Beginning of the end for Rafa...

[Ginger]

BTW, Jane.. Please dont go mad at me coz you think I am saying you make the teas because you are female... Obv I'm saying it because, errr, Kev said you do!

Jane doesnt read this board... its the only fkin place on blonde that Jane lets me think i get to myself

FYP

[Ginger]

BTW, Jane.. Please dont go mad at me coz you think I am saying you make the teas because you are female... Obv I'm saying it because, errr, Kev said you do!

and Rooks, Kin has been Tea boy for a while now, keep with the times!

[Colchester Kev]

FML .... FMEL .... IWTDIAGF !!

[kinboshi]

FML .... FMEL .... IWTDIAGF !!

I'm sure Jane could arrange that for you.

£1,000 for charity?

[TightEnd]

Only if he doesn't have to fill in a form first 

[Colchester Kev]

I have filled the bloody form in ... !!

[TightEnd]

I have filled the bloody form in ... !!

thank christ for that 

[sweet potata!]

Grats on the screamer ...

by the way, I said I didnt think Benitez would ever win a premier league because of his rotation shit, and the fact that Liverpool drop too many points against weak opposition ... his tactical and game knowledge is soooooooo suited to European football and not bolton or stoke on a wet wednesday in november.

I wouldnt say he is a crap manager, but i stand by my opinion that he doesnt have what it takes to win a premier campaign.

Lol Kev if you have been watching Liverpool this season you would know that Rafa has more or less scrapped the rotation policy we have played a very consistent XI all season.

[Colchester Kev]

Grats on the screamer ...

by the way, I said I didnt think Benitez would ever win a premier league because of his rotation shit, and the fact that Liverpool drop too many points against weak opposition ... his tactical and game knowledge is soooooooo suited to European football and not bolton or stoke on a wet wednesday in november.

I wouldnt say he is a crap manager, but i stand by my opinion that he doesnt have what it takes to win a premier campaign.

Lol Kev if you have been watching Liverpool this season you would know that Rafa has more or less scrapped the rotation policy we have played a very consistent XI all season.

[ ] You havent dropped points against sides who you should have murdered, rotation policy or not.

[Matt50]

I dont get why supporters of football teams think that the sun shines out of their own manager's a**e all of the time.
Everybody is entitled to an opinion - my own personal opinion of Benitez is that he is a good manager, but he makes a hell of a lot of strange decisions that ultimately have proven to cost his team.  Maybe he has learnt from those mistakes, and maybe this will now be his time.
Ferguson made some massive decisions in his first few years and most of them worked- if they hadnt then he may have been sacked long before he was given the chance to show he was the best in the business.
A lot of Benitez's big decisions havent worked so far, but whats to say that that over time that wont change.

I really do wish that people would be a little more honest about their own teams and managers though.
I know Neil Warnock can be a tw*t, but i also know he is a very good manager.
The likes of Ferguson, Wenger, Benitez, Mourinho etc wouldnt be managing the clubs they do unless they were good managers, but some get luckier than others, and some learn from their mistakes better than others.

Ultimately you can only really judge how good a manager has been for your club once he has left and you can look back on what he has acheived over that amount of time with the given resources.

You cannot say that Benitez is a better manager than O'Neill or Moyes, because they havent been given the same amount of money to spend, but there is also nothing to prove that they could achieve great things with that money.

Lighten up people and stop taking every comment against your particular manager as a personal one.

[Colchester Kev]

Keith Burkinshaw was the most under rated manager in the last 30 years imo.

[kinboshi]

I dont get why supporters of football teams think that the sun shines out of their own manager's a**e all of the time.
Everybody is entitled to an opinion - my own personal opinion of Benitez is that he is a good manager, but he makes a hell of a lot of strange decisions that ultimately have proven to cost his team.  Maybe he has learnt from those mistakes, and maybe this will now be his time.
Ferguson made some massive decisions in his first few years and most of them worked- if they hadnt then he may have been sacked long before he was given the chance to show he was the best in the business.
A lot of Benitez's big decisions havent worked so far, but whats to say that that over time that wont change.

I really do wish that people would be a little more honest about their own teams and managers though.
I know Neil Warnock can be a tw*t, but i also know he is a very good manager.
The likes of Ferguson, Wenger, Benitez, Mourinho etc wouldnt be managing the clubs they do unless they were good managers, but some get luckier than others, and some learn from their mistakes better than others.

Ultimately you can only really judge how good a manager has been for your club once he has left and you can look back on what he has acheived over that amount of time with the given resources.

You cannot say that Benitez is a better manager than O'Neill or Moyes, because they havent been given the same amount of money to spend, but there is also nothing to prove that they could achieve great things with that money.

Lighten up people and stop taking every comment against your particular manager as a personal one.

I think you'll find that is what most Liverpool fans also think.  Doesn't mean he's a shite manager though, or that we'd have already won the league with a different manager.

[Matt50]

Kin, with a different manager over the last 5 years, you may have won the league, you may have won the double, but there is also the same possibility that you wouldnt have won the champions league and you may not have even made it.  No one knows what 'would' have happened with a different manager.

Question for Liverpool fans - 'if Benitez leaves at the end of his contract without winning the premiership, will you still speak so highly of him?'

[Colchester Kev]

They were slagging him earlier this season ... hypocrites, the lot of em

[kinboshi]

Kin, with a different manager over the last 5 years, you may have won the league, you may have won the double, but there is also the same possibility that you wouldnt have won the champions league and you may not have even made it.  No one knows what 'would' have happened with a different manager.

Question for Liverpool fans - 'if Benitez leaves at the end of his contract without winning the premiership, will you still speak so highly of him?'

Winning the league is the most important thing to Liverpool fans.  If he's in charge for say another 5 years and we don't win the league - the fans will be disappointed. However, if we're challenging and not 15 points off the title race come March each season, then it will be an improvement.  If he manages another European title, that will help to appease fans, but the league is the most important thing (imo) - followed very closely by Europe.

I've criticised him, and I still do.  He rotated too much when he didn't have the squad to do it effectively.  I criticise the players as well, but I try and base it all on what I've seen with my own eyes or heard from reliable sources.

I also agree that Warnock is a t**t .