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Question: How will you vote on December 12th 2019
Conservative - 19 (33.9%)
Labour - 12 (21.4%)
SNP - 2 (3.6%)
Lib Dem - 8 (14.3%)
Brexit - 1 (1.8%)
Green - 6 (10.7%)
Other - 2 (3.6%)
Spoil - 0 (0%)
Not voting - 6 (10.7%)
Total Voters: 56

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« Reply #22110 on: November 20, 2019, 09:30:38 AM »


Astonishingly underhanded, dishonest tactic. Never trust a Tory

I saw this early in the debate last night, and though much of it was "obvious" party political stuff, some of it looked very much like it was from one of those fact checking websites.  It feels like an own goal, as even though party political parties do sometimes do shady things, you don't want to be doing shady things quite so obviously. 

I liked Charlie Booker's take on this (sorry never got to the stage where I could post pictures; I realise it will be fairly easy!).

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« Reply #22111 on: November 20, 2019, 10:50:03 AM »


And so it goes on....


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« Reply #22112 on: November 20, 2019, 11:55:33 AM »

Amazingly, they continue to defend the tactic. If anyone thinks the general population of twitter is "fully aware" that CCHQ is the CONservatives giving an opinion, they're deluded. This is straight up fuckery of the highest order.
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« Reply #22113 on: November 21, 2019, 11:00:52 AM »


Astonishingly underhanded, dishonest tactic. Never trust a Tory

I saw this early in the debate last night, and though much of it was "obvious" party political stuff, some of it looked very much like it was from one of those fact checking websites.  It feels like an own goal, as even though party political parties do sometimes do shady things, you don't want to be doing shady things quite so obviously. 

I liked Charlie Booker's take on this (sorry never got to the stage where I could post pictures; I realise it will be fairly easy!).

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You did the impression that the major Tory spokesman didnt know it was going to happen. Chairman said on TV  "the social media team work under my brief"....but you sense a couple of young ultra keen cchq members thought it was a clever idea. Roll Eyes...and no one with any sense signed it off.
Another one was why didnt someone add up "bad floods =get Boris up there straight away"
 You do wonder why parties don't say pre election....1st : lets get some people with common bleeding sense to oversee the PR/media.
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« Reply #22114 on: November 21, 2019, 11:24:39 AM »

 Rebecca Long Bailey just now had the "honor"of  introducing Corbyn at the manifesto launch.

Labour desperately want a female leader when he probably goes post election.

RLB is left wing enough for the membership and someone the MP's would back.

The only opposition imo is Starmer...slight fav atm. Would make a better more centalist leader for Labour...but would he get enough votes from the left wing membership?

I think she is a decent bet, especially If you can get whatever of 5/1 if left.
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« Reply #22115 on: November 21, 2019, 11:42:14 AM »

Rebecca Long Bailey just now had the "honor"of  introducing Corbyn at the manifesto launch.

Labour desperately want a female leader when he probably goes post election.

RLB is left wing enough for the membership and someone the MP's would back.

The only opposition imo is Starmer...slight fav atm. Would make a better more centalist leader for Labour...but would he get enough votes from the left wing membership?

I think she is a decent bet, especially If you can get whatever of 5/1 if left.

Do you think Corbyn would leave if Boris gets back in? I get the impression it would take more than losing an election to budge him, especially after everyone carried on like he won the last one.
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« Reply #22116 on: November 21, 2019, 01:14:27 PM »

https://twitter.com/i/status/1197456672941387779

great work from the lib dem press office

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« Reply #22117 on: November 21, 2019, 01:57:07 PM »

This is why Tory strategists are watching leader ratings as closely as national polls. Only in 2005 did the more popular leader not win the election. And the gap is currently WIDE

In the realms of "its not happening but what if..." I do sometimes think where this election would be if Starmer or Cooper or Benn or (name someone not hated by the broader populace) was LOTO
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« Reply #22118 on: November 21, 2019, 02:12:27 PM »

this is interesting, accepting that individual constituency polling is unreliable

@britainelects
Great Grimsby, constituency voting intention:

CON: 44% (+2)
LAB: 31% (-18)
BREX: 17% (+17)
LDEM: 4% (+1)
GRN: 3% (+3)

via @Survation
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Chgs. w/ GE2017

Gt Grimsby is currently Labour and only the Conservatives 45th top target

If this is at all applicable across leave voting Northern areas...

probably worse than it looks for Labour nationally. Their vote is being condensed into safe remain seats in the cities where it has to battle Lib Dem and Green because the Remain side (or the we are mostly remain but our leader wants to leave side in Labour's case) haven't partnerred up.
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« Reply #22119 on: November 21, 2019, 02:37:51 PM »

this is interesting, accepting that individual constituency polling is unreliable

@britainelects
Great Grimsby, constituency voting intention:

CON: 44% (+2)
LAB: 31% (-18)
BREX: 17% (+17)
LDEM: 4% (+1)
GRN: 3% (+3)

via @Survation
, 14 - 15 Nov
Chgs. w/ GE2017

Gt Grimsby is currently Labour and only the Conservatives 45th top target

If this is at all applicable across leave voting Northern areas...

probably worse than it looks for Labour nationally. Their vote is being condensed into safe remain seats in the cities where it has to battle Lib Dem and Green because the Remain side (or the we are mostly remain but our leader wants to leave side in Labour's case) haven't partnerred up.

I was looking at the top 10 Tory targets v Labour based on smallest swing needed.

Quite a few at 1/3 for Tory win with tiny percentage move required.

Shame the bookies wont do multiples on them.

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« Reply #22120 on: November 21, 2019, 02:44:59 PM »

Labour’s 2019 Manifesto has doubled down on their plans to increase the size of the state. The £70bn of spending increases they proposed two years ago has now risen to £135 billion. This would take the size of the state to a post-war high, outside of recessions, of 45.1 per cent.
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« Reply #22121 on: November 21, 2019, 02:45:47 PM »

Under Labour's plans, current receipts as a share of GDP would also rise to a 50-year high.

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« Reply #22122 on: November 21, 2019, 02:48:49 PM »

this is a fun one

https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1197519769890672640?s=20

got to love the Farage legal letter repeatedly quoting EU statutes
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« Reply #22123 on: November 21, 2019, 03:02:34 PM »

this is interesting, accepting that individual constituency polling is unreliable

@britainelects
Great Grimsby, constituency voting intention:

CON: 44% (+2)
LAB: 31% (-18)
BREX: 17% (+17)
LDEM: 4% (+1)
GRN: 3% (+3)

via @Survation
, 14 - 15 Nov
Chgs. w/ GE2017

Gt Grimsby is currently Labour and only the Conservatives 45th top target

If this is at all applicable across leave voting Northern areas...

probably worse than it looks for Labour nationally. Their vote is being condensed into safe remain seats in the cities where it has to battle Lib Dem and Green because the Remain side (or the we are mostly remain but our leader wants to leave side in Labour's case) haven't partnerred up.

I was looking at the top 10 Tory targets v Labour based on smallest swing needed.

Quite a few at 1/3 for Tory win with tiny percentage move required.

Shame the bookies wont do multiples on them.



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« Reply #22124 on: November 21, 2019, 03:51:32 PM »

this is a fun one

https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1197519769890672640?s=20

got to love the Farage legal letter repeatedly quoting EU statutes

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