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« Reply #1575 on: April 20, 2020, 07:31:32 PM »

I watched Tony Blair interviewed by Victoria Derbyshire.

He was a class act (don’t say that very often).

Derbyshire was desperate to make headlines by constantly trying to get Blair to criticise the Government but he rose above it.

I am sick of watching aggressive journalists/interviewers wanted to create headlines especially in a national crisis.

Andrew Neil did it with Corbyn during the election. 

The daily questions at the press conferences are becoming a points scoring/ headline creating game rather than offering sensible criticism or questioning of the Government.

At least Blair recognised now was not the time for those games.
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« Reply #1576 on: April 20, 2020, 07:53:39 PM »

I watched Tony Blair interviewed by Victoria Derbyshire.

He was a class act (don’t say that very often).

Derbyshire was desperate to make headlines by constantly trying to get Blair to criticise the Government but he rose above it.

I am sick of watching aggressive journalists/interviewers wanted to create headlines especially in a national crisis.

Andrew Neil did it with Corbyn during the election. 

The daily questions at the press conferences are becoming a points scoring/ headline creating game rather than offering sensible criticism or questioning of the Government.

At least Blair recognised now was not the time for those games.

The other thing he did, which I thought was praiseworthy, was acknowledge that this is more difficult than anything he had to deal with as PM.
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« Reply #1577 on: April 20, 2020, 09:07:22 PM »

Some mad effects from Covid.  Who predicted negative oil prices? 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52350082
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« Reply #1578 on: April 20, 2020, 09:14:10 PM »

Some mad effects from Covid.  Who predicted negative oil prices? 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52350082

Just been looking at this to maybe shift some investments into that sector..... 
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« Reply #1579 on: April 20, 2020, 09:43:42 PM »

Some mad effects from Covid.  Who predicted negative oil prices? 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52350082

Just been looking at this to maybe shift some investments into that sector..... 

One of my few recent "successes" was to reduce my oil investments.  Some of it was by choice and Covid has definitely helped with reducing the size of the remainder...

 Success these days is measured by not losing half your money invested.   Find myself going oooh that one is only down 25%, that isn't too bad. 

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« Reply #1580 on: April 20, 2020, 10:07:11 PM »


This is a bit surreal. The Sun follows the FT and Sunday Times in getting the rebuttal treatment, this time directly from the civil service, rather than ‘a spokesman for the PM’ using their website:

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/phe-response-to-a-sun-newspaper-column

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« Reply #1581 on: April 20, 2020, 10:19:43 PM »

Some mad effects from Covid.  Who predicted negative oil prices? 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52350082

Just been looking at this to maybe shift some investments into that sector..... 

One of my few recent "successes" was to reduce my oil investments.  Some of it was by choice and Covid has definitely helped with reducing the size of the remainder...

 Success these days is measured by not losing half your money invested.   Find myself going oooh that one is only down 25%, that isn't too bad. 



I'm finding the general stock market surreal at the moment, after the initial significant drops there's been quite a rally. This comes on the tail of a very long bull run so some sort of correction without covid was on the cards. Indices are more or less at levels seen about a year ago.

I'm amazed at how it's stayed so high, winter has come, it's hard to imagine a worse economic climate by all normal reason and valuations are still really high imo. Trump, and his talk of opening up the US economy in short order, is probably the difference in terms of propping up stock markets.

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« Reply #1582 on: April 20, 2020, 10:24:26 PM »


This is a bit surreal. The Sun follows the FT and Sunday Times in getting the rebuttal treatment, this time directly from the civil service, rather than ‘a spokesman for the PM’ using their website:

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/phe-response-to-a-sun-newspaper-column



I think all of the "official" responses tend to be from a related spokesperson to the subject. When the government was being criticised it had a government response with PHE being criticised it was a PHE response. At least there's was a lot easier as the Sun don't appear to have bothered with any basic fact checking.

