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« Reply #765 on: March 26, 2020, 12:51:22 AM »

Does anyone else have a holiday booked for within the next 3 months?

We are booked for Gran Canaria in May and the total for us was around £1500. It was booked through TUI and they haven't been great about the holiday (when we booked). They are apparently offering refunds or vouchers, but should they be willing to add more onto the voucher (if needed) for another holiday. The alternative holiday in November was like £175 more.

In other news hotels being pretty decent about bookings and Airport lounges we booked have been fully refunded.
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« Reply #766 on: March 26, 2020, 02:43:07 AM »

Does anyone else have a holiday booked for within the next 3 months?

We are booked for Gran Canaria in May and the total for us was around £1500. It was booked through TUI and they haven't been great about the holiday (when we booked). They are apparently offering refunds or vouchers, but should they be willing to add more onto the voucher (if needed) for another holiday. The alternative holiday in November was like £175 more.

In other news hotels being pretty decent about bookings and Airport lounges we booked have been fully refunded.

I think I'd be happy to get my money back and use it towards another holiday, I wouldn't even ask for any compensation, would just pull the £175 out of my pocket and just enjoy the holiday.

I've got flights & hotels booked for Vegas in June, but even if we can travel, I'm thinking of paying to change my flight to December when we're hopefully well on the other side of things.

One room I have booked through holidayusa, and have to pay an admin fee to change, so will just do that if I can. The rest I can all cancel, and just have to hope the deals I can get will be as good for Cosmo/Wynn in Dec.
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« Reply #767 on: March 26, 2020, 03:27:56 AM »

Ashley Young's take on things in Italy - https://twitter.com/youngy18/status/1242531398826811393
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« Reply #768 on: March 26, 2020, 07:11:55 AM »

Does anyone else have a holiday booked for within the next 3 months?

We are booked for Gran Canaria in May and the total for us was around £1500. It was booked through TUI and they haven't been great about the holiday (when we booked). They are apparently offering refunds or vouchers, but should they be willing to add more onto the voucher (if needed) for another holiday. The alternative holiday in November was like £175 more.

In other news hotels being pretty decent about bookings and Airport lounges we booked have been fully refunded.

No they shouldnt have to add to the voucher!
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« Reply #769 on: March 26, 2020, 09:49:06 AM »

It’s hard to believe that they only did 2355 tests yesterday. The attempts to manipulate the numbers continue to go unchallenged. They do hardly any tests, it’s pointed out to them, so Boris says we’ll do “10,000” tests every day. They keep doing hardly any tests so Boris says we’ll “25,000” tests every day, a very Trumpesque approach.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eTKeK9vRxgw0KhvKxPCaDrfaHnxQP-n9TsLzsEymviY/htmlview

Yesterday we went full North Korea on the numbers. Started briefing their preferred media outlets that England had 28 deaths in the last 24 hours at the end of the press conference. Waited until midnight for the DHSC to announce these numbers are not for 24 hours, no indication of what period they did cover. What are they expecting people to think happened for the numbers to drop like that?



[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20


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« Reply #770 on: March 26, 2020, 09:58:14 AM »

It’s hard to believe that they only did 2355 tests yesterday. The attempts to manipulate the numbers continue to go unchallenged. They do hardly any tests, it’s pointed out to them, so Boris says we’ll do “10,000” tests every day. They keep doing hardly any tests so Boris says we’ll “25,000” tests every day, a very Trumpesque approach.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eTKeK9vRxgw0KhvKxPCaDrfaHnxQP-n9TsLzsEymviY/htmlview

Yesterday we went full North Korea on the numbers. Started briefing their preferred media outlets that England had 28 deaths in the last 24 hours at the end of the press conference. Waited until midnight for the DHSC to announce these numbers are not for 24 hours, no indication of what period they did cover. What are they expecting people to think happened for the numbers to drop like that?

