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thought i would start a golf betting thread as i have a bet most weeks and would like to see if i'm up or down at the end of the year. i will start off with a bank of 200 pts and will post on here my selections for the week.

this week

abu dhabi golf

F. Molinari  2 pts e/w @ 25/1  (mr consistancy 10th & 13th last 2 years)
H. stenson 1.5 pts e/w @ 50/1 (power hitter should suit course)
A. Quiros   1.5 pts  e/w @ 40/1 ( as stenson power hitter should suit course)

didnt bother this week with bob hope classic nothing stood out for me.
all backed with a local bookie who pays 1/4 odds for six places. also fancied but didint back as could'nt get decent price locally, D. Willett avail @ 100/1  & J.P. Gonnet avail @ 200/1

would love if some other people wanted to join in too.

cheers Moon

Think I might have an ew interest in chris wood at 55s and maybe louis oosthuizen at 20s- both played ok last year in this trny and are playing ok atm.

 

Be good to keep a rec of my golf bets.

Will start with 100 point bank too.

Abu Dhabi selections:

1.5 Point wins- Kaymer@8-1

                        Westwood@9-1.

0.5 pt ew's- Manassero@66-1

                    Rhy Davies@175-1.
 
                   Eduardo Molinari@66-1

Balance=94 points.

Kaymer's won this 2 of the last 3 years. Westy is pure class and will be on a roll from last season's finish. The other two are good young players at generous prices with every chance of a reasonable showing.

Haven't looked at the us one yet, thh coverage tilts me tho and might put me off even from the sweat factor.

Edit- just added on eduardo molinari at 66s, almost 3 times his brother's price- i actually think he's the more talented sibling.

I'm on Manassero @ 90 on BF

I also fancy Poults who I'll probably bet IR as the current 16/1 seems a little skinny to me.

I'm really looking forward to this as it's a very strong field.

I've had a small bet @ 320 on John Parry who had a fantastic second half of last year too.

I'm on lefty at 18.5. Huge price!

stenson -3, molinari & quiros -1 not a great start probably need to get to -11 to finish top 6 so work to do Kaymer looks very good at 12 under cant see him getting beat tbh

i had one bet - harrington  :(

its not even a void either.

im on!

Nice work so far Kaymer, meh the rest of em.

Topping up the portfolio as bar the leader the places look up for grabs and it's still top 3 1/4 the odds with tote which seems fair, both of these are on -7, just 2 strokes from second.

0.5 pt ew's   Niclas Fasth@66/1

                    Rafa Echenique@80/1

Balance=92 Points.

Crazy finish to the us golf with some mad action on Betfair - someone apparently laying Woodland at 1.1 for 100k when Vegas went into the water.

Ok so new balance is 105.5 points thanks to kaymer.

Prob going to leave the european event this week as tbh the field dsnt mass excite me and i can't see much value neither.

In contrast over the pond 'The farmer's insurance open' look's a great betting event.

Woods at 11-4 odd gives nice prices to the rest.

I normally follow dustin johnson on the us tour in most comps and this week is no different, i'd make him second fav most weeks and am happy to get 20+ on a huge talent.

The other wagers all appear to have lovely place value as well as all being potential winners. Seems quite a bit of dead wood around and as said prev i think woods taking up so much of the book allows for value elsewhere.


2PTS WIN Dustin Johnson@21-1

1PT EW Mahan@45-1

0.5 PT'S EW Laird@70-1

                  Leishman@80-1

                  Appleby@125-1

Balance 98.5 Points.

I'll play along if you dont mind as normally bet the golf each week

Euro tour event not my cup of tea either this week.

Going for something slighly different in the US tour event, with it being first time up for alot of the players this season

Starting balance:- 100pts

4pts Nick Watney top ten finish @ 5/2
4pts Rickie Fowler top ten finish @ 13/5

Both got course form, both from Calafornia, and both generally very consistent (finished in top 10 in at least 3rd of tour events played last year)

GL

I've gone for last years winner Ben Crane - apparently the rough is quite heavy on the course so hopefully his driving accuracy will keep him in touch.

right no luck last week molinari finished 8th was the best i could do so bank down to 190 (i will halve this to 95 to stay in step with nico and t-mar)

so Bahrain

.5 ew d.horsey @ 100/1
.75 ew Ed molinari  @ 40/1
.5 ew John parry @ 90/1
gonna be a very low scoring week i think, all capable of going low.
san diego

.75 ew brandt snedeker @ 50/1 good course form 2nd here in the past
.5 ew jamie lovemark @ 250/1 led nationwide tour last year is only 22 and have heard he is a real talent, hoping he's this years rickie fowler!

new bank 89 pts
lets hope for a decent sweat.

Smallish win bets this week in the Farmer's on JBHolmes @ 110, and Martin Laird @ 80.

I may still get on theTiger IR but 11/4 is a joke price for someone who is winless in over a year imo.

5 ew d.horsey @ 100/1  -5 t32
.75 ew Ed molinari  @ 40/1  -11  t1
.5 ew John parry @ 90/1  mc hammer

.75 ew brandt snedeker @ 50/1  -2 t32
.5 ew jamie lovemark @ 250/1 -3 t22

both americans to play slightly easier north course today so hopefully they will have 9 birdies in them each

go go eduardo   ;D

Summary going in2 last round:

Mahan is tied 3rd and looking to have every chance, johnson is 5 off the lead but has the game to challenge with a barnstormer, leishman is 6 back and wld kinda need a miracle but could sneak a place, appleby is 10 back and ummm kinda finished and laird had a weekend off.

Decided to have a cple more bets just to be silly as i feel there is a bit of value to be had.

Anthony Kim 1 pt ew@10-1 (top 3 places paid)

Jhonattan Vegas 0.5 pt ew@33-1

Balance=95.5 points.

GL with Mahan and Kim Nico,... Nice sweat for you tonight

edit: and vegas! :)

Funny game.. Watney doesn't get going for 3 rounds and then shoots a 63 to finish 6th - Fowler gets off to a flyer but manages to play himself out of it.

Balance:- 106pts

Looking forward to Euro event in Quatar this week

molinari 2 shots from a place, snedeker 1 shot from placing close but no cigar balance 89pts

More sweats than in a sauna but ultimately a very disappointing week.

Mahan gets 6th after a mini choke final round, johnson is tied 3rd after never quite getting there, leishman tied 9th, and although vegas excited he barely gave a profit due to tying 3rd.

Meh! :)

Balance now 97.4 points.

I dont know a great deal about golf but what I do know is I only have a bet on it when Bobby1 posts on here...thats my golf tip for the year

Yeah bobby knew his onions... I'm just playing, wouldn't advise anyone to follow me lol

Bets this week...

1pt EW Jiminez @ 28/1
1pt EW Quiros @18/1
0.5pt Gonzalez @ 140
1pt Gonzalez to Place @ 16/1
1pt Gonzalez Top Ten @ 7/1

gone for a bunch of outsiders this week

in Pheonix

Ryan Palmer 1.5 ew @ 50/1  i was very impressed with his golf at the bob hope where he finished 4th
jeff overton .5 ew @66/1
r garrigus .5 ew @ 135/1

Qatar open

b rumford .5 ew @ 110/1 3rd last year and top 20 in 09
t olesen .5 ew @ 135/1 rookie who did ok in south africa this is his first event on gulf swing

7pts staked bank 82 pts.

Good luck moon and t mar this week.

Hoping to get back on form this week and am betting on both tours.

Firstly on the european side i'm playing safe and going with a classy trio.

2.5 pts win Kaymer@7-1

1.5 pts win Westwood@10-1

1 pt win Quiros@14-1

Secondly on the us front i've gone for a course specialist in JB, a young gun who will sooner or later destroy a top class field and veteran who is smooth as silk (top ten in this last year) and seems over priced.

1.5 pts win Fowler@25-1

1 pt ew JB Holmes@50-1

1pt ew Couples@150-1

Balance= 86.9 (Started with 100)

Added following for the US tour event.

1pt EW Kim @ 25/1

Really think its going to pay to follow him in the next few weeks... Streaky player that is coming right back into form.

Was kicking myself as was going to back him for the Masters after his R1 last week (50/1) but held off and price gone now.

GL guys 

I've gone for Jonathan Bryd - think hes a bit overpriced based on his recent form also the course doesn't demand long driving so that suit him.

im sticking with the faves this week too. im on Lefty, Dustin and Ryan Palmer EW for the US.

Qatar- i cant see past Kaymer, he is some golfer so max bet on him for me

Crazy first round in qatar with many of the fancied players, perhaps even kaymer who is 9 back-possibly fatally ruining their chances this week.

Even though it supposedly hurts my portfolio due to my selections somewhat open to the label of being such players with quiros and westy also 6 and 4 behind respectively, this kinda whirlwind start opens up the market a bit, and i like.

I normally spread about ten points over the whole comp, in fact rarely back after the first round till the sunday morning, but value is value and i think i may have found a bit.

Quiros may be 6 back but that's makeable over 3 rounds, especially with his course record, im pressing here at 50-1. Fasth was involved near the death last week and is only 1 off the lead and looks to be ready for a decent weekend.

Two rags i've found both seem overpriced. Fichardt has won this b4 and has a nice record in qatar as well as just being 1 behind the goose, oliver fisher is a talented player who seems to be either on it or off, i'm hoping with him lying at -1 it's an on week.

Added to the european event:

0.5 PTS EW x 4-

                      Quiros@50-1 (top 4 places paid)
                    
                      Fasth@33-1

                      Fichardt@70-1

                      O fisher@125-1

Balance now 82.9 points.

