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« Reply #120 on: April 29, 2016, 03:47:16 AM »

yeah the guy was likely best guy in the draft
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« Reply #121 on: April 29, 2016, 03:55:40 AM »

think tighty is 4-3 up in correct teams
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« Reply #122 on: April 29, 2016, 04:05:22 AM »

Mayock is king of the aftertimers.

Every time he gets a pick right, he flags it up.

No mention of his picks otherwise.
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« Reply #123 on: April 29, 2016, 04:08:28 AM »

Jane Coaston ‏@cjane87 6m6 minutes ago Washington, DC

Remember: Tunsil is being sued by his stepfather for "emotional distress" when Tunsil allegedly stopped him from attacking his mother.
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« Reply #124 on: April 29, 2016, 04:27:19 AM »

Mayock mentions two WRs as possibles for the Texans.

Texans pick a different WR.

Mayock "Just as I said, it was obvious the Texans would pick a wide receiver"
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« Reply #125 on: April 29, 2016, 08:39:59 AM »

Best prices for the Superb Owl:

15/2 Seattle Seahawks
9/1 New England Patriots
9/1 Carolina Panthers
12/1 Pittsburgh Steelers
12/1 Green Bay Packers
14/1 Arizona Cardinals
16/1 Cincinnati Bengals
18/1 Denver Broncos
25/1 bar

Seahawks favourite? The three teams below them in this list should win their divisions. Seattle will struggle to win 11 games and might not make the cut. What's the bookies' reasoning?

Was hoping the Steelers would be bigger. Hurts to say it but I think they'll get there this year. Unfortunately don't think the Bengals will do too well this season, the Ravens won't be that bad again. Steelers are a very good team. And Bengals schedule isn't the easiest either apart from no East coast matches which helps
Big rumour bengals take fuller or doctson if there still on the board..

From what I've heard I'd prefer Doctson or Coleman to Fuller. Even Michael Thomas. I know they lost 2 Wrs. But anyone coming in will be 4/5th target behind Green Eifert Bernard LaFell   

But supposedly Fuller just has his pace and is prone to drops due to having 'tiny' hand size and arm length

So William Jackson III. Another corner. Not surprised they went a bit left field. With the big Wrs all gone I reckon theyll address that in the second round as there's not much difference in receivers now those few have gone. Hopefully Michael Thomas will still be around.

Interested to see who takes Derrick Henry. He's a beast who could easily fail in the nfl. But looks like he'll be entertaining anyway
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« Reply #126 on: April 29, 2016, 10:40:06 AM »

Tal, most versions i submit are no trades but as you have done trades

1. LA - Goff - QB
2. PHI - Wentz - QB
3. SD - Buckner - DE
4. DAL - Ramsey CB/S
5. JAX - Bosa - DE
6. BAL - Tunsil - OT
7. Trade MIA Elliott - RB.
8. Trade OAK - Hargreaves - CB
9. TB - Stanley -OT
10. NYG - Floyd -OLB
11. CHI - Apple - CB
12. NO - Rankins - DT
13. SF - Lawson - DE
14. CLE - Ragland - LB
15. TEN - Conklin -OT
16. DET - Decker -OT
17. ATL - Jack - LB
18. IND - Jackson - CB
19. BUF - Lee - LB
20. trade DEN - Lynch- QB
21. WAS - Kelly - C
22. HOU - Coleman - WR
23. MIN - Treadwell - WR
24. CIN - Doctson - WR
25. PIT - Ragland LB
26. SEA - Whitehair - OG
27. GB - Robinson - DT
28. KC- Fuller - WR
29. ARI - Joseph - S
30. CAR - Alexander- CB
31. NYJ - Cook QB


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upgrade to 3 points first round pick to right team

winner buys the other a cuppa next time we meet?

24 correct names

7 to the right team. goff, wentz, conklin, lynch, decker, rankins, treadwell

(17 x 1) + (7 x 3)= 38

now to do Tal's
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« Reply #127 on: April 29, 2016, 10:42:21 AM »

Tal's mock draft (subject to fourteen more versions in the next 48 hours):

1. LA - Goff - QB
2. PHI - Wentz - QB
3. SD - Tunsil - OL
4. DAL - Bosa - DE
5. JAX - Ramsey - CB/S
6. BAL - Bucknor - DE
7. SF - Stanley - OT

Trade alert! Oakland and Cleveland trade picks.

8. OAK - Elliott - RB
9. TB - Hargreaves - CB
10. NYG - Floyd - OLB
11. CHI - Lawson - DE
12. NO - Lynch - QB
13. MIA - Apple - CB
14. CLE - Jack - LB
15. TEN - Conklin - OT
16. DET - Robinson - DT
17. ATL - Ragland - LB
18. IND - Decker - OT
19. BUF - Reed - DT
20. NYJ - Dodd - DE
21. WAS - (Ryan) Kelly - C
22. HOU - Coleman - WR
23. MIN - Treadwell - WR
24. CIN - Ogbah - DE
25. PIT - Jackson III - CB
26. SEA - Ifedi - OT
27. GB - Lee - LB
28. KC - Rankins - DT
29. ARI - Joseph - S
30. CAR - Spriggs - OT
31. DEN - Whitehair - OG

Anyone else fancy posting theirs?

Any views on the list above? Marks out of 31?

I can see a trade or two in the 17-24 range, as teams vie for particular players, but I am struggling to see where, based on the order as I've done it. As played, I think that stays as it is.

