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nirvana
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Re: The Next President of the United States
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February 26, 2020, 08:04:18 PM »
Quote from: bookiebasher on February 26, 2020, 07:44:26 PM
Quote from: nirvana on February 26, 2020, 06:49:05 PM
Quote from: bookiebasher on February 26, 2020, 01:16:08 PM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8045425/Joe-Biden-says-150-MILLION-Americans-died-gun-violence-2007-latest-gaffe.html
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/joe-biden-nelson-mandela-arrest-south-africa-prison-apartheid-south-carolina-debate-a9359596.html
If Warren or any other candidate for that matter had said the insane things Biden has said recently their
campaign would have been over.
Also Trump is going to keep banging on about Biden's son Hunter and Burisma in any heads up battle.
He's old school , Hilary Clinton was old school , surely democrats must realise the way to beat Trump is
on progressive policies which means Bernie or Warren.
I'm not sure this is the right analysis - Obama was youngish but about as old school as you can get and it wasn't so long ago he won an election. Pretty confident he would have beaten Trump too. Clinton didn't lose because she wasn't progressive enough imo. Biden is too old and too irrelevant rather than being too old school in outlook.
I'd be more amazed if Sanders won in the US than if Corbyn or Foot had won here..even against Trump.
They could do with an old school democrat with a decent record, decent character, some depth, younger than Biden, older than Mayor Pete - deffo think more Bill and Barrack than Joe or Bernie and Liz from the left.
Obvs just an opinion and it's going to be fascinating to see how this all plays out
To compare Obama to Clinton and Biden is a bit of a stretch . The way Obama came across to the
American and world population is far superior to anything Clinton and Biden could achieve .
He had and still does have real charisma , regardless of whether you think his policies were
old school and not progressive .
Trump won because he was supposedly anti establishment . Obviously that was all bollocks.
To beat him you need someone who’s going to shake things up , like he promised , “ drain the
swamp”.
In my opinion , a boring centrist approach to beating a moron like Trump won’t exactly excite
democrats to go out and vote and going out to vote is key , as Hilary found out .
You may well be right. Only 8 months or so to find out :-)
Yes Obama is head and shoulders above the current candidates, but it isn't because he wanted to drain swamps or pursue left policies - ie old school dem politics is fine, it's the presenter they can't find. Not sure Obama could be elected if he pursued the politics of the Squad for example.
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Re: The Next President of the United States
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February 26, 2020, 08:08:00 PM »
Agree a Bill or Barack would have a better chance but they have one ingredient
the moderates don’t have , charisma and character .
Biden and Pete come across dull as dishwater , not exactly firing up your base .
At least with Bernie and Warren you get the feeling of passion and genuine
enthusiasm of wanting real change .
Obviously that’s how they come across to me anyway .
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February 26, 2020, 08:19:12 PM »
I wonder if Obama could be elected if he said this .....
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2016/01/23/trump_i_could_stand_in_the_middle_of_fifth_avenue_and_shoot_somebody_and_i_wouldnt_lose_any_voters.html
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February 28, 2020, 07:08:19 AM »
Farming and factory work, by Mike Bloomberg.
“I could teach anybody to be a farmer” isn’t really a vote-winner in some areas.
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Re: The Next President of the United States
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February 28, 2020, 09:30:08 AM »
Great news that the House is able to take time from education, immigration, the economy, healthcare, Coronavirus and the many other pressing issues to pass an anti-lynching bill similar to Kamala’s one in the Senate, finally equipping the nation to deal with the epidemic of lynchings that has been sweeping the country.
Next week, outlawing stagecoach robberies and affirming women’s right to vote.
https://www.npr.org/2020/02/26/809705702/it-s-about-time-house-approves-historic-bill-making-lynching-a-federal-crime?t=1582881380613
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Re: The Next President of the United States
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February 28, 2020, 12:29:27 PM »
Quote from: MintTrav on February 28, 2020, 07:08:19 AM
Farming and factory work, by Mike Bloomberg.
“I could teach anybody to be a farmer” isn’t really a vote-winner in some areas.
Is he a plant, to make the Donald look smart?
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February 28, 2020, 02:51:42 PM »
Quote from: MintTrav on February 28, 2020, 09:30:08 AM
Great news that the House is able to take time from education, immigration, the economy, healthcare, Coronavirus and the many other pressing issues to pass an anti-lynching bill similar to Kamala’s one in the Senate, finally equipping the nation to deal with the epidemic of lynchings that has been sweeping the country.