Descent round from Alvaro mate.. Back in the hunt for the weekend

I've just backed tommy gainey at 38s. Just hope he can keep up the scoring

Us comp has miles to go due to delays but j b holmes is going along nicely at -8 in around 7th.

Qatar is looking like it's quiros or bust.

Thus i'm adding another spaniard to assist!

0.5 pt ew Rafael-Cabrera-Bello@66-1 (top 3 places paid)

Balance=81.9 points.

Really wierd the way the US has played out, cant be very good psychologically for the thursday -3, -4 guys who thought "ok start" and now 10 behind.

Totally agree, think this could open up this comp, so i'm adding a couple of bets, with one huge outsider.

0.5 pts ew Baddeley@40-1

                 Cameron Beckman@200-1 (top 4 places paid)

Balance=79.9 points.

Was hoping to back dustin johnson and watney too at 80+ as i think both are mass value in the place parts, but had another cple of funerals this week-accounts closed or restricted.

Wont get on bets unless i get the full value available, or at least near enough.

Such a joke some of these bookies, it's not like im winning fortunes from betting, just doing a few bets they aint keen on(not golf bets), well i aint keen on how they behave nor treat their customers, no matter i'll get by.

Meh a 2nd and a tied third.

Quiros returned 6.75 points and cabrera-bello 3.55 points for tying third.

Thus a 10.3 pt return for a 10 point outlay, quite deflating but hey at least no disaster.

Balance now 90.2 points.

Ricky looking good in the us-just 4 back with 2 rounds to go, couples is 9 back...but u never know, and jb is lurking....go go go selections! :)

-8.5
+ 5.5 for Quiros placing (sigh at the slow roll this morning)

Balance:- 103


Nice bet on Quiros @ 50's Nico, was looking good for a moment

Cheers t mar, ul too with quiros.

US event looking interesting, even the 200-1 shot is doing well!

Felt obliged to top up my usa portfolio to the usual 10 points staked over the wknd.

Very congested near the top and im surprised some of the books still go ew top 4 with a few holes left of round 3, thus ive backed dunfer who is just 4 back.

Watney as expected has charged up the leadeboard and although will be 5 or so back, will def be a danger, small saver on the win.

1PT EW Dunfer@25-1 (top 4 places)

0.5 pt WIN Watney@40-1

Points=88.2.

dufner just one behind now gl nico

Feel dufner bottled that play off, cross off for me-unless proven otherwise, fair play to wilson imo.

Seconditus again, hurts a bit but i'll pick myself up and try and win again next week.

Prev i got the updated points tally wrong, it shlda been on 87.7 points.

Ok so here are my usa returns:

J B Holmes-tied 5th- 1 pt ew@50-1 (4.5 pts returned)

Jason Dufner-2nd-1 pt ew@25-1 (6 pts returned)

98.2 points balance.

Least there are some great sweats going on, golf betting is da nuts.

ul for a place - pretty freakish 17th hole.  Can't help but think his caddy should have handed him a putter given the consequences of a duff.

Desert Classic

I had Mcilroy in mind for this, but priced so tight along with the other 'big3' I dont think there is any value to be had a the very top of the market

I'm going to stick with Alvaro.. Fustrating player in some ways... He played really well after a poor first day last week and that was his 2nd top5 of 2011 along with a top 10 so he's in great form generally.. Coupled with that, he had first 3 rounds under 70 in this last year and must of been one of the leaders going to into round4 before shooting a 75 when everyone struggled to score.  Was also T13 the year before

He's a good bet I reckon

Also backed Ed Molinari top ten as largely consistent, had a good start to year and played well here last year to finish T4... Was close to backing him win and place but prefer top 10 for him in competitive field

2pt EW Quiros @ 20/1
4pts Ed Molinari @ 5/2 (Top Ten)


GL with bets lads

peter hanson and e molinari for me

European bets this week are quite simples, lot of dead wood in field, tight at top of market, where only one is a stand out for me.

Kaymer dsnt like the crse he played last week, yet bar his first round it wasn't a disaster

Has good consistent course form here,is playing red hot right now, and something else is interesting.

Woods at 13-2 seems bigger than i'd expect the bookies to offer, i think it's due to them running scared of the german-almost a tip from the shrewd ones.

Just a few places back in the betting is Jiminez who won this last year and if he can stop missing the small putts cld really challenge.

Amoing the rags is Caberra-bello who put up a nice finish last week, place chance and maybe more.

Kaymer- 3pts win@5-1

Jiminex 1pt ew@33-1

Caberra-Bello- 0.5 pt ew@100-1

Balance=92.2 points.

Usa selections to follow.

Dustin jonshon has won the pga comp this week for the past two years. The course is perfect for his game and he shld tear up the par 5's as usual this week.

Without sparkling he's been doing ok on the tour over the past few weeks, maybe this week is his chance to shine and 3peat this.

JB holmes is also tailor made for this course, he was 2nd last year and placed 5th last week.

Vijay Singh has a good record around here-is second best in all time earnings at pebble, also he looks to be on the comeback trail with a tied third last week.

Dustin Johnson 2pts ew@7-1

1pt ew X 2 JB Holmes@33-1

                Vijay Singh@35-1

Balance=84.2 points.

Edit- Seeing as i've 2 particularly strong selections i'm going to stick kaymer and johnson in an ew dble.

1pt ew dble- kaymer@5-1 and dustin johnson@7-1

Balance=82.2 points.

well last week was an unmitigated disaster 4 missed cuts and overton made it on the number still i shall try again this week

dubai.

ross fisher 1 pt e/w @ 40/1  decent course form
soren hansen .75pt e/w @ 66/1 decent recent form

pebble beach.

david duval. .5 e/w @ 100/1 more in hope than expectation.
gary woodland .5 e/w @ 125/1 looks really solid could putt better though.


5.5 pts staked

good luck all.

new bank 76.5 pts

I don't bet on golf much, but I had to have a few quid on Dustin Johnson at over 7/1.

His claims look absolutely rock solid this week.

Added on anders hansen in the dubai event, this looks a going week for him.

Bit worried about rory's rocket start, but kaymer is still only 4 back....lurking! lol

0.5 pt ew Anders hansen@66-1

Balance=81.2 points.

[  ]  Good start for Alavaro

just in case it comes in, we have been bundling on Chris Kirk, 150/1 when we started backing him and he's a lot shorter now.

been winning on other tours and outplaying recent pga tour breakthroughers Vegas and Two glove bloke.

Did sim last week tho...maybe time to press?

Ha I did look at the prices :)

I virtually never bet on pro-am golf tourneys as I feel that another unfathomable element is added to the mix.

I am also not a big fan of events that are played on several different courses.

I am not a particular fan of Bill Murray either who appears to be the main attraction here every year.

So basically I did not bet on this week's US event.

2 clear, long way to go though. glgl

2.5 pts e/w anders hansen @ 7/1 1/5 1,2,3

for something to watch

2.5 ew on westwood @ 16/1 same terms

my boy peter hanson in with a squeak. £15 e/w at 50/1, would be nice, come on son.

westwoods ball stuck up a tree FML!!!

nice touch.

well done!

Binkety Bink!!!!!!!!!!!

Cheers lads

Nice bet again Nico and vul

Balance was 103 before last weeks bet, shelled out 8pts and Quiros returned 54 so new balance is 149

This week going to dodge the Euro event, cant see myself following that but the US event looks decent.

Mick and Stricker have the best course form over last few years, and both been steady at start of this year.. I rated their chances equally this week so was surprised Stricker was more than double Micks price yesterday, 18/1 was big so had a bit of that.

Also big price is Dustin Johnston who has some nice course form (3rd last year, 10th year before) and is very consistent generally... He was 7/1 fav last week and is now 25/1 for this which seems crazy.  Donald is playing this week but he was 2nd here last year after 2 warm up events.. where as this is first time up so not that big on his chances.

Also like JB Holmes who has great course form, and in decent nick at the moment... win and place price is bit less than was hoping for, but might be a top ten candidate

So far

1pt EW Dustin Johnston @ 25/1
1pt EW Stricker @ 18/1

GL

Def not liking all the seconds, guess i shlda stuck with quiros.

Nice result t mar. :)

Ok so balance is now 89.95 points from the 100 starting bank.

But the bar has been hit more than a raging alchie wld and eventually one should succeed.

Having said that i'm real busy this week so may not get round to a golf bet due to not having much time 4 research.

Not that that normally stops me lol

Could not sleep so did afore- mentioned 'research'.

European selections:

1 pt ew Carberra-Bello@25-1

Has been playing pretty well recently, won't need a superhuman effort in this deadywoody field.

1pt win Richard Finch@33-1

Sim comments to above.

0.5pt ew x 2

Dodt@80-1

Won this last year and seems a touch overpriced.

Oliver Fisher@150-1

Talented enough to win this, tenth last year...concentrate ollie!


Over the pond i've missed the juicy early doors 25's on dustin mentioned itt. Still value in my book for a top top player who could thrive in potentially challenging conditions.

Furyk is a selection if only because he's pure class and seems a false price amongst raggy type players, when i'd never put him much more than 33-1 in almost any comp, was 3rd 4 years bk in this.

Marino dominated much of last weeks comp and top tenned this last year, his price is juicy for an in form player.

Us selections:

1.5 pt ew dustin johnson@22-1

1 pt win fuyrk@50-1

0.5 pt ew marino@60-1

Balance now 79.95 points.

Gl all, hope we all win some mad dimes this week!!

Added 4pts Dustin Johnston Top Ten @ 5/2, standout with the tote and over priced imo

I think Dustins swing is a bit wild, when hes out of form he'll be out of form for a while imo.

You could be right, and probably a better judge than me.. I'm not sure I'd say he's out of form just yet (despite last week).... He's generally very consistent (finished top ten in 10/23 tour events last year according to the PGA site) and I fancy him this week with his strong course form.