23 correct names

7 correct team goff, wentz, ramsey, hargreaves,conklin, treadwell, ifedi

(16x 1) + (7x3) = 37
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« Reply #128 on: April 29, 2016, 12:18:33 PM »

GG WP.

Can't believe neither of us decided the potential number one overall pick two weeks ago would have a video posted on his twitter account an hour before the draft of him smoking pot...


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« Reply #129 on: April 30, 2016, 04:17:43 AM »

Highlight of the draft so far, for me - https://vine.co/v/iPI0jtFiFtA

Patriots' 3rd round pick, former Pats RB Kevin Faulk comes out to announce the pick, with a Tom Brady jersey on under an unbuttoned suit jacket.

"With the 78th pick, the New England Patriots AND Tom Brady select Joe Thuney, North Carolina State"  stirthepot
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« Reply #130 on: April 30, 2016, 04:56:09 AM »

Highlight of the draft so far, for me - https://vine.co/v/iPI0jtFiFtA

Patriots' 3rd round pick, former Pats RB Kevin Faulk comes out to announce the pick, with a Tom Brady jersey on under an unbuttoned suit jacket.

"With the 78th pick, the New England Patriots AND Tom Brady select Joe Thuney, North Carolina State"  stirthepot

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000658177/article/kevin-faulk-supports-tom-brady-at-nfl-draft

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« Reply #131 on: April 30, 2016, 11:44:41 AM »

Happy with Tyler Boyd for the Bengals

Jags taking a risk on Jack looks good for them. They'll be a good watch next year. Cowboys have taken some crackers (although injured)
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« Reply #132 on: April 30, 2016, 12:12:15 PM »

Happy with Tyler Boyd for the Bengals

Jags taking a risk on Jack looks good for them. They'll be a good watch next year. Cowboys have taken some crackers (although injured)

The AFC South is the division to watch this year. I wonder what price the Colts will be to finish fourth.

As for the Cowboys, I'm convinced they made a mistake taking Elliott. They have RunDMC and Alfred Morris who can carry the rock 20 times a game without issue and are both good enough to make use of an excellent offensive line. You or I could get 500 yards in this team. Instead of getting help in an area they need it (DE, secondary), they instead decided to please the fans and take a guy who won't be so much above what is there in 2016 (he will be in 2017).

The bit in brackets above is precisely why I can't get my head around the choice of Jaylon Smith in the second round. Tony Romo has 2 years left at most. It's a winnable division in 2016, so make the defense strong enough to win the ball in field position. No, what they do is draft a guy who won't be around until next year, when he might not have a quarterback to win the ball for.

It's really hard to understand the mentality. What is the strategy? Elliott is a great pass protector? Lovely. He's going to get tired of 17 stone blokes pushing him during play actions, though.

Tighty, what's your take on it?

Conversely, I'm amazed that the Bills have drafted very sensibly. That doesn't seem like us at all.
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« Reply #133 on: April 30, 2016, 12:28:43 PM »

i think Elliott is an exciting pick.

Immediate candidate for offensive rookie of the year, rushing behind the best OL in the game

won't come off the field, mcfadden is a cut candidate as he doesn't play special teams and his contract makes him very cuttable. was very much a bridge player to get you from demarco to a rookie, and he has done that job fine

mcfadden got 1100 yards in 12 starts last year but the OL had to change substantially as he couldn't run into a zone blocking scheme which they like to run. He only got 3 rushing touchdowns

Elliott takes that OL back to what they are good at and should be substantially better than what they had in 2015.

think 1500 yards+, 10 or so touchdowns if he plays all 16

He blocks too, better than most rb's you'll see so Romo protection goes up a notch

in theory he keeps the dallas defense off the field more, he sustains drives...we could hardly do anything on 3rd and 1 last year as defenses stacked the box. if you stack the box now, assuming romo is fit, the passing game might get you and if you don't stack it elliott will

so its a "win now" pick, which sort of goes with romo having a couple more years and the two QBs not being available when dallas drafted

in isolation, fine. we then tried to trade back in and get paxton lynch which made sense too, develop him for a couple of years, but denver had a better trade offer


i then thought immediate defensive help was likely in rounds 2 and 3. i was stunned to see them pick jaylon smith who is likely to need a redshirt season. this seemed completely inconsistent with the strategy behind picking elliott

only a GM who isn't at risk of being fired, as he won't fire himself, can make that pick

now jaylon looks wonderful when fit, top player but its a luxury pick

so we have elliott/jaylon and a back up in the third round

the strategy just seems schizophrenic but this is really no different than we see every year as he is owner and GM

Isit there watching the draft and thinking about team A "yes, that makes sense" and team B "ok, good value" and then Dallas drafts and i spend hours working out wtf they are thinking. Nt so much the first round picks, which have been by and large very good...but the mid round stuff works less often than it should


the problem with the top of this draft was

- weak
- two top quarterbacks out of reach for dallas
- no pass rusher worth pick 4
- the top DB is a corner/safety hybrid exactly like the one they drafted in the first round last year
- we have an all pro OL, so don't need to pick high there

so i can understand elliott.

it was yesterday i struggled with.

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« Reply #134 on: April 30, 2016, 12:34:13 PM »

Teams stacked the box against Dallas last year because Bryant was out and whoever was under center had to run it. That won't be the case this year.

Elliott might well be OROTY but Dallas are still one of four teams who can win their division. That to me is the problem.
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