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Re: NFL 2017-18 season
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September 12, 2017, 09:33:23 AM »
why the nfl has so many bad offenses?
Defenses keep getting faster
Offensive lines keep getting worse, (and some stay bad for a long time. seattle? giants? bengals? texans? not many attempts to draft lots of linemen in that lot) and probably talent evaluation out of college at OL isn't very good
good QBs are extremely hard to find. there aren't 20 good enough in the league currently, at least half a dozen teams in quarterback hell winning enough that they can't draft high enough to get the likes or rosen or darnold next year (Jets and 49ers might have a shot at them)
the CBA prevents the volume of practice in pre-season and between games to get offesnese into synch
the salary cap means rosters stay young and experienced players are often moved on. continuity from one season to the next is difficult
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September 12, 2017, 06:08:03 PM »
Not much to discuss on that, think you've nailed it tbh. - You have to pay up for an offensive line or you end up with your QB getting sacked 10 times, or throwing 5 Interceptions. - Also agree with the CBA not allowing full practises, or enough practises to get up to speed.
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Not enough full backs or tight ends cut blocking in pass protection.Top pass rushers get too much respect perfectly legal to low block bull and edge rushers.
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September 13, 2017, 12:25:56 AM »
Could add to that the defence coaches catching up to all the rule changes over the years that have helped the offence
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September 15, 2017, 08:04:46 PM »
Unsurprisingly after becoming the first team since 1939 to open with 2 home games and fail to score a TD, the Bengals have fired Ken Zampese, a shame for him as he's been there since 2003, but the offense has so much talent and has looked anemic. Replaced by the QB coach who used to be the OC in Miami
They must have seen my video from this morning saying he's got to go. -
https://twitter.com/NFL_Talk_UK/status/908590900456148992
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if they had a half competent offense they'd be 2-0 now.
lots of skillposition talent but no OL and a skittish qb.
it beggars belief, see also giants, texans, that they left the OL unimproved in the off-season. Free agency prices high (susprise surprise, demand exceeds supply) so they relied on the youngsters being coached up.
at least the seahawks tried to change theirs, drafted one,recruited one
and the vikings spent $$$$ overhauling their so far so good
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Quote from: TightEnd on September 16, 2017, 09:05:29 AM
if they had a half competent offense they'd be 2-0 now.
lots of skillposition talent but no OL and a skittish qb.
it beggars belief, see also giants, texans, that they left the OL unimproved in the off-season. Free agency prices high (susprise surprise, demand exceeds supply) so they relied on the youngsters being coached up.
at least the seahawks tried to change theirs, drafted one,recruited one
and the vikings spent $$$$ overhauling their so far so good
It is genuinely incredible the arrogance of teams who think they can get by with a weak OL. It might well cost AJ Green a Hall of Fame place, as he's borderline at best and the last few years of his career need to be good ones. It can't happen if Dalton is getting clobbered every play.
I'm starting to think Cleveland might finish 2nd in the North now...
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September 21, 2017, 01:08:21 PM »
NFL’s London games have never matched teams with winning records
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An interesting response to Richard Sherman's NFL injury report/gambling comments (it only exists so Vegas can get its lines right, shouldn't exist), per The Greek’s Scott Kaminsky
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Quote from: TightEnd on September 21, 2017, 01:08:21 PM
NFL’s London games have never matched teams with winning records
http://dlvr.it/PpTQjR
90% or more of people going to the games don't care.
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Aaron Hernandez had stage 3 CTE when he died.
He had only played 84 college/NFL games.
I don't think American Football as we know it will exist in 20 years time.
I think the rules will be modified in some way to avoid so many head injuries.
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Quote from: The Camel on September 21, 2017, 10:50:00 PM
Aaron Hernandez had stage 3 CTE when he died.
He had only played 84 college/NFL games.
I don't think American Football as we know it will exist in 20 years time.
I think the rules will be modified in some way to avoid so many head injuries.
It's a tough one as 200-250lb men will always break arm tackles
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Quote from: Stopsleyhatter on September 21, 2017, 11:45:19 PM
Quote from: The Camel on September 21, 2017, 10:50:00 PM
Aaron Hernandez had stage 3 CTE when he died.
He had only played 84 college/NFL games.
I don't think American Football as we know it will exist in 20 years time.
I think the rules will be modified in some way to avoid so many head injuries.
It's a tough one as 200-250lb men will always break arm tackles
Seems like a very high proportion of players are suffering bad side effects.
Once the league has been sued multiple times they will act. No doubt in my mind.
They don't care about the welfare of the players, but they certtainly care about money.
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September 22, 2017, 09:27:27 AM »
Quote from: The Camel on September 22, 2017, 12:39:46 AM
Quote from: Stopsleyhatter on September 21, 2017, 11:45:19 PM
Quote from: The Camel on September 21, 2017, 10:50:00 PM
Aaron Hernandez had stage 3 CTE when he died.
He had only played 84 college/NFL games.
I don't think American Football as we know it will exist in 20 years time.
I think the rules will be modified in some way to avoid so many head injuries.
It's a tough one as 200-250lb men will always break arm tackles
Seems like a very high proportion of players are suffering bad side effects.
Once the league has been sued multiple times they will act. No doubt in my mind.
They don't care about the welfare of the players, but they certtainly care about money.
The players care about the money too, though, surely.
Say to any 18 or 20 year old aspiring NFL player "you could earn up to $10 milly per year for 10 years, but you might end up with brain damage or in a wheelchair", do you really think the lad is gonna turn down the chance to be a Pro football player?
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