GL with what ever you go for

Interesting comment, certainly can see your logic, just don't think he's out of form right now, just not ness on top gun form, but it won't take much.

bank at 72.5 now not going well !

swerved the euro this week
 
us golf.

L. Donald 1.5 e/w @ 22/1 top 6 in this the last 3 years, course obviously suits

M. Wilson 1 e/w @ 80/1 can't believe the price on a 2 time winner this year at a golf course that should suit, accuracy>power at riviera imo.

5 pts staked

new bank 67.5

Kinda agree about wilson being overpriced, he's a born winner who dsnt seem to bottle it unlike a lot of his fellow pro's.

Surprised i ignored him as at over 66-1 i'd normally take an interest in his chances.

Try shopping around on price tho imo mate, found 90s immediately and after id placed that kinda regretted it as betfair was 110+22 the place, tho minus comish 90s is still fine.

Added to my weekly portfolio.

0.5 pt ew mark wilson@90-1

Edit-win or lose cheers for flagging this one up moon.

Balance now 78.95 points.

Omg freddie couples 3 clear in the us comp while my selections bring up the rear.

Just like quiros as soon as i un-bok them they can't lose, 150-1 on mr couples was resistable for me this weekend.

Hope his back plays up...

Harsh and bitter...but meh! :)

Added a cple in the european event. The leader is carbera-belo by 1, but with only 1 and a half rounds done there's loads of play left.

The more i keep looking at this event and the leaderboad, the more i keep thinking it's so wide open.

Trying to stay away from old deadwood i've added a couple of unknowns at partyesque prices who are clearly hitting some form.

0.5 pts ewX2

Floris De Vries@50-1 (top 4)

Sujjan Singh@80-1

Balance=76.95 points.

The former is 21 and did very well on the challenger tour, the other at 29 is more unknown but at just 2 back with 9 holes of round 2 left to play-could be the round 2 leader for all we know.

Loving the fact i get standout prices with the books on these guys and i feel placewise there is nice value in these bets.

Go get em team!

Edit- In the us event i've added another of this week's also unbokked selection jb holmes, just 4 the bok obv.

2 points win j b holmes@15-2

Balance=74.95.

Nice read, sigh

Every time I see Camilo Villegas I think of Neil Blatchly.

Every time i see him i think of moneeeeeeeeeeeey

Bombed last weekend so new balance is 141pts

Bets this week in the Matchplay

2pts Win Nick Watney @ 30/1
2pts to win Bracket @ 8/1

1pt EW Robert Karlson @ 66/1

I'm pretty sweet on Watney to at least win his bracket, Westy is still to show anything like his best form this year, and  Kim is up and down like a yo yo, happy to take them both on early. Made the quarters last year and his in great form, Course will suit him also I think.

Karlson is just a big price for a class player who is in good form.  He has a tough bracket but can beat anyone on his day, over priced I think.

GL

FIsher FTW

Followed Ace in on Fish Face... 1pt EW @ 60/1

no outright bets for me this week did a silly bet on the 2nd round matches

rose>kaymer 11/8
watney>westwood 11/10
e molinari>donald 11/8
karllson>mahan 11/10

4 tbls and an acca
5pts invested

newbank 62.5

Last week sucked, decided to have week off, even failed at that!

Cldnt resist this, mainly due to arbyness on betfair-a tip in itself imo.

And it's mr solid.

World golf champs.

2.5 points Matt Kuchar@7-1

Balance=72.45 points.

Also just added kaymer in running, he's 2 behind on his round so far, if he turns it round, this is huggggggge.

1.25 pt ew Kaymer@40-1 (first 2)

Balance=69.95 points.

Kaymer through and best priced 3-1 now, winnnnnnnnnn it!

Could lay off, should lay off....won't!

Go kaymer!

I like your style

+1

GL Nico..... you're definately due!!!!!!!!!!

That sucked. :(

Anyway kaymer bet returned a measly 17.9 points after pronising potentially much more.

New balance=87.85 points.

Feel a break coming on, def can't take many more seconds!

Cheers for the good luck wishes prev guys, one day!

I've just recently started up a us masters portfolio, and kicked off with fred couples at 125-1, best price i can find now is 100s.

So best add this now to limit the aftertiming!

The bloke is still pure class and altho pension years arent far off hes still able to compete, especially on this course as proved last year.


Us masters bet:

1pt ew Fred couples@125-1

Balance now 85.85 points.

Now for that break from golf betting...

Not very original but I backed Kaymer lasat wek for Masters... 2pts win @ 20's which was silly price.. 16's now after Match play, but I still think is value.. Will prob be topping up.  I know he has never done anything at Augusta (hence my win only bet) but think he's going to dominate now and should be alot shorter for this.  Laddies are 12's which is much nearer the mark.

8pts down at the Match play and 2 in play for the Masters:- Balance is 131pts

Rose was going to be my pick this week but he's n/r now...  I think Ed Mol might play well though.. He's hardly played in the US but should suit a tighter course, and heard him in an interview at Match play after his 1st round win saying he had a new putter he was much happier with etc.. so if gets a bit of confidence on the greens could go well

Ed Molinari 1pt EW @ 66/1

Added:- Ben Crane 1pt EW @ 25/1

Course should really suit which is backed up with 3rd in 09 and 12th in 08.. been in decent nick this year also, missed the 33's unfortunaely but still a decent bet I reckon

think he just pulled out

Shame.. Oh well , all down to E Mol !!!!!

Honda classic.

Knew i wldnt resist a golf bet, just gotta have a sweat on the comp, and there appears to be a little bit of value.

Bar in some cases i think the books might be going too low on the odds of the europeans who dominate the front of the market.

The exception here is donald who has great course form here (a first and a second in the last 5 years) and is absolutely flying right now.

In fact my other two selections are both former winners of this event, 2 and 3 years ago.

Els can never be discounted yet his recent form is pushing him out amongst the raggier selections and he's always a nice pick to have onside.

Y E Yang played well last week, is a player who seems a bit streaky and imo- a born winner.

Selections

1 pt ew X 3

Donald@16-1

Els@35-1

Y E Yang@45-1

Balance now 79.85 points.

       

bokking 2 golfers this week

1pt ew rickie fowler @ 28/1
.5pt e/w j vegas @ 66/1

new bank 59.5

I'm quite keen on Yang this week too and am on @ 50.

Also taken some 90 about Spencer Levin whom I expect to have a very big year.

I've a couple of others as yet unmatched which i will post if and when they are.

RICKIE FOWLER (this is getting old now!) this is his week! @ 34.0
Jeff Overton 110.0
Anthony Kim 55.0

gl every1.

Robert Allenby   36   £19.83   £713.88
Y.E. Yang           46    £14.40      £648.00
Anthony Kim   55   £13.53   £744.15
Tom "1.01" Gillis    260    £20.03   £5,207.80

I expect this man to have a huge year:

Lay (Bet against)    Backer's Odds    Backer's Stake
Tom ''million'' Gillis    280                     £10.00              £2,800.00   £2,790.00

Couldn't resist dabbling on Love3 @ 200

added in Boo Weekley @ 130.0  BOO BOO WHO THE FK ARE YOOOOO!

I fortunately didn't get matched @ 44 about Poults who is currently +3 through 4 holes  ::)

Spenny and Yang going okay so far.....

Yang looking good so far tied in second, my other two are 6 and 8 shots off the lead, but this comp kinda has a weird topsy turvy feel to it right now.

Completely going against that though i'm adding in someone near the top of the leaderboard themselves. Was Arby on betfair, best price by a few points available with lads, rate his game etc etc..

0.5pt ew Greg Chalmers@40-1 (top 4 places)

Balance now 78.85 points.

could be going better +1/+8/+8/+8 for my men, so 1 man to make the weekend it looks.  come on jeff.

but shiiiip:

Ok so bar a sabba disaster looks like comp is over, altho it seems like most ppl i have a yang sweat going in2 final round, come on plse, no more seconds!!!

Anyway one selection where i'd bite yr hand off 4 a second is the following.

As said above it's almost like the event as a betting medium on the win is kinda over, leader is 5 clear and 1-3.

Having said this anything can and often does happen in golf when the wobbles can come from nowhere so i certainly wldnt be piling on at odds on, so i like a small additional sweat bet, and i like the place part alot here.

Young kyle stanley is on -2 and just 2 shots from second place, ew with tote we get 1/3 the odds-most are 1/4 and many are win only.

Bar yesterdays +4 round he's had a great week and def appears value to sneak a top 2 possy.

Weird staking size is due to fact i had a weird amount in my ac and altho not wanting to deposit more, i cldnt bring myself to bet less!

Added to weekly porftolio:

0.75pts ew Kyle Stanley@50-1 (top 2)

Balance now 77.35 points.

you def have a sweat now!

Sigh, Nico... Keep plugging away, bink around the corner!!!

Unlucky Karab and Horner also..

I managed to lay Yang @ 3.2 for a decent profit, but would have far preferred the win.

Cheers m8, bit punch drunk from all these 2nds but meh.

New balance is now 89.60 points.

Seriously doubt ill bet this week.

Only E Mol ran for me last week, so balance now 129 (inc Kaymer for Masters)

Not over impressed with the price but gone for Watney again this week - surely a big result is just around the corner?! - has a 2nd in this 2 years ago and should be well suited to the course.

2pts EW @ 22/1

Also backed Casey 1pt EW @ 25/1 and Quiros 1pt EW @ 33/1. 