It does seem like they might be going for a more aggressive approach to misrepresentation though - there could be some behavioural analysis in that as well - it would be a bad time for the general public to lose confidence in the 'establishment'
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« Reply #1583 on: April 20, 2020, 10:46:00 PM »


This is a bit surreal. The Sun follows the FT and Sunday Times in getting the rebuttal treatment, this time directly from the civil service, rather than ‘a spokesman for the PM’ using their website:

https://www.gov.uk/government/news/phe-response-to-a-sun-newspaper-column



I think all of the "official" responses tend to be from a related spokesperson to the subject. When the government was being criticised it had a government response with PHE being criticised it was a PHE response. At least there's was a lot easier as the Sun don't appear to have bothered with any basic fact checking.

It does seem like they might be going for a more aggressive approach to misrepresentation though - there could be some behavioural analysis in that as well - it would be a bad time for the general public to lose confidence in the 'establishment'

To be fair to PHE, their rebuttal seems a lot better than Dom's one this morning.
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« Reply #1584 on: April 21, 2020, 12:18:23 AM »

Some mad effects from Covid.  Who predicted negative oil prices? 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52350082

Just been looking at this to maybe shift some investments into that sector..... 

One of my few recent "successes" was to reduce my oil investments.  Some of it was by choice and Covid has definitely helped with reducing the size of the remainder...

 Success these days is measured by not losing half your money invested.   Find myself going oooh that one is only down 25%, that isn't too bad. 



Logically, when some degree of “normality” returns, consumption will increase, the price of oil will return to $50 plus a barrel?

Going to be more short term pain though with very limited demand and storage capacity almost full. Producers surely need to cut production further.

Might take 9-12 months to get there but I was listened to an economist this week who expects a bounce in a price in a reasonable timescale.
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« Reply #1585 on: April 21, 2020, 12:24:55 AM »

Some mad effects from Covid.  Who predicted negative oil prices? 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-52350082

Just been looking at this to maybe shift some investments into that sector..... 

One of my few recent "successes" was to reduce my oil investments.  Some of it was by choice and Covid has definitely helped with reducing the size of the remainder...

 Success these days is measured by not losing half your money invested.   Find myself going oooh that one is only down 25%, that isn't too bad. 



Logically, when some degree of “normality” returns, consumption will increase, the price of oil will return to $50 plus a barrel?

Going to be more short term pain though with very limited demand and storage capacity almost full. Producers surely need to cut production further.

Might take 9-12 months to get there but I was listened to an economist this week who expects a bounce in a price in a reasonable timescale.

I have heard something similar too.   The theory I heard was that this will result in loss of supply; some wells, fields and infrastructure will become uneconomic and shut resulting in reduced supply when the World bounces back.
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« Reply #1586 on: April 21, 2020, 12:41:03 PM »


This guy seems to have lots of sensible things to say, mainly on trade (some of which is over my head) but this excerpt hits a ‘topical’ nail on the head:

https://twitter.com/davidheniguk/status/1252490203543015428?s=21
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« Reply #1587 on: April 21, 2020, 03:33:03 PM »

Some might like messing about with this -

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/covid-19-curves-compare-canada-and-other-key-nations-1.4881500

Can input countries to compare COVID's trajectory in each nation.
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« Reply #1588 on: April 21, 2020, 03:35:20 PM »

Some might like messing about with this -

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/covid-19-curves-compare-canada-and-other-key-nations-1.4881500

Can input countries to compare COVID's trajectory in each nation.

Can we work out if it’s Boris’ fault from that?  Cheesy
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« Reply #1589 on: April 21, 2020, 03:37:39 PM »

Some might like messing about with this -

https://www.ctvnews.ca/health/coronavirus/covid-19-curves-compare-canada-and-other-key-nations-1.4881500

Can input countries to compare COVID's trajectory in each nation.

Can we work out if it’s Boris’ fault from that?  Cheesy

Can't be his fault. He wasn't even there Wink
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