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Question: How will you vote on December 12th 2019
Conservative - 19 (33.9%)
Labour - 12 (21.4%)
SNP - 2 (3.6%)
Lib Dem - 8 (14.3%)
Brexit - 1 (1.8%)
Green - 6 (10.7%)
Other - 2 (3.6%)
Spoil - 0 (0%)
Not voting - 6 (10.7%)
Total Voters: 55

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« Reply #19710 on: August 13, 2019, 09:24:46 AM »

Lol Wiki is always so accurate

Being so very desperate to prove nothing remotely positive is possible is all very hilarious

3 of my mates have Wiki pages, all made up by others we know. Bar their name, not a single fact on them...... Grin

The Encyclopedia Britannica and the Encyclopedia Americana (to take 2 examples) contain errors - it doesn't mean that every fact or every entry in them is wrong.

People just believing stuff they read is a failure of critical analysis skills whether they're reading the Sun, The Times, The Encyclopedia Britannica or a Wikipedia article - the more reliable the sources and the more multiple the sources (and that the sources are stated) leads to the more reliable that particular outlet being as evidence one way or another.
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« Reply #19711 on: August 13, 2019, 09:44:21 AM »

Analysis of Irish trade tells us UK & US are the big two

Remain have spent so long obsessing about the oblivion that awaits UK citizens Ireland has been forgotten

When Ireland cannot trade with UK & trade with US diminishes the pain will be a very real fact. No freedom of movement, increased violence, huge disruption, economic catastrophe.

So I suggest Remain take some of that Armageddon rhetoric and apply it to Irish lives. Cos posting Wiki pages saying 95% of Ireland fist pump EU is very ridiculous.
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« Reply #19712 on: August 13, 2019, 09:54:35 AM »


When Ireland cannot trade with UK & trade with US diminishes the pain will be a very real fact. No freedom of movement

I'm fairly sure IE/UK freedom of movement is remaining after Brexit, the Common Travel Area is staying.
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« Reply #19713 on: August 13, 2019, 09:54:53 AM »

Analysis of Irish trade tells us UK & US are the big two

Remain have spent so long obsessing about the oblivion that awaits UK citizens Ireland has been forgotten

When Ireland cannot trade with UK & trade with US diminishes the pain will be a very real fact. No freedom of movement, increased violence, huge disruption, economic catastrophe.

So I suggest Remain take some of that Armageddon rhetoric and apply it to Irish lives. Cos posting Wiki pages saying 95% of Ireland fist pump EU is very ridiculous.

Do you read this nonsense somewhere (would be genuinely interesting to know where if you do) or just make it up yourself?
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« Reply #19714 on: August 13, 2019, 10:26:17 AM »

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"Boris Johnson believes EU will do a new Brexit deal, but only at the last minute. Otherwise, “Ireland is f*****d”, says a Cabinet minister."

https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/brexit/9709116/boris-johnson-eu-cave-in-ireland-no-deal/
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« Reply #19715 on: August 13, 2019, 10:26:55 AM »

Might show some domestic audiences that the UK is serious about Brexit. It shows every other country how fundamentally unserious this Government is to voluntarily not attend meetings which may be influential.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/08/12/uk-officials-pull-eu-meetings-show-britain-serious-brexit/
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« Reply #19716 on: August 13, 2019, 10:27:53 AM »

In the event of a no-deal Brexit, Boris Johnson is reportedly planning to buy almost the entirety of Wales’s lambs

One of the oddest parts of no deal, baa none

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/brexit/2019/08/disastrous-outcome-why-experts-think-food-shortages-are-coming-no-deal

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« Reply #19717 on: August 13, 2019, 10:34:55 AM »

It's perhaps a subtle distinction, but it seems to me that the remainers argue against Brexit and the Brexiteers argue against the remainers.
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« Reply #19718 on: August 13, 2019, 10:55:16 AM »

Latest ONS data on pay was released this morning. Earnings growth has continued to strengthen over the past few months: average real earnings are 1.9% higher than this time last year.
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« Reply #19719 on: August 13, 2019, 10:55:48 AM »

However, the recent strength in pay growth is yet to make up for the poor performance since the financial crisis. Real pay is still £4 lower a week on average than pre-crisis peak.
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« Reply #19720 on: August 13, 2019, 10:56:29 AM »

Looking ahead, too, pay prospects are far less rosy. Productivity, the long-term driver of pay, fell by 0.6% in the three months to June - the fourth consecutive quarter-on-quarter fall.
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« Reply #19721 on: August 13, 2019, 03:17:06 PM »

In the event of a no-deal Brexit, Boris Johnson is reportedly planning to buy almost the entirety of Wales’s lambs

One of the oddest parts of no deal, baa none

https://www.newstatesman.com/politics/brexit/2019/08/disastrous-outcome-why-experts-think-food-shortages-are-coming-no-deal



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« Reply #19722 on: August 14, 2019, 03:05:14 AM »

I wonder when and how many times will Jeremy Corbyn have to press the NC button before Halloween? By the looks of the media coverage it looks like it will have to be straight away?

Will he get it through? I think so. Just.
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« Reply #19723 on: August 14, 2019, 09:26:36 AM »

https://www.theconstructionindex.co.uk/news/view/balfour-beatty-beats-brexit-uncertainty

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« Reply #19724 on: August 14, 2019, 10:00:26 AM »

It's time for the author of the referendum to explain that respecting its outcome doesn’t have to mean disrespecting the fundamental importance of parliament, says James Kirkup

(link: https://blogs.spectator.co.uk/2019/08/its-time-david-cameron-returned-to-fix-his-brexit-mess/)
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