Balance: 121pts

GL all

Been going pretty well on the golf so far this year. Was on Yang same as everyone else, I felt sure Sabbatini would have a bad sunday, wasn't to be though. This week it seems the market has a few of the big hitters overly short, sure it's a long course but the value seems to lie with players that can get it out there and have a bit of class but aren't renowned big hitters. FWIW I'm on Bill Haas and Hunter Mahan both E/W at 40/1. gl everyone having a punt on the golf this week.

Just on Graeme McDowell @ 17.5 this week although I might possibly add to that IR.

I've now added Ross Fisher whom I simply could not resist @ 170.

GL

your not alone - if he can find his putting game he would be 40/1 or less.

Kyle Stanley in the puerto rican open is my other bet this week.

Am on
Ben Crane @ 90
Adam Scott @ 160
Bo Van Pelt @ 210

I'm on Ross Fisher, Bubba Watson, Jim Furyk and Tigeerrrrr!

luke donald 1.5 e/w @ 25/1
francesco m 1e/w @ 66/1

bank 54.5

Bubba has withdrew, so I'm on Poulter at a massive 68-1

Little or no point mentioning / after timing etc etc. Dustin Johnson 40/1 e/w 1.0 pt

Anyone got a view on this going into the weekend??? Is just down the road from me so might pop down there Sunday or tomorrow.  Clearly would need a bet first though.....

fwiw i'm already on mahan pre tourney quite big, i've backed watney e/w tonight.

I had a bet on kaymer earlier at 4s, all my runners were a long way off so thought id keep some interest

I added Francesco Molinari @ 23 (looked a lot better before the bogey on 18) and Pod @ 46 to this week's portfolio.

I reckon it's still pretty open and wouldn't be that surprised to see someone go very low today.

Going to use my golf one time  ;)

Binnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnk!!

Nice way to kick off festival week :)

Nice one Mr.T

Well done t-mar your man played real nicely, I somehow managed 2 placed so now up to 77.5 in the bank. could the worm have turned? is the bokkage over? or is it just a temporary reprive?

Nice to have a bit of a sweat though.

Cheers Moon, meant to say well done on your places also... nice work :)

WP all round. Will be wating to see all your Masters selections.

Wd tmar, v nice winner. :)

tyty

Chelts this week so golf wont get a look in, however was checking masters prices and couldn't resist a bit of Yang @ 100/1

2 top 5's this year already (no rub intended for backers last week!!). aswell as another top 10 finish... 8th in this last year, and already a major winner

Yang 1pt EW @ 100/1
(Kaymer 2pts win @ 20/1)

Balance: 178pts

transitions champs

1 e/w mannasero @66
1 e/w garcia @60

8/10 for picks
5/10 for spelling ;)

Just the one selection this week Jonathan Byrd E/W 40/1. Also backed Dustin Johnson for the Open Championship at 66/1 and Yang at 100/1 for the Masters both E/W.

Manassero 6 under
Garcia 8 under

both in top 10 currently
sweat officially started.

oh dear how very dissapointing. 1/10 for the weekends performance.

Keep going moon!

My 3 punts in the US event this week...

1pt EW Aaron Baddeley @ 66/1
1pt EW Zack Johnston @ 50/1
1pt EW VJ @ 45/1

Balance 172pts (inc masters bets)

Added Ben Curtis 0.5pt EW @ 110/1 and 1pt Top Ten @ 9/1

baddeley is a good pick i think. don't think this is the course for zack johnson, looks much more like a dustin johnson week to me? Gl gl.

It definately looks like it will suit the big hittters, however Zack Johnson has some decent course form here.. 3rd, 6th and 8th so I'm not too worried about that for him... His driving accuracy stats are great which negates a lack of distance disadvantage I guess (?!).. I like him becasue he's got a good win record on the tour coupled with his course form, and he's been pretty consistent this year without having a really good week yet.  Think 50/1 is very fair.  

Cant argue with DJ's chance, and course should suit him like you say but he hasn't done the best couple of times he played here which was my reasoning for giving him a miss...

I'm no expert though mate, just taking a stab!

it would help if you can browse other betting tips in order to improve you betting expertise and you can have more chances of winning and earn lots of money.

Are there any sites that offer this facility?

It would be better if the tips were free don't you think Camel

Much much better.

ignoring the spam ::), tis only a bit of fun after all. this week...

bay hill
1 e/w Brandt Snedeker @ 55
.5 e/w Bubba watson @ 40
.25 e/w Brian Davis @ 175

andelucia

1 e/w Rapheal jaquelin @ 30
.5 e/w Pablo martin @ 100

6.5 staked
67pts in bank

Was v close to backing Snedeker also mate.. Was on the shortlist! Easy to see him having a big week... If he had been slightly better price would of got involved. GL with picks

Three musketeers for me this week at Bay Hill:

JB Holmes @ 60
Sean O'Hair @ 85
Matteo Manassero @ 90

GL

Dustin Johnson    19    
Hunter Mahan    24    
Bubba Watson    46    
J.B. Holmes    60    

Dustin Johson
Kevin Na
Aaron Baddeley
MARTIN LAIRD

Errr, yeah ...as I was saying


Tough day so far by the looks of things

What has happened to O'Hair?

A couple of seasons ago he seemed destined for the absolute top. Great temprement, calm under pressure and impeccible around the course.

But nothing for quite a while..

snedeker well and truly bokked shot 80! must have had a fight with the missus this morning or something!!. Bubba and brian both 2 under and 1 shot off the morning leaders, Pablo -3 Raphael -2 in spain so 4/5 horses started well enough cant complain at that.

Have no Idea what's going on with sean o'heir Keith, Although with his background overly pushy father etc maybe personal circumstances might be playing a part. tough to play good golf when home life is fecked up. (see tiger for proof). Purely groundless speculation on my part you understand. dont feel too sorry for him though he has won $14,000,000 from 166 tournaments!

Yeah but he pays tax

I'm not sure Keith.

I just knew that he had some decent form around Bay Hill and thought he might spark up this week.

On the other hand Spencer Levin whom I predicted great things for this season but omitted this week....

Yeah, I remember the thing with his Dad, that was all going on when he was winning though. Unless the situation has changed, he seemed to have coped with that distraction very well.

His dad was very pushy and actually threatened legal action demanding a %age of his earnings as a return on his "investment" in his son, lovely bloke eh? But that was all about three or four years ago and he is happily married with a young family the last I heard. I think he's just out of form.

Great round from Laird Ace, gl for weekend

JYShin is -9 through 14 holes today and presently six shots clear of the field.

Perhaps that change of coach is starting to pay dividends.

[ ] I am on.

gl with this, he looked pretty solid yesterday got badly punished for his couple of mistakes.

could easily have been 5/6 clear. He's prone to fading on the last day, looked a little tired at the end yesterday. Hope he muddles through, another 70 would be good enough i think.

one time

i'm stunned that buuba is even in the mix at this tournament. gl gents.

Spencer Levin looks a particularly odious character.

Should spend a couple of weeks takings giblets out of chickens in a factory.

Then he might realise just how lucky he is.

Not that I have ever done that particular job myself.

Or have I ever been a professional golfer.

I just think if you take giblets out of chickens you have every reason to be grumpy, whereas a PGA golfer is most peoples idea of a dream job.

Is he in the Jack Wilshire category?

Neither are nearly as odious as Dominic Holyer imo.

Noone is as bad as Jack

they show 2 shots between adverts breaks on the US coverage and the adverts are 5 mins long, it tilts me so hard.

Having watched Laird for last few weeks decided to back him for the Masters @ 125/1 as it looks like he's coming into a bit of form and could be each way value

didnt bother to back him this week though - d'oh!!  :D

still guessing he wont be available at 125/1 much any more so at least i got the value at the right time - sigh.......

Is the Masters still going to be ad free now it is moving to Sky?

Scotland are teh bestest at golf.

Hi Matt.

You need a long draw shot in the bag at the masters, Laird ain't got one, not to say he won't do anything but i doubt it.

I hope it won't be so bad, sky follow the golf channel broadcasts with there ridic amount of ad breaks. I might be wrong but don't augusta sell all their rights direct to each broadcaster so they can have more control? I can handle ads every 15/20 mins but when they are every 5 mins or less its horrible - i remember reading John Daly saying he likes it when he comes to the UK because the golf is watchable on TV here.

Stan James giving stake back as free bets on Masters if Woods/Mickelson win. (on win singles).

Dustin Johnson @ 25s appeals massively to me.

Well done Ace, Great pick

Dustin is another one with a natural fade, he can draw it but he won't be firing his natural shot all week on the major scoring holes. Don't think he putts well enough either. He'll do well on lots of the par 4s though.

I've just had my first Master's bet so far.

I couldn't resist a macaroni's worth of the 120 on BF about YEYang who deffo has the game for Augusta imo.

i had mine about an hour ago. Charles Schwartzel, will prob back him this week to. Want to back Oosthezen but going to wait to see how he does this thurs/fri.

Dustin is good at putting imo

I agree about those two, both on my short-list.

Forum charge developing on Yang?? Well 3 of us at least :)

Backed JB Holmes so far for Houston ... 1.5ptsEW @ 40/1... Looks tailor made from what I can see, but be interested to hear what others think. 

Also on the short list are Baddeley again, and Jason Day but still checking em out.

Runing total:- 167pts

was thinking of backing JB Holmes myself where did you get the 40/1?  nothing better than 35's on oddschecker,
just had a look at the pga tour website and they reckon that the course has tough greens and is suited to good putters and scramblers so my shortlist includes Harrington, aaron Baddeley, Freddie Jacobson and Charles Howell III.
will post my picks tommorow

Was 40's with PP and Laddies when I got my bet on

Added 1pt EW Jason Day @ 50/1 for houston

Couldn't resist a dabble on Spencer Levin @ 75 this week in Houston.

