Euro 2016 thread

[david3103]

Unbiased question.

What do people think of Robbie Saveage as co-comm?

if you think he is good or bad, would you accept that is unconventional to have a co comm so very keen on the side he is supporting?


who are the best and worst pundits so far inthe euros?

can i put forward?

slaven bilic - brilliant

and you can give me some other names, good or bad

Thought savage was very good today. Obviously up for the Welsh which is fine from a co-comm, but gave good impartial opinions throughout.

The only annoying thing about him was that he was good as I can't normally stand him.

Agree that Bilic has been great. Just don't like Henry even though he speaks well. and the usual MOTD crew are pretty awful.

As for England. Great to see Rashford playing like Sterling used to before things got serious. Poor Raheem, seems to carry the weight of the world and looks like he needs to fall in love with the game again. Nothing comes naturally to him now and I'll be amazed if he gets another minute in this comp.

Vardy needs to start, especially in  the games where we are losing the possession stats. Wiltshire needs to play as well for me. Think Roy got lucky today against an average side. I'm happy to give him credit for bold substitutions but overall he seems a bit clueless. Can't remember him playing 3/4 strikers before in a warm up game or qualifier so it appears his plan B was concocted in the Lens toilets at half time when he's had all year to draw one up and try it out.

Roy did the 4 strikers at Fulham when they made the Europa Final.
Vardy was peripheral other than his goal. He's not suited to a game where the opposition are playing deep and defending hard. Not sure Slovakia will play much different from Wales, a draw will probably be enough for them. Start with Sturridge or Rashford alongside Kane feels better. I thought Lallana might be an answer in the first half hour v Russia, but much as it pains me to say it, maybe Milner really does warrant a place. If only Delph had been available and not ruined by greed.

[exstream]

Delph?
Where would he fit in

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[david3103]

Delph?
Where would he fit in

F*** knows, I was just indulging in a little City baiting

But there has to be a better option than Lallana.

[TightEnd]

any thoughts on any issue or not with Kane

as usual people are trying to back fit to work out his performances

one suggestion is he is knackered

65 games in the last 12 months

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Petit said last night "that is why you English will never win anything, no winter break"

He has certainly looked a bit sluggish over a game and a half here

why would he lack confidence after the season he has had?

Wuld you start him against Slovakia? Try and get him a goal.......

[nirvana]

Rooney has surprised me with his (relative) composure in the midfield role. Assuming Sterling is toast, I'd start Wilshere in a central role, move Alli out to the left and Sturridge for Kane seems a no-brainer while Kane is having a, hopefully, temporary dip in form

Looks a bit silly that we don't have Townsend as an option now

[nirvana]

Was also thinking that Rooney is having his best tournament for a while and thinking it's no coincidence that the weight of expectation on him is far far less than previous tourns. Probably quite liberating for him.

[DungBeetle]

With Kane I imagine playing the U21 tournament last year, and now Euros this year is tough.  Plus Spurs very rarely rotate him (if at all?)

[JohnCharver]

I'd rest Kane for the first half vs Slovakia. Let him come on early in the 2nd. He will react well imo as he did when sub previous. Sturridge lost or wasted possession a lot on the wing and either plays upfront or doesn't play for me. We need two forwards in the middle to allow our fullbacks good work to have an end product as swinging it in atm seems to be betting on your striker outdoing 4 players. Our width is the key to success and obv we only now how fullbacks to provide this. Let's see vardy and Sturridge, we may just benefit from sturridges injury plagued season meaning he's fresh and give vardy 60 mins to show what he's got, then let Kane show us what he's got. Make Kane hungry and fight for his place and he will come back better imo. Play 4 in midfield, Rooney alli dier and pick one that's not called Milner.

[rinswun]

Really looking forward to watching Croatia later. Modric, Rakitic, Perisic. What a superb midfield they have.

[JohnCharver]

Really looking forward to watching Croatia later. Modric, Rakitic, Perisic. What a superb midfield they have.

Odds on commentator pointing out the Czechs aren't the ones in checks?

[Tal]

With Kane I imagine playing the U21 tournament last year, and now Euros this year is tough.  Plus Spurs very rarely rotate him (if at all?)

Started every PL game last season.

[dino1980]

I figure the table below will come in useful over the next few days:

* If England or Wales top Group B they're very unlikely to face Northern Ireland, it'll be one of Romania/Albania or Turkey/Czech Republic.
* If England or Wales finish third in Group B they're very likely to face Germany or Poland
* If Northern Ireland finish third in Group C they're most likely to face France (or whoever wins Group A)

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[JohnCharver]

I figure the table below will come in useful over the next few days:

* If England or Wales top Group B they're very unlikely to face Northern Ireland, it'll be one of Romania/Albania or Turkey/Czech Republic.
* If England or Wales finish third in Group B they're very likely to face Germany or Poland
* If Northern Ireland finish third in Group C they're most likely to face France (or whoever wins Group A)

finishing second looks pretty nice there, group F are all pretty poor based on first showing.