NFL Thread 2018/19

[Tal]

1. Darnold
2. Allen
3. Mayfield

Is 25/1 with SkyBet as a treble if that appeals, Tighty, on that logic.

[Tal]

Are running backs devalued in the draft?

http://www.profootballweekly.com/2018/04/07/nfl-draft-are-rbs-really-devalued-quite-the-opposite-actually/a610fvr/

[Ironside]

eagles@jags on the 28th tickets go on sale the 1st of may

[Cavey007]

Looking forward to seeing what Rich has got for the draft because frankly I can't read it at the moment.

365 have o/u on player positions.

Best I've got now is lumping on o1.5 rbs in the first round at 1/2 and even then I'm not too confident

[Tal]

Looking forward to seeing what Rich has got for the draft because frankly I can't read it at the moment.

365 have o/u on player positions.

Best I've got now is lumping on o1.5 rbs in the first round at 1/2 and even then I'm not too confident

Running back is a guess, really, as there are 2 or 3 who could go 28-40.

Saquon position under 4.5 is 2/5 with Bet £3.65. It's an awful bit of pricing, though getting on is a challenge. Should be 1/4 and maybe shorter.

Lamar Jackson under 17.5 is 6/5. That feels a little generous.

I bet under 3.5 WRs at Evs a few weeks ago with Betstars. You can now get over 2.5 at 6/5 (shows how bad that price was), so there's an angle for me to play the middle. Tempting and I might just do that in the week.

Tighty's betting preview is up, btw.

http://www.bettingemporium.com/tips/index/217

[TightEnd]

Lamar Jackson under 17.5 is 6/5. That feels a little generous.

hugely generous i thought. it is a sky request a bet special at 6/4 or was

How does he get past Arizona at 15?

he can't.

[Tal]

Lamar Jackson under 17.5 is 6/5. That feels a little generous.

hugely generous i thought. it is a sky request a bet special at 6/4 or was

How does he get past Arizona at 15?

he can't.

The 6/5 is 365 - just an ordinary prop, which they've put up without prompt. Genuinely remarkable.

And he can't, can he? I'd love the Pats to take him (taking my Bills hat off for a second)

[Tal]

I also love Moore, Tighty, but you have to find out why Baltimore taking Calvin Ridley either doesn't happen (say they go Hayden Hurst) or happens after someone else has taken Moore. Obviously, the offer is fab, from a betting perspective.

I'm a big fan of Hurst. Looking at the Baltimore, New Orleans, Jacksonville, New England area and the fit at tight end is Hurst, in my view.

Do listen to the Around the NFL podcast. Their "you are the GM" segment remains one of the best each year. The John Elway hold music managed to make me laugh...even on the way home from wembley.

[TightEnd]

Ozzie newsome has been burnt at WR

could go OT, DT, Safety, linebacker

if 5 QBs do go top 15 then someone better than Ridley is being pushed down 

i don't think there has been as weak a WR class for a while and these guys can't really seperate against man coverage either

[TightEnd]

tight end

reminds me of the engram/howard thing

howard is the better traditional tight end, Engram suits the modern NFL more

same for goedert/Hurst

[Tal]

Ozzie newsome has been burnt at WR

could go OT, DT, Safety, linebacker

if 5 QBs do go top 15 then someone better than Ridley is being pushed down 

i don't think there has been as weak a WR class for a while and these guys can't really seperate against man coverage either

The number one thing I look for now in WRs. The Raiders have been torched by picking guys who can't break coverage. Zay Jones in Buffalo and so on. Being quick isn't enough.

[TightEnd]

Ozzie newsome has been burnt at WR

could go OT, DT, Safety, linebacker

if 5 QBs do go top 15 then someone better than Ridley is being pushed down

i don't think there has been as weak a WR class for a while and these guys can't really seperate against man coverage either

The number one thing I look for now in WRs. The Raiders have been torched by picking guys who can't break coverage. Zay Jones in Buffalo and so on. Being quick isn't enough.

Ravens signings of Crabtree and Brown and its not as desperate as it was.

The Ravens desperately need a slot receiver

nfl going for smaller nippier guys who can get open...receiving backs and slot guys

Ravens signed Woodhead for this and he lasted a few games and that was it

Moore at 6.75 looked value, and non consensus!

[Tal]

tight end

reminds me of the engram/howard thing

howard is the better traditional tight end, Engram suits the modern NFL more

same for goedert/Hurst

Something in that for sure.

Hurst is a new Dennis Pitta or (dare I say it) Aaron Hernandez. Engram is a more dramatically different TE in that he's a TE/WR hybrid.

All TEs take a year or two to learn the system and get used to the many demands of the role. Hurst will be the fastest learner IMO, being a little older, having been through a similar system with the Pittsburgh Pirates and given his skillset.

He's ideal for a "win now" team.

[Tal]

Ozzie newsome has been burnt at WR

could go OT, DT, Safety, linebacker

if 5 QBs do go top 15 then someone better than Ridley is being pushed down

i don't think there has been as weak a WR class for a while and these guys can't really seperate against man coverage either

The number one thing I look for now in WRs. The Raiders have been torched by picking guys who can't break coverage. Zay Jones in Buffalo and so on. Being quick isn't enough.

Ravens signings of Crabtree and Brown and its not as desperate as it was.

The Ravens desperately need a slot receiver

nfl going for smaller nippier guys who can get open...receiving backs and slot guys

Ravens signed Woodhead for this and he lasted a few games and that was it

Moore at 6.75 looked value, and non consensus!

6.75 is a huge price for who I think is the best WR prospect in terms of ceiling.

I like Sutton's size, but that's not enough these days.

Like you, I wonder whether we see one or fewer WRs in the 1st round. That's what's stopping me from betting over 2.5 and closing the position.

So many good players in that 25-40 range who wouldn't be a reach for a team in that area. Seems crazy to me that Mason Rudolph could go before Harold Landry or Sam Hubbard has to wait for Courtland Sutton to get his jersey from the Commissioner.

[Tal]

On the DBacks, would your answer be different if you knew Derwin James is 4/1 with Betwahey?

He is one of my favourite players in the draft. All three (Fitpatrick, Ward and James) are pro bowlers, though.

The hybrid player is definitely the immediate future of the NFL