Right massive 2pt profit last week thank to mr jaquelin
houston this week could'nt be bothered with morroco

1 e/w harrington @ 33
.75 e/w Baddeley @ 45
.75 e/w Jacobson @ 60

5pts staked bank at 70.5

prices were really bad this week I know I could get better by shopping around but I like getting 6 places and I only bet small for fun anyway.

God i miss golf betting, will be back for masters week-cannot wait!

I tend to only have a dabble in the Majors myself so I'm lookin forward to the knowledgable crowd on  here to get some tips up early so i can copy them, k thx

Probably shouldn't back this weeks US tournament imo? The big guns don't give their all because of an eye on the masters maybe. The close cut greensides remove some advantage of big hitters, Straight hitters off the tee and whoever happens to be in good touch around the greens out of the straightest drive hitters. I want to back south africans as lots of their courses are set up the same around the greens  so they should shine in theory.

I've backed these for a small interest -

De Jonge
Elkington
Glover
Scwartzel

Euros -
Larrazbal
Willet

If the big guns aren't giving it their all, but taking out a huge chunk of the market then seems like we should be betting in it :)   ...depending on who you classing as big gun of course

Difficult to know, but some 'big' names have won this in recent years

When i say prob should sit out this week i mean in the sense that you know next week they are all 100%, this week i'm not certain of it.

i only rate vijay of a few years ago as a 'big name'.

http://www.dogschasingcars.com/2011/03/ryo-ishikawa-is-kind-will-donate-all.html (http://www.dogschasingcars.com/2011/03/ryo-ishikawa-is-kind-will-donate-all.html)
Nice story about a forum favourite. Hope he wins the lot.

Late edition to the stable.. Cant resist Baddeley @ 60/1 with SJ, 1.5pts EW

GL all

Tourno winnings or "earnings"?  :)

Too cynical to suggest he'll hang onto his sponsorship payments?

(For the record, I haven't donated anything - great gesture regardless)

I believe it is winnings, just misquoted in that particular article. Says he has enough to live on and savings so this is the best way to spend his money. He's also donating $750 for every birdie he makes during the year so guess he will be eating into his sponsorship deals too.

fml if he wins this week, price on him was getting big again

http://blondepoker.com/forum/index.php?topic=51545.msg1314128;topicseen#msg1314128

Anyone on Michael Campbell this week?

It just might be the most surprising comeback since Lazarus.

I played the brabazon at the belfry last week and we were reminising about going to watch a tournament there a couple of years ago where we followed Michael Campbells group for a while and he was genuinely hitting it no better then a high handicapper at times.

I'd love to see him come back.

can the houston open finish now please Harrington and Baddeley tied for first!!!!

hold please  ;D

gl gents, neither of my guys still in have done anything today.

The sunday sweat is on!! could of done without Mick coming back to form but all to play for... GL us Moon

you have to be impressed by mick. If he gets a sniff he's amazing.

Yeah unreal, he only made couple of mistakes but came straight back with something special each time... class act

Masters time means time to return to the golf bets.

Already have fred couples in my portfolio for 1 pt ew@125s from ages bk, now with 6 places available and 150s around i'm already saying grrrr.

Just added woods, the 12-1 price seems unreal especially with the 6 places available ew. The guy is ALWAYS around at augusta, i cannot see him not giving me a sweat here. Mick's resurgance in form and great form at the crse is prob a major fact in the woods price too, well yeah phil will challenge but most still wont. You can either play this crse well or u cant at all-dsnt seem much in btwn, and ill take the proven form here all day long. Backed it now as i only seee his price coming in before thursday.

2.5 pts ew Tiger Woods@12-1 (first 6 places)

Balance=84.60 points.

Can't drive straight and can't putt.  Good form to take into a Masters....

:)

That article you showed me is a little vague mate.

Also although his results this year on the pga tour are hardly awe inspiring, 44th, 33rd, 10th and 24th, they aren't atrocious, just very poor by his standards. This is his back yard, his baby if you like, not been out of the top 6 here since 2004.

12-1 just seems value, if you'd like to offer me some 14s first 6 ill gladly have some more on! :)

i just don't see woods having the control to win round here at the moment, punishments are heavy. I'd have said the same about mick before last week though.....


bit of course form guide here -

http://www.golfobserver.com/golfstats.php?c=282

Cheers for link, see your point, but then it's all about value isn't it, if woods was 20-1 i'm sure we'd all pile on, just seems an overreaction even at 12s for someone who  is normally very skinny odds for this, if his mind stays right he can still win this.

I hope! lol

best week of the year for golf fans imo.

Masters bets:

M Kaymer 2.5e/w @ 22/1 #1 in world rankings, drives it long, irons are solid putts like a dream and has ice running through his veins! how is he 5th in the betting?
B Watson 1.5 e/w @ 40/1   Bubba's gonna Bubba! very long has all the shots more imagination than 10 average tour pro's put together and has that long hard cut off the tee which being lefthanded will suit augusta perfectly. almost guaranteed to be at the top of birdies and eagles made just needs to avoid too many disasters.
F Molinari 1 e/w @ 80/1 great ballstriker, short putting was awful last week but he does have great touch on the longer ones and is a much underated chipper will finish top 6 more than 1 in 20 imo
A Quiros .5 e/w @ 125/1 decent form this year, very long which always helps short game can be a bit iffy but a fun outsider.

11pts staked bank now 69pts after baddeley's place in houston.

Nice thoughts there mate.

Think kaymer is 5th in betting due to missing cut each of 3 times he has played course. But certainly not one to count out, ice in veins comment particularly agree with!

Just remembered this, did you not stick with him and get on ew this wknd?

Wonder what price he was, least he didn't win if you gave up! Nice highlight though, looks one to keep an eye on 4 sure. :)

Stopped backing him after 3 weeks of him showing absolutely nothing. I did moan about it on this thread on saturday i think, 200/1 ish. weep.

So total after Houston bets was 162, +24 return from Baddeley, balance is 186

FWIW, my Masters thoughts

I've already backed Kaymer and although I dont mind having him on my side am only luke warm on him now.. He is definately overpriced imo compared so some of the other market leaders, and if in contention obv has the minerals.  Win only has to be the play with the course doubts.  I read some stuff from some good judges suggesting his ball flight is too flat for Augusta, bit technical for me, but kind of makes sense given his record here compared with say his links record where a flatter ball flight is a big advantage.  He's the #1 in world though and is not the same player as in previous years so we'll see.  2pts win @ 20/1

My other pre tourny pick was YE Yang, who bombed in Houston and has since missed his flight on way to Augusta meaning a long car journey through the night apparently!!! Not sure what to make of that, but whatever.. Has some course form to call on, and was in decent nick early in the year 1pt EW @ 100/1
 
Had a good look over the weekend and ended up having a decent bet on Adam Scott. I really think he's going to have a big week. Tee to green he nailed everything last year, and it was only his putting that let him down - Which is generally his weakness, and I know you need to be hot with the putter to win this, but he's started using this broomstick and seems alot happier with it.. He had a good finish last time out at Doral with the new putter so who knows, he could get it going.  He's definately going to put himself in a position to make lots of birdies though so I'll take a chance @ 90/1 and 110+ on betfair.  I was a bit worried that he hadn't played for few weeks but found an article over the weekend saying he had been camped out a Augusta for last couple of weeks playing extra practice rounds instead of compettion.... Cant be a bad thing in my mind, and really think he's going to be challenging.  2pts EW @ 90/1
 
I've been swaying between getting with Watney or not... Price is short enough but might get involved.. He's got potential to shoot v low, so maybe back to lay material.  Still think he has questions to answer about getting the job done, despite doing me a favour in doral obv

Looking elsewhere.. I want to get Westwood beat in the gb and ireland market... poor fav imo


Kaymer and Yang were already included in total, -4 on Scott, new balance is 182pts

Added Rickie,Toms, Karlsson and Cabrera to my team which already has Yang on the firm.

I haven't had a bet with Ladbrokes online or on the phone for about 4 years.

Got an email from them today, giving me a free £500 bet on the Masters!

I don't follow golf as closely as I used to, but I think Westwood is going to win a major sooner rather than later, he has a decent Austa record, there are doubts about one or two of the market leaders and he looked to be coming into form at Houston last week and Ladbrokes are joint best price.

So, Westie it is for at 16/1.

Did they actually lay you a monkey at 16/1 with the free bet???

Not had the bet yet, it arrived in my email this evening, going to call them tomorrow.

Gone for Lee Westwood, Nick Watney, Aaron Baddeley and Jerry Kelly.  

And Tiger, I couldn't help it!

I've added 2pts EW Trever Immelman (Top Rest of the World) @ 20/1

Obviously this goes against my outright bet on Scott, but think its a good bet in its own right.. 4 places paid in this market which makes it appealing.  Great Masters record and coming into some form. Laddies are 12/1 which is much nearer the mark

Also, added 4pts Win Nick Watney @ 18/1 in outright market, depending how things go, I'll be looking to lay some of this off

Total:- 174pts

Ladbrokes are great layers, cant see this being a problem, if they give u a monkey then id like to think theyd lay it happily

http://www.victorchandler.com/vcbet/en-gb/pages/show/77208-ryo-ishikawa (http://www.victorchandler.com/vcbet/en-gb/pages/show/77208-ryo-ishikawa)

I know that this isn't the forum sponsor but I mentioned earlier in the thread that Ryo Ishikawa is going to donate all winnings this year to the Japan Tsunami Appeal.

VC will donate all losing bets on Ishikawa on a number of markets to the same appeal.

Sceptical of the motives or not if you were thinking of backing him you may want any losing money to go to a good cause rather than a bookie for once.