https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20



The point being that if they want people to take instruction to lockdown seriously, then misrepresenting deaths will not help. Twitter/FB indicates that plenty of people think yesterday’s numbers mean the measures have worked and we have seen it off. We hadn’t take any measures in the relevant period other than “sing happy birthday while you wash your hands”.
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« Reply #771 on: March 26, 2020, 10:03:42 AM »

It’s hard to believe that they only did 2355 tests yesterday. The attempts to manipulate the numbers continue to go unchallenged. They do hardly any tests, it’s pointed out to them, so Boris says we’ll do “10,000” tests every day. They keep doing hardly any tests so Boris says we’ll “25,000” tests every day, a very Trumpesque approach.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eTKeK9vRxgw0KhvKxPCaDrfaHnxQP-n9TsLzsEymviY/htmlview

Yesterday we went full North Korea on the numbers. Started briefing their preferred media outlets that England had 28 deaths in the last 24 hours at the end of the press conference. Waited until midnight for the DHSC to announce these numbers are not for 24 hours, no indication of what period they did cover. What are they expecting people to think happened for the numbers to drop like that?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20



The point being that if they want people to take instruction to lockdown seriously, then misrepresenting deaths will not help. Twitter/FB indicates that plenty of people think yesterday’s numbers mean the measures have worked and we have seen it off. We hadn’t take any measures in the relevant period other than “sing happy birthday while you wash your hands”.

Any good news?
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« Reply #772 on: March 26, 2020, 10:10:15 AM »

It’s hard to believe that they only did 2355 tests yesterday. The attempts to manipulate the numbers continue to go unchallenged. They do hardly any tests, it’s pointed out to them, so Boris says we’ll do “10,000” tests every day. They keep doing hardly any tests so Boris says we’ll “25,000” tests every day, a very Trumpesque approach.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eTKeK9vRxgw0KhvKxPCaDrfaHnxQP-n9TsLzsEymviY/htmlview

Yesterday we went full North Korea on the numbers. Started briefing their preferred media outlets that England had 28 deaths in the last 24 hours at the end of the press conference. Waited until midnight for the DHSC to announce these numbers are not for 24 hours, no indication of what period they did cover. What are they expecting people to think happened for the numbers to drop like that?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url=http://[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20



The point being that if they want people to take instruction to lockdown seriously, then misrepresenting deaths will not help. Twitter/FB indicates that plenty of people think yesterday’s numbers mean the measures have worked and we have seen it off. We hadn’t take any measures in the relevant period other than “sing happy birthday while you wash your hands”.

Any good news?

I definitely screwed up the quoting, revealing my incompetence once again, some may view that as good news 😊. Only the top two links are still relevant, apologies for any confusion. I’m other news, my treatment will be delayed until the far side of the first C19 peak, a blow to morale but has to be the right call.
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« Reply #773 on: March 26, 2020, 10:14:43 AM »

It’s hard to believe that they only did 2355 tests yesterday. The attempts to manipulate the numbers continue to go unchallenged. They do hardly any tests, it’s pointed out to them, so Boris says we’ll do “10,000” tests every day. They keep doing hardly any tests so Boris says we’ll “25,000” tests every day, a very Trumpesque approach.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eTKeK9vRxgw0KhvKxPCaDrfaHnxQP-n9TsLzsEymviY/htmlview

Yesterday we went full North Korea on the numbers. Started briefing their preferred media outlets that England had 28 deaths in the last 24 hours at the end of the press conference. Waited until midnight for the DHSC to announce these numbers are not for 24 hours, no indication of what period they did cover. What are they expecting people to think happened for the numbers to drop like that?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url=http://[url=https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20



The point being that if they want people to take instruction to lockdown seriously, then misrepresenting deaths will not help. Twitter/FB indicates that plenty of people think yesterday’s numbers mean the measures have worked and we have seen it off. We hadn’t take any measures in the relevant period other than “sing happy birthday while you wash your hands”.

Any good news?

I definitely screwed up the quoting, revealing my incompetence once again, some may view that as good news 😊. Only the top two links are still relevant, apologies for any confusion. I’m other news, my treatment will be delayed until the far side of the first C19 peak, a blow to morale but has to be the right call.

