NFL 2017-18 season

[Tal]

Go on then.



I'll get my Dante Fowler shoes ready to watch it on Friday morning.

[rinswun]

If Tunsil is still there at 5 I think the Titans will try and move back up.

[Marky147]

Terrible news...



RIP First Take 

[TightEnd]

thank heavens for that

horrific pundit, terrible show

unlucky Fox sports, dumbing down coming your way.

[Tal]

thank heavens for that

horrific pundit, terrible show

unlucky Fox sports, dumbing down coming your way.

All those ESPN shows where they argue black is white for the sake of a debate like Around the Horn or Pardon the Interruption are garbage...

But Stephen A v Skip is by far the best

[The Camel]

thank heavens for that

horrific pundit, terrible show

unlucky Fox sports, dumbing down coming your way.

All those ESPN shows where they argue black is white for the sake of a debate like Around the Horn or Pardon the Interruption are garbage...

But Stephen A v Skip is by far the best

Pardon The Interuption is fantastic!

Wilbon and Kornheiser >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Smith and Bayless.

[Tal]

thank heavens for that

horrific pundit, terrible show

unlucky Fox sports, dumbing down coming your way.

All those ESPN shows where they argue black is white for the sake of a debate like Around the Horn or Pardon the Interruption are garbage...

But Stephen A v Skip is by far the best

Pardon The Interuption is fantastic!

Wilbon and Kornheiser >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Smith and Bayless.

The cringiest part is always whenever these shows have to discuss soccerball. At least Steven A has the decency to say he has no idea about the sport. It'd be like me offering punditry on ice hockey (and calling it ice hockey) because I used to play some game on the megadrive 20 years ago.

Letterman, America's Parkie, looks baffled as John Oliver explains the football league system to him:



Camel, how would you price up Tal v Tighty in a Draft-off?

[Cavey007]

Best prices for the Superb Owl:

15/2 Seattle Seahawks
9/1 New England Patriots
9/1 Carolina Panthers
12/1 Pittsburgh Steelers
12/1 Green Bay Packers
14/1 Arizona Cardinals
16/1 Cincinnati Bengals
18/1 Denver Broncos
25/1 bar

Seahawks favourite? The three teams below them in this list should win their divisions. Seattle will struggle to win 11 games and might not make the cut. What's the bookies' reasoning?

Was hoping the Steelers would be bigger. Hurts to say it but I think they'll get there this year. Unfortunately don't think the Bengals will do too well this season, the Ravens won't be that bad again. Steelers are a very good team. And Bengals schedule isn't the easiest either apart from no East coast matches which helps

[The Camel]

thank heavens for that

horrific pundit, terrible show

unlucky Fox sports, dumbing down coming your way.

All those ESPN shows where they argue black is white for the sake of a debate like Around the Horn or Pardon the Interruption are garbage...

But Stephen A v Skip is by far the best

Pardon The Interuption is fantastic!

Wilbon and Kornheiser >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Smith and Bayless.

The cringiest part is always whenever these shows have to discuss soccerball. At least Steven A has the decency to say he has no idea about the sport. It'd be like me offering punditry on ice hockey (and calling it ice hockey) because I used to play some game on the megadrive 20 years ago.

Letterman, America's Parkie, looks baffled as John Oliver explains the football league system to him:



Camel, how would you price up Tal v Tighty in a Draft-off?

Incredible as it may seem, the NFL draft bewilders me as much British football bewilders Letterman.

In your respective lists, I know a little about maybe 8 players (that might be an exaggeration!) and I've heard the names of about half.

Studying the draft would involve listening extensively to the views of Kiper and Mayock, who would be in my top 5 most annoying analysts of any sport.

I will watch the start of tonight's coverage only because I've got a bet on who the first player drafted is and apart from that, I will read all the analysis of how each team drafted after the event.

The whole hoopla of the event mystifies me by somewhat, I would rather study a class 6 handicap at Bath, than try to work out which LB Buffalo will draft in the 3rd round.

[TightEnd]

you don't have to listen to Kiper and Mayock

a lot of the local guys just as knowledgable, closer to the teams

its like a giant game theory puzzle, as fascinating to me as when i first discovered it around 2002

as an individual, nothing better than watching some film (not even the coaches film but a college game or a highlights package) deciding you think Randy Mcrunningback from Nebraska is going to be the next big thing and following him from an 18yo  freshman to the NFL, seeing where he is picked etc

[The Camel]

Bewildered is probably the wrong word.

If you enjoy college football as much as NFL (I don't, far too many mismatches and too much pressure on young kids for my liking) I can understand why you'd enjoy the draft and all it's nuances.

Just seems like starting from a standpoint of knowing virtually nothing, to having an understanding deep enough to know what is happening exactly and why, seems like a task far too daunting to achieve.

[Marky147]

thank heavens for that

horrific pundit, terrible show

unlucky Fox sports, dumbing down coming your way.

All those ESPN shows where they argue black is white for the sake of a debate like Around the Horn or Pardon the Interruption are garbage...

But Stephen A v Skip is by far the best

Stephen A is superb, and even better when Skip is winding him up.

Viewing for the fishcakes like myself, rather than the finer palates, like Camel & Tighty

[ForthThistle]

Can someone tell me in Bullet Points how this Draft Works?

Like why would teams give up #1 Pick and Stuff?

No idea but will watch it anyway. lol

[Cavey007]

Can someone tell me in Bullet Points how this Draft Works?

Like why would teams give up #1 Pick and Stuff?

No idea but will watch it anyway. lol

Goes reverse order on how the teams finished the previous season

So the Titans had the worse record. So they were first pick. They traded out because they felt they'd achieve more with more picks further down the draft instead of taking Laremy Tunsil and only really strengthening that position. And the Rams traded up as they've just moved to LA and currently have an average QB. They need a face of the franchise so are probably gonna choose Goff.

The Titans now have 5 picks in the top 75 (or so) which means they can seriously strengthen their team. Same as for the Browns. They are so inadequate at so many places, it benefits them to take more picks rather than a top pick.

[Cavey007]

I've actually got all my draft 'knowledge' from listening mainly to the nfl.com podcasts. Dj and Bucky are very good and have had 3 or 4 a week over the last few weeks. The fantasy live podcast is a decent listen too. Around the nfl and Dameshek are both good for a laugh with the idea of talking football.

Then got the fantasy football guys. The fantasy footballers and footballguys.com all of whom offer varying knowledge and are either humorous or just plain random. Either way a good listen.