Top Debutant:- 2pts EW Gary Woodland @ 12/1 (3places)

170pts

Took about 15 minutes hanging on the phone, but I got a bet :)

I couldn't resist flinging a cockle at Peter Hanson @ 430.

Let's hope none of my team win the par three tourney tomorrow.

fyp

My Stable for a sweat:

Rory Mcilroy: £8 e/w @ 28/1
Dustin Johnson: £4 e/w @ 25/1
Ian Poulter: £4 e/w @ 50/1
Rickie Fowler: £4 e/w @ 66/1
Villegas: £1.50 e/w @ 200/1
Ross Fisher: £1.50 e/w @ 150/1
Anthony Kim: £1 e/w @ 40/1
Tom Watson: £1 e/w @ 1000/1

All on paddy power as 6 places paid

Think I may add in just to win as a saver Big Phil, Westwood and Hunter

have a free bet On Mickelson

William hill have gone best Price 8-1 on Mickelson this morning and you can lay whatever you want at 7-1 on Betfair.

I tried online to get £500 on and they took £200 of it.

Going to try and get the rest on in my local shop and have a free roll on Big Phil who is my pick anyway!!!!!

Anyone know what time the par 3 starts and ends on Sky tonight? (live play rather than coverage/build up) TIA

Had:

Watney
Kim
Stricker
Scott
Cabrera

gimme a sweat plzzzzzzzz

McDowell
Fisher
Oostheizen
Schwartzel
F Molinari
Mickelson

YE Yang (just so i don't miss out on a forum wide sweat)

Keep on adding to my stable, best stop now or i'll have backed half the field by thursday.

It's all about the sweat and i reckon i shld get a few with these.

Already on:

1pt ew Fred Couples@125-1

2.5 pts ew Tiger Woods@12-1 (first 6 places)

Balance=84.60 points.

Just added the following:

1pt ew Angel Caberra@110-1 (First 6 places)

0.5 pt ewX4 Jonathan Byrd@150-1  (First 6 places)

                  Ricky Barnes@175-1  (First 6 places)

                  Mark Wilson@200-1  (First 6 places)

                  Jhonatthan Vegas@250-1  (First 6 places)

I've also backed these guys in their respective best of categories:

Top USA- 0.5 pt ew x 4  Jonathan Byrd@80-1  (First 4 places)

                                        Ricky Barnes@75-1

                                        Mark Wilson@80-1  
                                        
                                       Fred Couples@60-1

Top ROW 1pt ew   Angel Caberra@20-1

           0.5 pts ew   Jhonatthan Vegas@40-1

Balance now 71.6 points.

Ok here's the reasoning behind my picks.

I'm a big believer in going with course form at augusta, and have done so with woods and caberra- but the main reason i've backed both is because i think both are big value at the prices. I thought similar of couples, although admittedly am wavering a little now.

However with my 4 big priced outsiders, i'm backing potential and the ability to carve out a result, i gen believe all 4 are gen winners, without having failed at this course massively, and importantly non bottlers, something i find very important when looking at criteria.

Wilson is a big day player, vegas could be anything, byrd seems a fighter and barnes beyond being super talented has 2 reasonable places in his 2 starts here.

Anyway i feel all these bets are nice value punts, just am worried that i'm laying out too much cash on this, so unless something special appears, that'll be my lot!

Gl all, :)

No need for 5/6 runners, just back Nick Watney, sit back and profit.

Saw u tip this b4, reasoning mate? Seems a bit skinny to me, no doubting talent but def history in majors of swerving when close.

History meaning once?

And tbf i put it up 12 months ago to a few people, soon as it had finished.  We backed him last 2 years so maybe the wallet talking but just think fits the right profile, and arguablly the form player in the field with previous form at Augusta.

Yeah obv that once and also seem to remember a cple of times being close and dropping off-but yeah mainly just that once. If i he was 25-1 i'd have got involved as i agree about profile and form. Just don't see a great deal of value at 18s, but in running he's someone i'll keep an eye on, one of the few players on tour capable of shooting a mega mega low round in a major, esp imo in the last round if the pressure is off and he's way back. 

Could someone give me a view on Anthony Kim at 45-1 please?

Not so much the price, but whether he has a game to do well at Augusta, give a punter a good run in it etc etc

Had this discussion with a friend- think Kim is a better bet at 50s to be leader after day 1, than to win it. Capable of shooting v low, but 4 consistent rounds seems unlikely. Is there a "to shoot lowest round of week" market?

i wouldn't back him, he has got all the shots though (tee and fairway) and his natural shot is augusta friendly. He's still finding his game after injuries and weight loss, a year or 2 and  reckon he could do some serious winning. He chucks his toys if it goes pear shaped and augusta will just destroy you if you don't give 100%.

Anyone watching in 3D?  Is it just awesome?

I backed him e/w last year and IIRC he was always in the top ten (last two rounds), though never quite in contention, a few players dropped off in the last round and Kim placed 3rd.. kerching.

After reading this mornings RP and seeing the 'magic sign' going a top priced 50/1, I then tried to place a bet on at 50's to be told.. we are now 40/1. Obv those who were after a bet on Kim used said firm, though I am cheesed at whats advertised is then worse than many market rivals. I went elsewhere for 45's.

A shrewd golf guy told me to get on

3rd last year, lowest round in 2007 (11 birdies iirc). fitter than he was

I agree a lowest score market would be good

but 45-1 seemed tempting

anyone know what the max Stan James are refunding if Woods/Mickleson win?

edit- just seen £250

Robert Karlsson 125/1 ew 1 time!!!

mickelson 5pts @ 8/1
Kaymer 3pts 27/1
Mcdowel 2pts 55/1
YE Yang 1pt 120/1
Quiros 1pt 170/1
R Barnes 1pt 220/1


Lets go

Watney
Bubba
Casey
Overton

Just checked my ladbrokes account- i dont appear to have a maximum- i tried to put £1m on and it said ok but had to deposit!

One bet and one bet only for me, Mickelson at 7-1.

Best player in the world at the moment, comes here in form, loves the course, very positive press conference a couple of days ago.

Sometimes there's no point looking beyond the favourite. Why complicate things?

I'm on:

Biggest Bet Dustin Johnson @ 28s (money back if Mickelson or Woods win with Stan James)
Anthony Kim @ 85.0 (before his putting exhibition last weekend)
Ian Poulter @ 65.0
Graeme Mcdowell @ 55.0

Seem like good odds on Poults and G-Mac.

Main bet - Donald @ 36 before he won the matchplay
Also on - Mahan @ 40
McDowell @ 55
Stricker @ 70
Kelly @ 500
Weir @ 650

I'm on Scott, Bubba and Yang EW and Dustin, Watney and Tiger outright

I'm surprised that I seem to be the only one that's going for RickieF this week.

I really fancy him to be a factor.

A mate of mine has had £100 on him at 85's - like you has a real strong fancy for him this week.
Personally i think he still has to prove he can handle being in contention in a major.

i have a dream. I woke up this morning with the thought that westwood is going to win.

have had to back him.

Had to add Kaymer to my stable, 28s too big for the world number 1, even if he has been shot at Augusta in the past!

Kaymer easily has the game to win the masters imo. he's just not playing to great at the min.

On

Watney
Gmac
Donald
Rory

All e/w and I have a cover bet of mickleson for the win

gl

I'm on...

 Poulter @ 50's
 Donald @ 22's
 Harrington @ 33's ( Feel obliged to back the Irishman)

Very small bets on...

Villegas
Casey
Cink
Schwartzel.

Good luck Y'all

come on Rory - now keep it going for 4 days!

Masters website abs awful for anyone else?

yep. gave up on it.

Kaymer
Woods
Yang
Fisher
Cabrera

What a piece of shit it is - crashes both Firefox and IE with some badly coded script.

if you're just after a scoreboard -

http://www.majorschampionships.com/masters/2011/scoring/index.cfm

If Mickleson can score -2 after spending an hour hitting tee shots into the trees he's going to be tough to beat once he starts hitting fairways.

Anyone else finding the "Oh Georgia, mmmmmmm" thing going into adverts tilting?

Agree, Philly Mick hard to beat if he can sort his driving out.

It was starting to sound like fingernails scratching a blackboard towards the end.

On the plus side Monty was surprisingly good.

yes veryyyyy tilting!

I thought Monty was good as well.

Not only was the 'Oh Georgia' thing tilting but I can't stand the very snooty way that they don't seem to be allowed to use the terms 'spectators' or 'fans' and instead have to call the people watching 'patrons'. Similarly there's no rough at Augusta, it's all 'first cut' and 'second cut'.

I don't remember any of this bollocks on the BBC.

monty losing his train of thought a few times and just tailing off made me laugh. He wasn't as bad as i expected him to be.

The hmm georgia thing just started to grate at the end.

Appreciating the low amount of adverts.

Also, why did the 3D not start until 10.30? The last group were already on the 12th or 13th hole.

Seems a bit pointless after Sky pushing that big time in all their adverts for it.

Sky may not be the "host broadcaster" whatever that means, I know it stopped them doing HD previously.

i find monty sucha bore as a commentator, tbh i generally just dont like the guy, met him few times and hes just abit of a grumpy douche irl!!!

Once got into a press conference with Monty after his first round at Woburn a few years ago. Me and a mate got in there. Still not sure how. Offered him a tenner to stick his hand up and ask "You look like someone who enjoys a good fart in the bath. Is that a fair comment?" He sure took me up on it.

Re: the broadcasts. Is this the first year on Sky? Know they only used to allow a max of 2hrs live coverage on the BBC for fear of diluting the product or what not. Those Augusta boys are still in the 1900s.

