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Question: How will you vote on December 12th 2019
Conservative - 19 (34.5%)
Labour - 12 (21.8%)
SNP - 2 (3.6%)
Lib Dem - 8 (14.5%)
Brexit - 1 (1.8%)
Green - 6 (10.9%)
Other - 1 (1.8%)
Spoil - 0 (0%)
Not voting - 6 (10.9%)
Total Voters: 55

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« Reply #22605 on: December 12, 2019, 10:06:07 PM »

Exit poll:

The pattern of voting suggests that the Conservative party has increased its vote share in constituencies that voted in large numbers to leave the 2016 EU referendum. This is especially true in working class constituencies being defended by Labour.



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« Reply #22606 on: December 12, 2019, 10:06:32 PM »

Anyone higher than my guess at 50 on the majority?
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« Reply #22607 on: December 12, 2019, 10:07:26 PM »

Exit poll 2

Labour’s vote has fallen everywhere but the decline is less in London and parts of southern England. The party’s heartlands have moved away from the former industrial and manufacturing towns of the country to the major cities.
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« Reply #22608 on: December 12, 2019, 10:08:00 PM »

Exit poll 3

Labour’s overall loss of 71 seats will make Corbyn one of the least successful of all Labour leaders.
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« Reply #22609 on: December 12, 2019, 10:08:34 PM »

Exit poll 4

The SNP has dominated in Scotland, forecast to win 55 of the 59 constituencies there taking it close to the 56 seats it won in 2015.
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« Reply #22610 on: December 12, 2019, 10:09:04 PM »

Exit 5

Lib Dems hv increased their vote share in constituencies that voted to remain in the EU, especially in areas with large numbers of graduates and professional workers. But overall the Liberal Democrats are heading for a disappointing night in terms of an increase in seats
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« Reply #22611 on: December 12, 2019, 10:09:36 PM »

Exit poll 6

** CON highest since 1987
** Lab lowest since 1935
** Suggests Jo Swinson's seat of East Dunbartonshire is 50/50
** Suggests Independent Claire Wright could win Devon East
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« Reply #22612 on: December 12, 2019, 10:10:25 PM »

Exit poll 7

Labour seats the exit poll suggests are under threat from the

Conservatives:
Workington (earliest declaration)
Bolsover
Rother Valley
Ashfield
Bassetlaw
Great Grimsby
Wrexham
Bishop Auckland
Don Valley
Stoke on Trent North
Ashfield
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Canterbury
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« Reply #22613 on: December 12, 2019, 10:11:35 PM »

191 seats for Labour.  I'm genuinely astonished at that.
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« Reply #22614 on: December 12, 2019, 10:17:00 PM »

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« Reply #22615 on: December 12, 2019, 10:18:20 PM »

 
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« Reply #22616 on: December 12, 2019, 10:18:40 PM »

I'll be extremely surprised if the Tories don't get at least 350 seats.

As with the referendum,  just painting a very negative and disastrous future under the Tories and in the event Brexit happens is not enough. The 'remain' parties best offer is to deprive the Tories of a majority, leading to another hung parliament and minority Tory Government. That's not enough either.

This election should have been the biggest open goal in history. Social care, and fair benefits is a massive issue and I'm sure Labour should have banged that drum non stop day in day out ahead of the NHS and demonstrable lies (NHS for Sale, drugs will be 500m a week more) , way ahead of WASPI women, ahead of ad hominem attacks on Johnson's character, ahead of attacks on billionaires. When you attack 'billionaires' , just 150 people in the UK, it's a dog whistle to attack everyone who has achieved and earned quite well. People way outside the top 5% - say earning 50k a year and owning a house will feel just as attacked by this as the billionaire.

A much more honest proposition and winning one in  my view would be to propose the reforms necessary to Universal credit (just give people the money in advance ffs), disability benefits, social care and explain it's about a different vision of what the country should be and we will all (say everyone earning over 40k) will need to pay more tax.  Make it a collective proposition and try to bring people with you.

These things matter much more than re-nationalisation, than banging on about workers rights, gender pay gaps, zero hours contracts, Islamophobia - oh, and stop being anti semitic

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« Reply #22617 on: December 12, 2019, 10:22:05 PM »

The exit poll comes with a projection for every seat and what is striking is that it looks like the Tories have had a dire night in London as well as Scotland but still won a stonking majority. This means the Tories must have swung a wrecking ball through that Red Wall.
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« Reply #22618 on: December 12, 2019, 10:22:57 PM »

The exit poll comes with a projection for every seat and what is striking is that it looks like the Tories have had a dire night in London as well as Scotland but still won a stonking majority. This means the Tories must have swung a wrecking ball through that Red Wall.

Labour heartlands might have changed forever tonight.  Scotland had zero impact on the result which hardly anyone would have predicted.
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« Reply #22619 on: December 12, 2019, 10:23:15 PM »

Where's Aaron!

What’s the exit poll got to do with me?

Btw, I thought the Exit poll was bigger than 23k?
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