COVID19

[Ironside]

Sweden: 9,995,153            https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/selected-deaths-vs-covid-19-sweden
Denmark: 5,748,769          https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/selected-deaths-vs-covid-19-denmark
Finland: 5,474,083             https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/selected-deaths-vs-covid-19-finland
Norway: 5,258,317            https://www.worldlifeexpectancy.com/selected-deaths-vs-covid-19-norway

[Marky147]

I don't like him, but I don't think he meant that.

But he is massively wrong on the maths:

This is a short term study for a few weeks not long after vaccine so:

the vaccine effect won't be at its strongest, so some people will not be fully protected

some people are likely to have caught Covid prior to vaccination

looking at lives saved over a few weeks is not the same as looking at lives saved over a lifetime.

In addition, his estimated vaccine cost is too high for Pfizer and massively exaggerated if we include Astra Zeneca too

So his estimate of the cost of one life saved is massively exaggerated, just like it was last time he did it.  It is almost as if he is deliberately misinforming people for cash, over and again.

Hoped I had the wrong end of the stick, and glad that's the case.

No shock it was him being snide, though.

[Marky147]

So my friend is obsessed with how the Swedish Corona strategy has crushed the strategy of other countries in Western Europe. He is really going down with the ship on this one.

At this point i am pretty much done with talking to him about it, but i see lots of links posted on here and people talking about Sweden in the past months.

Anybody got a link or two with a comprehensive summary of the subject from solid sources, publications that i can just send to him. Surely it is widely acknowledged by now that the Swedish method was a mistake? But i am no expert of course.

Ask him how they compare against the other scandinavian countries.

[Marky147]

Joel Smalley, who I think was one of Toby's gang that also deleted all his tweets last year when he was shown to have gotten everything as wrong as he could have done?

Now he's back, and on the Red Bulls - https://twitter.com/_johnbye/status/1365650856566263809

[Marky147]

https://hitchensblog.mailonsunday.co.uk/2021/02/peter-hitchens-ive-had-the-covid-jab-and-all-it-cost-me-was-my-freedom.html

The smiley mob that had been lauding Hitchens have gone bananas:D

[Doobs]

Joel Smalley, who I think was one of Toby's gang that also deleted all his tweets last year when he was shown to have gotten everything as wrong as he could have done?

Now he's back, and on the Red Bulls - https://twitter.com/_johnbye/status/1365650856566263809

Another one who is attempting to do statistics beyond his ability.  A touch cheeky to label your chart as ONS when you have just made up the numbers.

[Marky147]

Joel Smalley, who I think was one of Toby's gang that also deleted all his tweets last year when he was shown to have gotten everything as wrong as he could have done?

Now he's back, and on the Red Bulls - https://twitter.com/_johnbye/status/1365650856566263809

Another one who is attempting to do statistics beyond his ability.  A touch cheeky to label your chart as ONS when you have just made up the numbers.

John Roberts tagged the head of mortality from ONS, and she clarified it was nothing to do with them.

https://twitter.com/john_actuary/status/1365655050505383939

[Doobs]

Joel Smalley, who I think was one of Toby's gang that also deleted all his tweets last year when he was shown to have gotten everything as wrong as he could have done?

Now he's back, and on the Red Bulls - https://twitter.com/_johnbye/status/1365650856566263809

Another one who is attempting to do statistics beyond his ability.  A touch cheeky to label your chart as ONS when you have just made up the numbers.

John Roberts tagged the head of mortality from ONS, and she clarified it was nothing to do with them.

https://twitter.com/john_actuary/status/1365655050505383939

and then Joe Smalley blocked him rather than take down the incorrect reference to the ONS.   Think Joe Smalley isn't one for issuing corrections. 

[StuartHopkin]

6,035 was a nice number to see today!

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[Marky147]

Joel Smalley, who I think was one of Toby's gang that also deleted all his tweets last year when he was shown to have gotten everything as wrong as he could have done?

Now he's back, and on the Red Bulls - https://twitter.com/_johnbye/status/1365650856566263809

Another one who is attempting to do statistics beyond his ability.  A touch cheeky to label your chart as ONS when you have just made up the numbers.

John Roberts tagged the head of mortality from ONS, and she clarified it was nothing to do with them.

https://twitter.com/john_actuary/status/1365655050505383939

and then Joe Smalley blocked him rather than take down the incorrect reference to the ONS.   Think Joe Smalley isn't one for issuing corrections. 

Surprising 

[Marky147]

6,035 was a nice number to see today!

Click to see full-size image.

[Doobs]

6,035 was a nice number to see today!

Click to see full-size image.

Yep, it is continuing again today, cases seem to have dropped noticeably again.

The trend in deaths is still really strong into this week.  I guessed we'd see some levelling off, but they are still falling rapidly.  The seasonal split wave has effects just like you'd expect from a lockdown and vaccination for at risk groups :/

[Marky147]

https://twitter.com/sailorrooscout/status/1366742151351132168

Good thread here on why the vaccines should be good against any VoC.

Cliffs - Media are shameless as ever

[Doobs]

Missed this a couple of days ago.

Covid mortality halving weekly amongst the elderly.  More evidence of the success of the vaccine program.



[url]https://mobile.twitter.com/d_spiegel/status/1366065665619165186[url]

[Marky147]

Clare Craig going full tinfoil mode now, not happy with just peddling nonsense

COVID deaths are replacing deaths from other causes in the data.

Since 15th Jan, 37% of COVID labelled deaths were misattributed non-COVID deaths.

In week ending 19th Feb it was nearly half of COVID labelled deaths.