Was wondering whether the Sky presenters have been told to inform us that every ad break is 'only a minute' long? Ridiculous not starting coverage until 7pm whatever. We should be getting every shot.

amen corner started at 3.45 coverage of 11,12,13 or 15,16 or featured group coverage was'nt bad at all eased the craving anyhow!

Poulter on a charge.....Tiger can shove that where the sun doesn't shine lol

From Sky Sports Golf Twitter:

We have listened to your comments and we are cutting back on James Brown on the break bumper

 ;)

thank god

First year on sky. Lack of coverage till 7pm-actually 8 i believe full coverage from host broadcaster, is due to the masters draconian rules not sky. Been the same for yonks, guess it stops over saturation at least. Far too much chatter on sky, miss the beeb, sick of seeing butch stare down the camera rather than the person hes speaking too. Looking 4ward to sat and the beeb.

the red button stuff is good. see some shots from parts of the course i've never seen before.

shippppp

Flip side of the Phil Mick arguement - if he plays that bad when the pins are easily accessible how badly punished will he be when they get hard?

These were tee shots, not approach shots.

what you reckon Odds on Rory finishing in top 6 now?

1/12 ish

Whoo hoo!!! Thought it would be odds on but still a bit cagey

1-2 on bf but not a liquid market and top 5 not 6. So 1-2 is probably the price in a liquid market for top 6

Surely someone is going to hook it into the trees and get penalized soon.

I was guessing to be honest and didn't realise he'd just bogeyed. 1/2 seems very appealing.

Whoever is selling these white belts to all of the pros is cleaning up.

Tiger seems on a charge, i'm liking my 12-1 now.

Also enjoying sweats on barnes, couples and even caberera.

The rest of the rags-meh! :)

Shit here comes the tiger...a confident looking one at that

GOGOGOGO Tigerrrrrrrrrr. Great to watch him playing well again, should be a good weekend.

come on ricky fowler

just laid him for my entire bf account (£200 lol) - he cant win, there are too many swing probs and demons.

Laid Tiger at 10s , 9s and again at 6s going to do my conkers if he wins this. No pressure Rory.

That said I honestly feel we saw the old Tiger woods in round 2, his whole demeaneur was back to the same Tiger when he won everything.

 I dont think he has the same patience and belief he once had though and he could de rail at any moment.........I hope his second round was just a blip on an otherwise downward spiral.

wow on picking adam scott out whoever that was. would never have picked him but he looks in great nick. glgl.

I got Scott at 120ew! Hopefully they don't post low scores and he'll be in with a shout tomorrow! Also on Bubba and Yang top 5 so still got a sweat from them! And tiger for the win but he's my smallest green

nice.

i've had enough of all this schmoltzy, 'timeless tradition of the masters' type shit accompanied with soft music.

It's been a joke hasn't it! And the build up for the last few weeks saying full coverage of the masters on sky! And they still don't get pictures till half 8. Roll on the Open with proper all day coverage!

goooooooooooooo Cabrera and Scott 2mo!

Shame Rory finished so well, would be very happy if he finished on -10ish.

1 time

Can't see Rory losing this. Think we're playing for places. Bubba's charge has come too late. Could pick up a place with a similar round tomorrow though.

Nice sweat.  Shame its for places. 

I think Cabrera is a man on a mission and can only really get geed up for majors.

I reckon that he has told his son who is caddying for him this week that he's going to win this one for him.

Another 67 might just do the job if Rory shows any weakness.

Tiger will you please stop messing with my bankroll

I was straight over to BBC at 8.30, It was far better than sky.The comms are better, I like Alliss and Grady and I think Ken Brownes little titbits about the greens and what not are always good for a laugh.Oh and obv no ad's help matters even If It's just doing interviews or whatever during the Sky ad's I'd rather that than all those fookin ad's.

Ok so right now i have angel going strong at 110-1 ew, and in the rest of the world market too at 20's, also tiger at 12-1-hopefully he'll place top 6 for me as he really doesn't look like a winner right now, so so dissapointed in his round today.

Freddy has a chance of placing top 5 for me at 125-1 ew, and i'm also sweating a top usa punt on him at 60's, ricky barnes has thrown it away( -6 to -2 on back 9) and bar a barnstomer even looks out of the top usa market for me.

Anyway waffling now, just to say i've added two more to my stable.

Reasoning is that bar rory this is wide, wide open, and it's great the books still bet top 3. Bar at a major we'd be top 2 with an odds on shot available.

Thus place is value and i can literally see anyone from -3 up challenging for the two positions most likely behind the northern irishman.

I've backed two with pedigree and who knows, a rory bottle job-don't think will hpn nor bar moneywise want to see this, they cld even with a 65 or something win the damn thing.

Neither will have anything to lose, one will crucify every par 5, the other could do likewise while having every shot in the book. I just think 16.5-1 and 25-1 on them to make the top 3 respectively is too big. Obv ignoring win part!! :)

1 pt ew Bubba Watson@66-1 (top 3, 1/4 odds-lads)

1 pt ew Phil Mickleson@100-1

Balance=67.6 points.

Edit- Good old ladbrokes have now changed those last bets to 1/5 the odds, not for the first time they change the rules to suit themselves.

Sky was showing in HD, BBC was not....

Does anyone know which countries are covered with the books for the rest of the world market? Are australians in this or do they have their own category for top australian?

Im sweating Cabrera in this market and am worried i'm up against not just Schwartzel and Choi but also like 3 ozzies! Presuming choi is in this and not a top asian market?? Betfair has me confused as their categories appear rather different to the bookies who dont seem to go in running hence my forgetfullness.

TYIA if u can help, prob explained in weds racing post pullout, knew i shlda got it.

They were meant to

come on boys

a rory win will do very nicely

(on top 6 with paddy power too)

btw - what happens if donald is tied 6 - does it still pay teh full 1/4 odds?

Dead heat rules. Thus if 2 players tied for 6th u get half your stake on at full odds, 3 tied-third of stake and so on...

Bugger it, adding more bullets!

All about the sweat and imo the place value is huge on these guys too.

Both just 4 off 3rd on -4.

1pt ew Y E Yang@200-1 (top 3 1/5 odds)

             Martin Laird@200-1

Balance=63.6 points.

Now if rory can just blow up....

i reckon 9 under gets 6th so with bubba at -5 and alvaro at -3 i have outside chances kinda hope Mcilroy wins from here though as it would be a shame if he collapsed.

There's 2 BBC HD Channels, 143 and 169, golf is (not sure if yesterdays was now) on 169.

bin lids please rory

Hope Rory sorts this start out.

Charl is playing superb stuff!

so sick from Charl, great shots.

No pressure here then - he is on fire

Who have we got as favourite now then?

Any one of seven could win it

Had a few quid back at 34s last night thankfully

Im learning in this game

This is shaping up to be a classic, Cabrera is a big winner for me but the tiger is prowling menacingly.

I hope Chris has got his incontinence pants on ;)

blimey Tiger Blooooood!

come on KC ffs

Come on Tiger

schwartzel is such a big winner for me but my heart really wants tiger or mcilroy to win.

this should be great viewing, bottle of wine opened and not moving for the next 3 hrs.

Goooooooooooooooooooooooooo Angel  ;cheerleader; ;cheerleader; ;cheerleader;

this!

And Scott!

Shud be another bird for Scott!

BOK! sedfgdhjhbgfddsfgh

WOW what a tournamet

Pick your winner from here !!!

COME ON RORY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

This, going to be a pretty exciting last couple of hours.

[ ] I bet tikay is really enjoying watching this

Wouldn't miss it for anything.

wtf has rory done

Reckon someone moved Ike's tree.

i'm watching on bbc. i love this thing where they get the english guys who've finished to commentate for a few holes, justin rose was really good just, reall incite to what the players think.

Come on Adam son!!!!

he he. i've never seen him so up for it. putting like god. gl.

Broomsticks ftw ;)

Rory, Rory, Rory

What drama!

What bottle these guys have, too.

Oh dear. A car crash at the tenth

not looking good for rory

Such a brutal game, would like to see Tiger win it. Shots like that will help :)

Feel so sorry for Rory, but what an exciting final day this is, I love Augusta

Top quality triple-bokking sir

seriously thinking about backing rory. 1 bad hole all week. if he's 16+ i'm getting involved.

lol thankfully posted after his 3rd awful shot!  Can't have him blaming me

9/1 didn't seem appealing. damn it.

what an absolute fucking clown!

Now pull yourself together and make a run at it!

I do so enjoy the Ken Brown snippets they throw in, he makes me smile

All green now on Angel but he's still a big winner for me.

Gooooooooooooooooooooooo Angel  ;cheerleader; ;cheerleader; ;cheerleader;

Good luck Ralph!

who is on ogilvy?

poor kid. really should tuck his shirt in though, the members wouldn't approve.

No doubt he will win a major in the near future imo, ul Rory.

Cheers Tony, Are you watching?

Painful to watch Rory at the moment.  

i'm on scott v him in a 2 ball that completes a treble ffs. ive backed ogilvy so many times and he lets me down. ffs.

This is where everyone is hiding!

Hard to watch this total collapse by Rory, I almost don't want them to show any more of his shots.

Should be an amazing finish, 7 way playoff ftw!

I'm a little worried that Rory is going to put my man off tbh.

Feel sick for Roary. Hope he's not labelled a bottler.

horrible to watch now

another bloody choker from the Uk

Put him with the rest!

what the kid who goes 65 75 first 2 rounds of every major - not much

and please can teh commentatros stop bangin gon about him - he is out - there are 7 others gunning for it! Lets see some good analysis please

Why you back him then ??

im in with another guy - his pick

Are you seriously saying that he's a bottler when he's 21 and had entered 10 majors ? He had one freak shot that Justin Rose said was 2 inches from being perfect, he ran bad, simples.

