

Sentence 2: It’s not about us, it’s about everyone and this government has let everyone down.

 
Just to revisit sentence 1 once more. What a fucking clown! Read it again, it’s the worst sentence I’ve ever seen, it couldn’t be dumber.

If you can't take apart their arguments without resorting to all this childish name calling, then that reflects pretty badly on you.   Go get a cup of tea and listen to something calming for a bit.  


Yep, good call, thanks (Tal as well)
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