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Question: How will you vote on December 12th 2019
Conservative - 19 (33.9%)
Labour - 12 (21.4%)
SNP - 2 (3.6%)
Lib Dem - 8 (14.3%)
Brexit - 1 (1.8%)
Green - 6 (10.7%)
Other - 2 (3.6%)
Spoil - 0 (0%)
Not voting - 6 (10.7%)
Total Voters: 56

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« Reply #22515 on: December 11, 2019, 10:20:29 AM »

I want to run a small competition

Please post before polls close on Thursday to be eligible

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a) size of conservative majority or b) number of seats short of majority (and state which your answer is)

Nearest wins a £25 donation to a charity of their choice (will post screenshot)

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Anyway those that haven't can still have a crack at this

Put my money where your mouth is, or something like that.....
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« Reply #22516 on: December 11, 2019, 10:34:26 AM »

some of his videos and posts have been genuinely funny/good this campaign

doesn't look like he will win but this stuff is good

https://twitter.com/DavidGauke/status/1203724772632408074?s=20

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« Reply #22517 on: December 11, 2019, 10:36:04 AM »

If the State owns all the rental property.

What do you do if someone doesn't pay their rent?

I had been thinking that you reclaim the money in a a similar way to how it is reclaimed now. There must be ways to compel people to meet their rent/debt obligations?

Before she retired my mum was a Revenue Protection Officer for a housing association, most of her job was making sure that everyone claimed all the benefits they were entitled to but she also had to deal with the people who just didn't bother paying rent.

It was very difficult to evict people and took multiple court visits and multiple broken agreements from them but eventually a judge would agree when people could get kicked out.

The cost of all of these events is going to eat up a lot of the affordable rent profit from the 'good' tenants; but without the ultimate sanction of eviction then I would suspect the problem would be a growing one under a single monolithic government rental giant scheme.

i.e. even if it starts out making a profit; it's going to get less and less over time and eventually will definitely be loss making.

It’s certainly a good point that having nowhere else to go would be a complicating factor. Rent that never gets paid must be an incredible inefficiency in the current system.
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« Reply #22518 on: December 11, 2019, 10:39:12 AM »

I want to run a small competition

Please post before polls close on Thursday to be eligible

Answer with one number, either

a) size of conservative majority or b) number of seats short of majority (and state which your answer is)

Nearest wins a £25 donation to a charity of their choice (will post screenshot)

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Anyway those that haven't can still have a crack at this

Put my money where your mouth is, or something like that.....

Has Tory majority of 9 been guessed yet? I'll go for 9.
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« Reply #22519 on: December 11, 2019, 10:56:50 AM »

I want to run a small competition

Please post before polls close on Thursday to be eligible

Answer with one number, either

a) size of conservative majority or b) number of seats short of majority (and state which your answer is)

Nearest wins a £25 donation to a charity of their choice (will post screenshot)

In the event of a tie earliest guess wins



Anyway those that haven't can still have a crack at this

Put my money where your mouth is, or something like that.....

7 short, I’ll match the donation. Thanks for doing this Rich.
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« Reply #22520 on: December 11, 2019, 11:37:54 AM »

I want to run a small competition

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a) size of conservative majority or b) number of seats short of majority (and state which your answer is)

Nearest wins a £25 donation to a charity of their choice (will post screenshot)

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Anyway those that haven't can still have a crack at this

Put my money where your mouth is, or something like that.....

I said at start of campaign 25-35 majority.

I'll go for 26 majority.
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« Reply #22521 on: December 11, 2019, 11:38:22 AM »

some of his videos and posts have been genuinely funny/good this campaign

doesn't look like he will win but this stuff is good

https://twitter.com/DavidGauke/status/1203724772632408074?s=20



That is the best so far.  So many politics bores about at the minute
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« Reply #22522 on: December 11, 2019, 11:43:31 AM »

Majority of 32

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« Reply #22523 on: December 11, 2019, 11:47:20 AM »

I want to run a small competition

Please post before polls close on Thursday to be eligible

Answer with one number, either

a) size of conservative majority or b) number of seats short of majority (and state which your answer is)

Nearest wins a £25 donation to a charity of their choice (will post screenshot)

In the event of a tie earliest guess wins



Anyway those that haven't can still have a crack at this

Put my money where your mouth is, or something like that.....

I said at start of campaign 25-35 majority.

I'll go for 26 majority.


Have you been offered a decent cash out on your 7/4 bet?   Smiley
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« Reply #22524 on: December 11, 2019, 11:50:02 AM »

55 majority for me if it hasn't been taken.   Fancy a demolition job of JC.   Looking forward to seeing how much lolrron has had on laboour at 25/1 most seats and 40/1 majority given his recent lol posts.   Can you copy and paste your betting slips.   Must be close to the biggest bet you ever had at the relative prices.   You talk like its close to a coin flip.
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« Reply #22525 on: December 11, 2019, 11:50:41 AM »

I don't think its a game changer

lots of tactical voting in the south (possibly, though probably overstated on social where people are switched on to it) could get wiped out by losses in current Labour leave-voting heartland seats

Anything from Tory landslide to hung parliament is in the realm of possibility

Getting out the vote key, weather tomorrow could be a swing factor etc etc

Fair bit of rain/bad weather around.........who's that good for?  Students not leaving the pub?....older voters not going out?
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« Reply #22526 on: December 11, 2019, 12:04:45 PM »

What do we think of the WASPI women vote?

An estimated 3.8million women born in the 1950s will get an ave of 15K from labour (in theory).

Surely a huge % of them will now vote labour?

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« Reply #22527 on: December 11, 2019, 12:49:53 PM »

I don't think its a game changer

lots of tactical voting in the south (possibly, though probably overstated on social where people are switched on to it) could get wiped out by losses in current Labour leave-voting heartland seats

Anything from Tory landslide to hung parliament is in the realm of possibility

Getting out the vote key, weather tomorrow could be a swing factor etc etc

Fair bit of rain/bad weather around.........who's that good for?  Students not leaving the pub?....older voters not going out?

I pondered this and went the other weather, I think young people more likely to say fuck it and stay home
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« Reply #22528 on: December 11, 2019, 12:55:40 PM »

What do we think of the WASPI women vote?

An estimated 3.8million women born in the 1950s will get an ave of 15K from labour (in theory).

Surely a huge % of them will now vote labour?



I very much doubt that.

Women born in the 50’s are much less susceptible to fantasy offers than the students who think their student loans will be written off.
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« Reply #22529 on: December 11, 2019, 01:17:01 PM »

What do we think of the WASPI women vote?

An estimated 3.8million women born in the 1950s will get an ave of 15K from labour (in theory).

Surely a huge % of them will now vote labour?



I very much doubt that.

Women born in the 50’s are much less susceptible to fantasy offers than the students who think their student loans will be written off.

I can't find a poll which shows a breakdown by both age and gender - but by gender about 30% are already voting for Labour anyway; and about 40% are voting for small parties (so maybe won't be swayed because they're already voting for a party that definitely won't be in power?)

So even if some can be bribed into the Labour vote it could be a significant number, but maybe not too significant.
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