Next week, outlawing stagecoach robberies and affirming women’s right to vote.
https://www.npr.org/2020/02/26/809705702/it-s-about-time-house-approves-historic-bill-making-lynching-a-federal-crime?t=1582881380613
Amazing really. Don't suppose you know the rationale for the 4 people who voted against it ?
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February 28, 2020, 02:55:51 PM »
Quote from: nirvana on February 28, 2020, 02:51:42 PM
Quote from: MintTrav on February 28, 2020, 09:30:08 AM
Great news that the House is able to take time from education, immigration, the economy, healthcare, Coronavirus and the many other pressing issues to pass an anti-lynching bill similar to Kamala’s one in the Senate, finally equipping the nation to deal with the epidemic of lynchings that has been sweeping the country.
Next week, outlawing stagecoach robberies and affirming women’s right to vote.
https://www.npr.org/2020/02/26/809705702/it-s-about-time-house-approves-historic-bill-making-lynching-a-federal-crime?t=1582881380613
Amazing really. Don't suppose you know the rationale for the 4 people who voted against it ?
They'd have no use for the pillowcases that have holes in them.
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Re: The Next President of the United States
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February 28, 2020, 04:15:34 PM »
Quote from: Marky147 on February 28, 2020, 02:55:51 PM
Quote from: nirvana on February 28, 2020, 02:51:42 PM
Quote from: MintTrav on February 28, 2020, 09:30:08 AM
Great news that the House is able to take time from education, immigration, the economy, healthcare, Coronavirus and the many other pressing issues to pass an anti-lynching bill similar to Kamala’s one in the Senate, finally equipping the nation to deal with the epidemic of lynchings that has been sweeping the country.
Next week, outlawing stagecoach robberies and affirming women’s right to vote.
https://www.npr.org/2020/02/26/809705702/it-s-about-time-house-approves-historic-bill-making-lynching-a-federal-crime?t=1582881380613
Amazing really. Don't suppose you know the rationale for the 4 people who voted against it ?
They'd have no use for the pillowcases that have holes in them.
Two of them suggested it's an over reach of Federal government - basicallly how dare the Federal government tell the States how racist they can or can't be
One said he voted against it because the 10 year prison sentence was trivially low; but he's been generally condemned for voting against.
I couldn't find the reason behind the fourth one.
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Re: The Next President of the United States
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February 28, 2020, 05:03:27 PM »
Quote from: Jon MW on February 28, 2020, 04:15:34 PM
Quote from: Marky147 on February 28, 2020, 02:55:51 PM
Quote from: nirvana on February 28, 2020, 02:51:42 PM
Quote from: MintTrav on February 28, 2020, 09:30:08 AM
Great news that the House is able to take time from education, immigration, the economy, healthcare, Coronavirus and the many other pressing issues to pass an anti-lynching bill similar to Kamala’s one in the Senate, finally equipping the nation to deal with the epidemic of lynchings that has been sweeping the country.
Next week, outlawing stagecoach robberies and affirming women’s right to vote.
https://www.npr.org/2020/02/26/809705702/it-s-about-time-house-approves-historic-bill-making-lynching-a-federal-crime?t=1582881380613
Amazing really. Don't suppose you know the rationale for the 4 people who voted against it ?
They'd have no use for the pillowcases that have holes in them.
Two of them suggested it's an over reach of Federal government - basicallly how dare the Federal government tell the States how racist they can or can't be
One said he voted against it because the 10 year prison sentence was trivially low; but he's been generally condemned for voting against.
I couldn't find the reason behind the fourth one.
Amazing
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Re: The Next President of the United States
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February 29, 2020, 11:01:23 AM »
I see Trump has stated at a recent rally that the Coronavirus is actually a hoax, a liberal conspiracy to undermine his first term.
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Big day today. Looking forward to seeing the results tomorrow
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March 03, 2020, 02:44:56 PM »
Quote from: nirvana on March 03, 2020, 02:27:01 PM
Big day today. Looking forward to seeing the results tomorrow
I'm not
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If Biden wins the nomination I have a money making idea.
I will set up a Tipping Line and put up selections and then those that subscribe do the complete
opposite of what I do.
What could possibly go wrong.
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Quote from: bookiebasher on March 03, 2020, 02:44:56 PM
Quote from: nirvana on March 03, 2020, 02:27:01 PM
Big day today. Looking forward to seeing the results tomorrow
I'm not
Ah yes. You've got a bit more riding on the outcome compared with my academic interest 😊
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