MikkyT - We get the truth from the BBC

[ifm]

Ok i see to have caused a bit of a storm, oddly i actually took the time to think about what i posted before doing so!
I was very angry on a few levels.
Firstly i opened the thread expecting to know what it contained, i had kept a confidence remember that poppet had said Mikky was awaiting trial for hitting his kids pissed and drugged up one night during an argument with his ex.
Secondly my kids pics are in that thread.
Thirdly i had met the guy and my skin crawled when i read what he had done.
Fourthly i know 2 women who were abused as kids and i have seen from closehand the effect that has in later life.

I admit i had rashly jumped from one conclusion to another, Poppet had lied originally about the whole granny thing because she was protecting him then onto that she lied about what he actually was arrested for.
i accept that she may never have known the full extent of what he was arrested for and i appologise if that is the case, probably not good enough i know but there is little else i can do.

As some have pointed out "general population" means when you are NOT seggregated in prison, i believe that the fear of regular beatings by the rest of the prison population would be an added deterrant to these perverts. I also believe in castrating the monsters but that's personal politics.

[Dingdell]

I saw Poppet recently at Luton and asked her what had happened to MikkyT. Her answers were, I felt, genuine and the truth in her eyes. I don't think for a moment that she was lying to me - and what she thought was happening to him was a long way from what was really going on.

She told me that MikkyT had been arrested because of a fight at his Missus house where he had accidentally stamped on his childs head during a tussle/argument.

Poppet seemed genuinely shocked by that as it was but hopeful that what she had heard wasn't as bad as it was painted.

I don't know Poppet that well but I don't think that she had any idea of the nature of the true offence.

I have suffered abuse when younger, I would not defend anyone in this matter if it wasn't justified, I hope I'm right.

[thetank]

Ok i see to have caused a bit of a storm, oddly i actually took the time to think about what i posted before doing so!
I was very angry on a few levels.
Firstly i opened the thread expecting to know what it contained, i had kept a confidence remember that poppet had said Mikky was awaiting trial for hitting his kids pissed and drugged up one night during an argument with his ex.
Secondly my kids pics are in that thread.
Thirdly i had met the guy and my skin crawled when i read what he had done.
Fourthly i know 2 women who were abused as kids and i have seen from closehand the effect that has in later life.

I admit i had rashly jumped from one conclusion to another, Poppet had lied originally about the whole granny thing because she was protecting him then onto that she lied about what he actually was arrested for.
i accept that she may never have known the full extent of what he was arrested for and i appologise if that is the case, probably not good enough i know but there is little else i can do.

  ifm.

Nobody will bear any grudge I'm sure.

[sofa----king]

im sorry can someone point something out for me,
the police statment said that he watched kids porn,(fuck i feel sick writing it)
was he convicted for messing around with kids or just whacking and hitting them ??/im so sorry ive had to ask it really upsets me to even think of what he did i just wanted to know what hes been found guilty of ?

[Suited_Jock]

I think he was convicted for:

Michael Thomas, 29, a prisoner in Barlinnie, admitted using lewd and libidinous practices towards the boys, aged seven and eight.

According to the news article anyway...

[AndrewT]

im sorry can someone point something out for me,
the police statment said that he watched kids porn,(fuck i feel sick writing it)
was he convicted for messing around with kids or just whacking and hitting them ??/im so sorry ive had to ask it really upsets me to even think of what he did i just wanted to know what hes been found guilty of ?

He admitted a charge of 'lewd and libidinous practices' towards the boys and also to having 13 images of child pornography on his computer.

[The Baron]

i accept that she may never have known the full extent of what he was arrested for and i appologise if that is the case, probably not good enough i know but there is little else i can do.

Fair play to you sir.

[I KNOW IT]

im sorry can someone point something out for me,
the police statment said that he watched kids porn,(fuck i feel sick writing it)
was he convicted for messing around with kids or just whacking and hitting them ??/im so sorry ive had to ask it really upsets me to even think of what he did i just wanted to know what hes been found guilty of ?

Read the link on madasahatstands post (page1). Tells the whole thing on the sick paedo bastard

[The Camel]

Just reread the entire thread and instead of arguments and retributions I think Red sums it up the best the reaction we should have to this awful news.

Read it and think.

I reacted to this news with feelings of shock, horror, anger and disgust. As, I suspect, did you. This sort of thing always gets me, I'm crying as I type.

The sad fact is that child abuse goes on day in, day out. In every street, in every town, all over the world.

I think we all know what we would like to do to Mikky T, and if we spew it out on here it might make us feel a little better, but that wont help the next child.

Save your anger. Turn it into compassion for the child less fortunate. Turn it into vigilance for the child at risk. Turn it into understanding, when a tiny voice makes that cry for help, you may be the only one to hear.

Never, ever, turn a blind eye.

[bolt pp]

Just reread the entire thread and instead of arguments and retributions I think Red sums it up the best the reaction we should have to this awful news.

Read it and think.

I reacted to this news with feelings of shock, horror, anger and disgust. As, I suspect, did you. This sort of thing always gets me, I'm crying as I type.

The sad fact is that child abuse goes on day in, day out. In every street, in every town, all over the world.

I think we all know what we would like to do to Mikky T, and if we spew it out on here it might make us feel a little better, but that wont help the next child.

Save your anger. Turn it into compassion for the child less fortunate. Turn it into vigilance for the child at risk. Turn it into understanding, when a tiny voice makes that cry for help, you may be the only one to hear.

Never, ever, turn a blind eye.

I already read it, it was at the start of the thread

Without disparaging toms post these are all givens for any decent normal human being.

I dont know what you assume of the averege blondite to write: "read it and think" 8 pages later.

[AndrewT]

Just reread the entire thread and instead of arguments and retributions I think Red sums it up the best the reaction we should have to this awful news.

Read it and think.

I already read it, it was at the start of the thread

Without disparaging toms post these are all givens for any decent normal human being.

I dont know what you assume of the averege blondite to write: "read it and think" 8 pages later.

The fact that there were 8 more pages suggests Red's post wasn't read and thought about by enough people.

[bolt pp]

Just reread the entire thread and instead of arguments and retributions I think Red sums it up the best the reaction we should have to this awful news.

Read it and think.

I already read it, it was at the start of the thread

Without disparaging toms post these are all givens for any decent normal human being.

I dont know what you assume of the averege blondite to write: "read it and think" 8 pages later.

The fact that there were 8 more pages suggests Red's post wasn't read and thought about by enough people.

What??

no it does'nt!!!!

[wader leg]

The fact that there were 8 more pages suggests Red's post wasn't read and thought about by enough people.

How patronising!

[totalise]

how about you all let people react how they want to react, and not expect them to react how you want them to react

[The Camel]

how about you all let people react how they want to react, and not expect them to react how you want them to react

Fair enough.

All I was trying to say was blaming Poppet and arguing over details is pretty pointless.

But you're right, my post was patronising and a waste of time.