Yeah, fingers crossed with that, one of my elderly relatives has had a bad knee op cancelled, bad news for her because of lack of mobility but was always going to happen  Sad
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« Reply #774 on: March 26, 2020, 10:17:05 AM »

Just ordered a lump from a takeaway with as much precaution as possible getting the food in, do we think the risk is reasonable if we are avoiding touching the external packaging?

I have read in many outlets that the maximum time that the virus can survive on an object is 48 hours. Not helpful in your case, but maybe for people receiving items through the post. But this is a worry when shopping too, how many times has someone touched the item you're going to pick up?

It is different to say that they can pick up the virus from a hard object 48 hours later in a lab than to say they can pick it up from a takeaway bag.

In countries like Singapore and South Korea, where contract tracing is more prevalent they can account for most of the cases are from human to human transmission.   In Wuhan people were still eating and they stopped, or near stopped, the spread.   So I think it is safe to say very few people are getting COVID from objects.

I'd just practice good hygiene.  Wash your hands with soap before dishing out the food and get rid of the packaging, and wash them again before eating.  

My missus is insisting on wiping everything that comes through the door, but I suspect this is going too far, and probably isn't that great anyway.  If it makes her happy, I don't really care.  I think we'd be better not getting all the stuff she is having delivered, but ho hum.  The kids really don't need anymore educational toys to ignore, and they really don't need them in the next few weeks.
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« Reply #775 on: March 26, 2020, 10:20:22 AM »

Just ordered a lump from a takeaway with as much precaution as possible getting the food in, do we think the risk is reasonable if we are avoiding touching the external packaging?

I have read in many outlets that the maximum time that the virus can survive on an object is 48 hours. Not helpful in your case, but maybe for people receiving items through the post. But this is a worry when shopping too, how many times has someone touched the item you're going to pick up?

It is different to say that they can pick up the virus from a hard object 48 hours later in a lab than to say they can pick it up from a takeaway bag.

In countries like Singapore and South Korea, where contract tracing is more prevalent they can account for most of the cases are from human to human transmission.   In Wuhan people were still eating and they stopped, or near stopped, the spread.   So I think it is safe to say very few people are getting COVID from objects.

I'd just practice good hygiene.  Wash your hands with soap before dishing out the food and get rid of the packaging, and wash them again before eating.  

My missus is insisting on wiping everything that comes through the door, but I suspect this is going too far, and probably isn't that great anyway.  If it makes her happy, I don't really care.  I think we'd be better not getting all the stuff she is having delivered, but ho hum.  The kids really don't need anymore educational toys to ignore, and they really don't need them in the next few weeks.

Actually we didn’t even touch the packaging, and the packaging didn’t even touch a surface in the house, we just emptied the food out and slung the boxes.
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« Reply #776 on: March 26, 2020, 10:23:38 AM »

Does anyone else have a holiday booked for within the next 3 months?

We are booked for Gran Canaria in May and the total for us was around £1500. It was booked through TUI and they haven't been great about the holiday (when we booked). They are apparently offering refunds or vouchers, but should they be willing to add more onto the voucher (if needed) for another holiday. The alternative holiday in November was like £175 more.

In other news hotels being pretty decent about bookings and Airport lounges we booked have been fully refunded.

Also going Gran Canaria but not until mid June (should have been going to Vegas  Cry Cry ), think it's a flip if mine goes ahead or not.

TUI have no obligation to top up your voucher, they are allowing free amendments for anyone booked to travel before June 30th but naturally you'll have to pay the difference in cost between original and new booking. £175 for peace of mind doesn't seem like too much to pay.

You could always wait it out and make a late decision on it, on the off chance Spain really improves in April.
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« Reply #777 on: March 26, 2020, 10:27:12 AM »

Does anyone else have a holiday booked for within the next 3 months?

