The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[nirvana]

Meanwhile Finkelstein in the times on On people who opposed any deal, hoping to stop Brexit:

 http://thetimes.co.uk/article/60119be2-bddf-11e9-8b63-a58ca55a4a3b

Sums up why my real distaste is reserved for the vocal remainers way, way, way ahead of the ERG tin hat brigade

[RickBFA]

Meanwhile Finkelstein in the times on On people who opposed any deal, hoping to stop Brexit:

 http://thetimes.co.uk/article/60119be2-bddf-11e9-8b63-a58ca55a4a3b

Sums up why my real distaste is reserved for the vocal remainers way, way, way ahead of the ERG tin hat brigade

Tend to agree. Clowns vote down a deal time and time again, which whilst wasn’t perfect, did get us out in a fashion, only potentially to end up with something much worse.

And they still don’t realise it.

The MPs voting against any Brexit deal are living in a bubble that is nothing like the real world. Well played guys. Fucking idiotic.

[MANTIS01]

The leaked paper is the first evidence that Germany may be preparing to let Britain walk away with No Deal rather than back down to Boris Johnson’s demand to drop the Irish backstop

(playing Boris at his own expectations management/PR game)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/08/16/germany-expects-no-deal-will-not-renegotiate-says-leaked-briefing/

Yep the German press have ‘leaked’ a German government report that they won’t negotiate and are cool with No Deal

More leaks than a Welsh sieve at present imo

[TightEnd]

The details of Operation Yellowhammer are horrifying - we are not remotely ready for a no deal Brexit

Operation Chaos: Whitehall’s secret no‑deal plan leaked

https://t.co/5EU0iWFHWK

[kukushkin88]

The details of Operation Yellowhammer are horrifying - we are not remotely ready for a no deal Brexit

Operation Chaos: Whitehall’s secret no‑deal plan leaked

https://t.co/5EU0iWFHWK

Important qualifier that these are considered the most likely eventualities, not the worst case.

[MANTIS01]

Think EU allowing 282 fishing vessels to illegally enter UK waters from day 1 pretty much sums up the respect level that turned me right off

The EU. It does what it wants.

[Doobs]

Think EU allowing 282 fishing vessels to illegally enter UK waters from day 1 pretty much sums up the respect level that turned me right off

The EU. It does what it wants.

snigger

[TightEnd]

Lol

Spare some sympathy for the DexEU junior staffer who is going to find out Monday morning they have to produce a No-Deal analysis for public consumption that simultaneously proves there's nothing to be concerned about and that the EU should immediately surrender unconditionally.

[MANTIS01]

You think the analysis should demonstrate there’s nothing to be concerned about?

More importantly if EU doesn’t recognise international borders afterwards it looks the Irish problem is gonna be easy to solve, crack on as before

[nirvana]

Some bits are hard to unpick - 'severe extended delays' seems to only apply to medicines compared to 'up to 85% of lorries delayed for 2 1/2 days'.

I expect the UK customs people have been told to clamp down on incoming medicines especially

[ripple11]

Meanwhile Finkelstein in the times on On people who opposed any deal, hoping to stop Brexit:

 http://thetimes.co.uk/article/60119be2-bddf-11e9-8b63-a58ca55a4a3b

Sums up why my real distaste is reserved for the vocal remainers way, way, way ahead of the ERG tin hat brigade

Tend to agree. Clowns vote down a deal time and time again, which whilst wasn’t perfect, did get us out in a fashion, only potentially to end up with something much worse.

And they still don’t realise it.

The MPs voting against any Brexit deal are living in a bubble that is nothing like the real world. Well played guys. Fucking idiotic.

Exactly....and the transitional period meant an orderly period to sort out the rest.

 Some Labour shadow spokesperson on Sophie Ridge program this morning asked "so why didnt you vote for May's/EU's soft Brexit deal ?" ........"well it didn't met our 6 tests etc".

LOL....how are your 6 tests looking now!!?

[BigAdz]

Yeah, this will happen

Diabetes sufferers dying in the streets as we become a 3rd world country overnight.

I wonder if EU officials read blogs like this and because of Remainers so keen to be proven right, they go back to their bosses and say " yeah, no need to make any concessions they cant even agree amongst themselves, and some even seem happy if we take the piss"?

[aaron1867]

Always amusing to see people try and blame the MP’s with the benefit of hindsight

Blocking no deal - MP’s fault
No Brexit deal - MP’s fault
No majority for anything - MP’s fault

Brexit is complex. Leaving one part of the U.K. in the EU isn’t something folk can vote for, tariffs and shortages not something MP’s can vote for either. Just because we’re heading for no deal, suddenly it’s the MP’s fault.

Funnily enough it’s only the leave voters that say it too. Trying to take the blame off themselves for that utterly baffling decision to leave in the first place.

But hey, we can make our own laws and the Eastern European’s aren’t coming no more, cya

[MANTIS01]

MPs offered the referendum, didn’t provide much info, Boris bus, triggered Article 50 too soon, fucked the negotiations, relentless bickering, rejected the only deal, Maybot dancing, voted for self-interests, won’t talk to each other anymore, no plan, want JCorbs as PM.

blameless not a word springing to mind

[RickBFA]

Always amusing to see people try and blame the MP’s with the benefit of hindsight

Blocking no deal - MP’s fault
No Brexit deal - MP’s fault
No majority for anything - MP’s fault

Brexit is complex. Leaving one part of the U.K. in the EU isn’t something folk can vote for, tariffs and shortages not something MP’s can vote for either. Just because we’re heading for no deal, suddenly it’s the MP’s fault.

Funnily enough it’s only the leave voters that say it too. Trying to take the blame off themselves for that utterly baffling decision to leave in the first place.

But hey, we can make our own laws and the Eastern European’s aren’t coming no more, cya

Unsurprisingly if MP’s had voted for the deal their would be no threat of no deal would there?

Whether it’s the ERG, DUP, Lib Dem’s, moderate Tories and Labour, they have all screwed up between them.