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Question: How will you vote on December 12th 2019
Conservative - 19 (33.9%)
Labour - 12 (21.4%)
SNP - 2 (3.6%)
Lib Dem - 8 (14.3%)
Brexit - 1 (1.8%)
Green - 6 (10.7%)
Other - 2 (3.6%)
Spoil - 0 (0%)
Not voting - 6 (10.7%)
Total Voters: 55

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« Reply #17430 on: May 26, 2019, 01:08:26 PM »

Conceptually. It's quite crazy to think the tory membership of 100k or so gets to decide if we end up with a no deal Premier to lead us to the promised land
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« Reply #17431 on: May 26, 2019, 01:14:52 PM »

Conceptually. It's quite crazy to think the tory membership of 100k or so gets to decide if we end up with a no deal Premier to lead us to the promised land

0.27% of the population

Average age 58!
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« Reply #17432 on: May 26, 2019, 01:27:26 PM »

Philip Hammond warns Tory leadership hopefuls they will not 'survive' a no-deal Brexit

just not as simple as the leavers think to get a no deal PM and sail to October IF you are prepared to accept remain MPs on the government benches would bring it all down rather than accept no deal. That's the impact of losing a parliamentary majority

https://www.politicshome.com/news/uk/political-parties/conservative-party/boris-johnson/news/104157/philip-hammond-warns-tory
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« Reply #17433 on: May 26, 2019, 01:32:37 PM »

right back for the election results tomorrow

who wants to guess the Brexit Party vote share?

closest wins a banana


i will start,37%
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« Reply #17434 on: May 26, 2019, 01:54:41 PM »

41%
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« Reply #17435 on: May 26, 2019, 02:39:28 PM »

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« Reply #17436 on: May 26, 2019, 02:58:43 PM »

right back for the election results tomorrow

who wants to guess the Brexit Party vote share?

closest wins a banana


i will start,37%

I will go for 34.5% - if I win I want my prize to be one of the proper bendy British bananas and not one of those straight Brussels EU monstrosities.
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« Reply #17437 on: May 26, 2019, 03:38:20 PM »

Conservative leadership elections are a graveyard for early favourites - as far as I can tell the early favourite has never won (discounting 1989, when Thatcher received a token challenge and 1995, when Major quit and restood to smoke out dissenters)

1965 - Reginald Maudling (beaten by Ted Heath)
1975 - Ted Heath (Thatcher)
1990 - Michael Heseltine (John Major)
1997 - Ken Clarke (William Hague)
2001 - Michael Portillo (Iain Duncan Smith!)
2005 - David Davis (David Cameron)
2016 - Boris Johnson (Theresa May)
2019 - Boris Johnson (?)

Boris's price has gone for a little walk last couple of days - he was matched at under 1.8 on Betfair but is now nearly 3. The mover in that time is Michael Gove (inventor of the Boris Johnson knife rack three years ago).

I assume that, right now, polls are being done with the Tory membership - the last one from Yougov (which was done before May resigned) had Boris at 39%, but everyone else added together was 54%.
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« Reply #17438 on: May 26, 2019, 03:44:28 PM »

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/26/heidi-allen-says-change-uk-could-merge-with-liberal-democrats

If you're wondering what that aroma is, it's the smell of a goose that is well and truly cooked.
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« Reply #17439 on: May 26, 2019, 04:52:26 PM »

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/may/26/heidi-allen-says-change-uk-could-merge-with-liberal-democrats

If you're wondering what that aroma is, it's the smell of a goose that is well and truly cooked.

Such a deluded group, incredibly feeble effort
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« Reply #17440 on: May 26, 2019, 05:23:48 PM »

right back for the election results tomorrow

who wants to guess the Brexit Party vote share?

closest wins a banana


i will start,37%

32%.  Suspect that remain turnout was relatively higher than the leave one, so they’ll be towards the lower end of expectations.

Wouldn’t be surprised to see Lib Dems 2nd overall in vote share.
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« Reply #17441 on: May 26, 2019, 05:27:16 PM »

Conservative leadership elections are a graveyard for early favourites - as far as I can tell the early favourite has never won (discounting 1989, when Thatcher received a token challenge and 1995, when Major quit and restood to smoke out dissenters)

1965 - Reginald Maudling (beaten by Ted Heath)
1975 - Ted Heath (Thatcher)
1990 - Michael Heseltine (John Major)
1997 - Ken Clarke (William Hague)
2001 - Michael Portillo (Iain Duncan Smith!)
2005 - David Davis (David Cameron)
2016 - Boris Johnson (Theresa May)
2019 - Boris Johnson (?)

Boris's price has gone for a little walk last couple of days - he was matched at under 1.8 on Betfair but is now nearly 3. The mover in that time is Michael Gove (inventor of the Boris Johnson knife rack three years ago).

I assume that, right now, polls are being done with the Tory membership - the last one from Yougov (which was done before May resigned) had Boris at 39%, but everyone else added together was 54%.

I know a lot of people cannot stand Gove but he is a very capable, smart politician whereas Boris is well, just Boris. I think he’s respected in the Tory membership and by most Tory MP’s too.

Had a small bet on him at 10/1 a couple of days ago.
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« Reply #17442 on: May 26, 2019, 06:11:24 PM »

right back for the election results tomorrow

who wants to guess the Brexit Party vote share?

closest wins a banana


i will start,37%

I will go for 34.5% - if I win I want my prize to be one of the proper bendy British bananas and not one of those straight Brussels EU monstrosities.

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« Reply #17443 on: May 26, 2019, 06:17:05 PM »

Go for 36%

Any shape is fine.

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« Reply #17444 on: May 26, 2019, 06:23:05 PM »

for the record

none of the above is presented as propaganda, brainwashing or one sided nor me trying to steamroller anyone

Its what i have seen and bookmarked over the last couple of days that i find interesting,amusing or enlightening

there is some good journalism around. There are not, three years on, many articles on the Leave side but it is what it is. Experts and the meeja innit.

All of it adds to a thread that has been running for four tumultous years (and it ain't finished yet) over 1163 pages and 713k views


Anyone is free to put up their own finds, disagree with the articles or quotes or whatever.

Peace.

Agree with the old man , love my politics and you give us lots to delve in to.

Thanks very much for your contributions .

Superb coverage Tighty , thanks.
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