We are booked for Gran Canaria in May and the total for us was around £1500. It was booked through TUI and they haven't been great about the holiday (when we booked). They are apparently offering refunds or vouchers, but should they be willing to add more onto the voucher (if needed) for another holiday. The alternative holiday in November was like £175 more.

In other news hotels being pretty decent about bookings and Airport lounges we booked have been fully refunded.

Also going Gran Canaria but not until mid June (should have been going to Vegas  Cry Cry ), think it's a flip if mine goes ahead or not.

TUI have no obligation to top up your voucher, they are allowing free amendments for anyone booked to travel before June 30th but naturally you'll have to pay the difference in cost between original and new booking. £175 for peace of mind doesn't seem like too much to pay.

You could always wait it out and make a late decision on it, on the off chance Spain really improves in April.

Flip? I think your chances are at best 10% and that’s being generous.....I’ve pretty much written off holidays for this year, if something does open up at the back end of the year then so be it.
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« Reply #778 on: March 26, 2020, 10:27:47 AM »

It’s hard to believe that they only did 2355 tests yesterday. The attempts to manipulate the numbers continue to go unchallenged. They do hardly any tests, it’s pointed out to them, so Boris says we’ll do “10,000” tests every day. They keep doing hardly any tests so Boris says we’ll “25,000” tests every day, a very Trumpesque approach.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1eTKeK9vRxgw0KhvKxPCaDrfaHnxQP-n9TsLzsEymviY/htmlview

Yesterday we went full North Korea on the numbers. Started briefing their preferred media outlets that England had 28 deaths in the last 24 hours at the end of the press conference. Waited until midnight for the DHSC to announce these numbers are not for 24 hours, no indication of what period they did cover. What are they expecting people to think happened for the numbers to drop like that?

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20] https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/news.sky.com/story/amp/coronavirus-uk-death-toll-reaches-435-after-rise-in-scotland-and-wales-11963431[url]

[url] https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1242950122981470208?s=20



The point being that if they want people to take instruction to lockdown seriously, then misrepresenting deaths will not help. Twitter/FB indicates that plenty of people think yesterday’s numbers mean the measures have worked and we have seen it off. We hadn’t take any measures in the relevant period other than “sing happy birthday while you wash your hands”.

It seems a stretch that they are deliverately misrepresenting stats.   The DHSC said it wasn't the full 24 hours in their twitter release.  It is easy for others to miss and accidentally misrepresent it.

If it carries on, then worry about it, it is more likely that something broke in their reporting process and they didn't have time to fix it.

I am not saying that Dom doesn't like to misrepresent things, he clearly does, but right now I don't think there is much evidence that they are trying to underplay the seriousness of this.
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« Reply #779 on: March 26, 2020, 10:32:30 AM »

Does anyone else have a holiday booked for within the next 3 months?

We are booked for Gran Canaria in May and the total for us was around £1500. It was booked through TUI and they haven't been great about the holiday (when we booked). They are apparently offering refunds or vouchers, but should they be willing to add more onto the voucher (if needed) for another holiday. The alternative holiday in November was like £175 more.

In other news hotels being pretty decent about bookings and Airport lounges we booked have been fully refunded.

Also going Gran Canaria but not until mid June (should have been going to Vegas  Cry Cry ), think it's a flip if mine goes ahead or not.

TUI have no obligation to top up your voucher, they are allowing free amendments for anyone booked to travel before June 30th but naturally you'll have to pay the difference in cost between original and new booking. £175 for peace of mind doesn't seem like too much to pay.

You could always wait it out and make a late decision on it, on the off chance Spain really improves in April.

Flip? I think your chances are at best 10% and that’s being generous.....I’ve pretty much written off holidays for this year, if something does open up at the back end of the year then so be it. Cheers

I am booked for August and struggle to get to 50%.  I'd go about 10% at best for June.  My eldest had a school trip planned for April, they have rescheduled it for October half term and they want to know ASAP if she is going.   Cheers for that.  She is already grumpy that the first one went, but how the heck can we decide that now?  
  
edit.  The trip is to the Netherlands by coach and not to the local park
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