Did you stop watching?

he was still 8 under with 2 par 5's to recover

If "every major" is less than 10 please gtfo

YESSS.

Incredible theatre.

ffs bbc we've seen him missing the putts 18 fckin times

Oh ok then, guess your right.

LOL, com rubs from the BBC.

This is a pretty amazing finish, 9 people within 2 shots of the lead with Scott in trouble at 15.

yeah 9 way chop ftw

Incredible stuff

Come on Luke!

LUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUKE

So Good. 


Its worked out for me, anybody but the Aussies.

self bokking is the best kind

wow, great shot Scott.

lets dooooooooooooo this

#difficulttoputtthroughtears

This is gonna be some 3 holes!

Probably the best last 18 in a major that I have had the pleasure of....

Went against Tiger / Rory when they were too short early with Schwartzel / Scott / Choi / Cabrera so pretty much looking ok.

Don't care though, just enjoying the ride....

had a Fiver on Donald when he went 1000-1

such a good short game


has a chance now !!!!!

Just end it Charl! No play off please (unless Luke is there - what a shot!)

Nice work Donald, get us out!

Jason Day's having a good tourney, sneeking in there.

WTF are the BBC doing, have they lost pictures or summit ?

eh?  All ok here

come on......................................................

what a time to play like that (Charl)

jason day has enough, did you see his bird? smokin....

Assumed they'd lost picuters when there showing a video of Faldo with 3 holes to go.

They rely on the host broadcaster for coverage and given it is in the US they will be showing eleventy billion adverts every 10 minutes.

PAR CHARL!!!! PLEASE!

lol yeah that was strange timing, between shots I'm sure ;)


thought so too, lovely

obv gutted, but well done Ace ...great pick

yo yo yo. milky bars are on me.  ;karabiner;

What a way to finish, congrats to him and anyone who got paid.

Well done ACE.

Nice one Ace, money goes to money..

What an anti-climax

Nice result

no heroics from caberra pls

Charlllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll Thx for the save

4 birdies last 4 holes was immense

nice one Ace

Sigh at the day just glad Rory bottled as expected

what a quality day.

What bet did you have ace?

Also wp jason day, incred bird tekkers.

Should maybe be on the Mini ship it thread , but I'll take it get in there Charl....

my biggest bet was on the winner a couple of weeks before the tournament. bet was bigger than normal because i had the winner that week to  ;D.

if ogilvy doesn't birdy 5 in a row on the back nine its significantly more, i've never seen anyone do that at the masters.

wd.

Cheers Ace u2 ...

sighhhhh, wd winners.

great day of Golf though.

Pretty sick this morning, would of been monster payday if Scott had won... and ended up letting it all ride, which might or might not have been the best move, but whatever

Decent place return, and Gary Woodland came 3rd in the top deb market for a small return also

Congrats again Ace... Schwartzel holed some great putts under pressure, can I have my milkybar now pls? :)

Scott +47pts
Woodland +8pts

Running total:- 225pts

Couple of bets in the Texas tourny...

1pt EW Marc Leishman @ 33/1
1pt EW Kyle Stanley @ 90/1

I'm on Spencer Levin EW and Driscoll EW for the US event.

European wise I've lumped on Kaymer.

1 e/w on adam scott @12/1
.5 e/w on matt jones@ 100/1

3pts staked
bank 66pts.

haven't really looked that hard this week but had an interest, the euro is prob a no bet really, always tons of players at loads under this tourney and it doesn't favour any kind of player particularly, its just whoever gets a hot putter. Would love to back schwartzel but not at that price.
Euro
Simon Dyson
Oscar Floren
David Horsey

PGA - Not much idea really, the course suits these guys games so chucked em in, although Na and goydos have no current form which normally means i ignore them. Backing Kirk again after the horse has bolted probably, hope he goes off the boil again and i can back him at silly prices in a few weeks.

Paul Goydos
Chris Kirk
Kevin NA

Charley Hoffman ew @ 46 in The Texas Open is my sole interest this week.

my boy kevin Na did a 15 on a par 4 today. good work kev.

Apart from that he was -2 so still playing okay  ::)

pity it's not a stableford comp  ::)

turns out it was all a big mistake. It was a 16 not a 15 :)

Still shot 80 too.

Just been having a look at Heritage, think GMAC has drifted to backable price on a course that will suit him, not been at his best recently but that wont last forever and fancy him to have big week ..2pts EW @ 30/1

Also had little bit on Heath Slocum @ 125/1 0.5pts EW

I was checking US Open market other day and couldn't believe Furyk's price @ 50/1.. he's got some great form on a course that is regarded as one of toughest on tour, and is a previous Open winner.. I also think this will be his main target of the year and will be aiming to peak just at the right time, so early season form not a worry, great bet at price!! had 1.5pts EW @ 50/1 and had some 60 on betfair also.... Reckon he could be half that price nearer the time

Total - 213pts

I'm struggling to find any value at all in this week's Heritage.

Close but a pack of five cigars rather than a box of 25 for Charley Hoffman last week thanks to that rookie rolling in his eight-footer to deny me a play-off. Still 8/1 for the top five market was not too bad.

Nice place money.. I thought I remembered someone had hoffman !

Agree market is tight this week... I got nagging feeling might be good week for Rickie but 28/1 is skinny

I'm on Poulter in the Heritage @ 40's  (Fowler, McDowell, Molinari for smaller stakes)


I'm on Dyson in China Open @ 25's  ( J.M Singh, Yang, Noh as above )

 1ew F jacobson @ 50
.5ew B davis @ 100
.5 e/w B weekley @ 110

4pts staked

Bank 62pts.

probably my favourite course to look at this week, straight hitters required lots of lovely trees.

After rummaging around in the bargain basement I've finally come up with:

F.Jacobson @ 60 ew
J.Dufner @ 200
K.Stanley @ 280 

And a late addition:

F.Molinari @ 38

GL

Decent start Round 1 Leader -8

Singh -6
Yang -4
Dyson -3
Noh -3

COME ON THE HOOVER!

Didnt see any of the golf, 61 from Donaldson, not bad shooting.

new orleans this week

1e/w     j rose @ 22/1
.75e/w  R fowler @ 35/1
.75e/w G macdowell @ 33/1

5pts staked bank 57pts (could do with a bink)

I'm on Rose aswell Moon.... 2pts EW @ 22/1

GL us

Just a couple of small interest bets for me this week at New Orleans:

Charley Hoffman @ 48, and Spencer Levin @ 65.

GL

Im on Bubba, stricker and Levin

Goooo Bubba! Stricker goin well too!

Boom

wd

Nice one with Bubba major!!

Stan James are going 6 places in the US event this week btw

1.5pts EW Furyk @ 28/1 6places
1pt EW David Toms @ 66/1
1pt EW Immelman @ 80/1 6places

Balance 202pts

good field this week. i will be getting involved at some point.
Some quality players at big prices, just got to pick the right one.....

The tricky bit!! :)

6 places in the us event? cheers tmar all the incentive i need to get back into this again, miss my golf sweats.

Edit-Just stan james i see go top 6, mbn having an ac with them! :(

Updated balance from after us masters is 73.6 points after only woods returned me 10 pts for a top 6 finish, while couples and caberra gave sweats galore and 0 return.

Course suits good mid to long iron players with a draw, shot makers don't do well. Putting not so important.
Course could have been built for McIlroy so i have to back him despite the shitty price. Would like to back Fuyrk with his course form and decent current form but he's too short imo, i don't think he's the winner he used to be.

Had a few at longer odds with suitable games and some course form -
Vegas
Campbell
Cabrera
MAHAN

Euro tour  -
Brett Rumford
Bello
Saltman

gl us

Hey mate, how do work out what kind of players suit each course?? Just your own knowledge of the course or is there guide / preview that you using? Not disagreeing with your thoughts on above, but I been trying to get more info on the courses that I'm not familar with and what sort of players suit etc...

From the info i could find this week, i came to conclusion that although the course plays long, as its tree lined with lots of dog legs being a long of the tee wasn't neccesaary and accuracy was more important... only my thoughts though and might be barking up wrong tree, agree with the mid / long iron players (makes sense if they bit shorter of the tee?!)

look at the course guide and read any reviews you can find. I also know a couple of experts who know the courses from trading golf. Most important - Looking at players who've performed well on the course previously and then going through their detailed stats to figure out what kind of player they are - PGATOUR sites stats are amazing.

The driving requirements appear to be not the bombers and not the shorter guys as the dog legs are quite long, the bombers get into to trouble due to the tree lined punishment and the shorter hitters can't get to the corner without lashing it and again make mistakes, solid 280-290yd types. The greens don't appear to be difficult judging by the players who do well here. And people with funky swings who like to move the ball a lot don't do well, i'd back bubba to miss the cut if i dared but he's a freak, mickelson, villegas etc to. Long high slight draws with 4,5,6 irons look like the ticket.

I keep meaning to go through and figure out all their game types and create an easy reference, one day.

I quite like David Toms' chances this week and am on ew @ 90 on BF

He seems to be fully over his wrist injury and is scoring consistently again. C+D winner too.

i looked at him to, he's lost a bit of length and that put me off. GL though.

Not betting related but I played Castle Stuart this week - home of Scottish Open this year. TV pictures are going to be awesome - it's a beautiful course.

We'll not dwell too long on the standard of the golf though.....

Yeah previous course form and the stats on pgatour and golfstats sites are what i try and  base my picks on..  Just decent course guides I could do more with.. I only really started following the golf late last season so course knowledge not the best, and probs dont always get it right

Already on, but not at 90/1, sigh

I'm on Quiros and Coetzee for the euro, gonna look at the us event today

On Richard Finch, mate is caddying for him only reason but still be nice to get there!