Vagueness and the Aftermath - A sporadic diary

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And I wonder if they ever got that patent?

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[Doobs]

Will try and watch that Tom.  I watch lots of sailing stuff on YouTube whilst stuck in my house.

This is a very good documentary and I think it is only on iplayer for free on iplayer for 3 or 4 more days. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000lpv7/the-australian-dream

I think it will resonate with you. 

Meanwhile, I missed winterwatch, so am currently catching up.

As a follow up, this fella features quite a bit in the film, and has just resigned. 

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/feb/09/eddie-mcguire-collingwood-football-club-president-systemic-racism-report

I just checked and there is 5 months left on iplayer.  I previously said there were only a few days left, but it must have had 6 months left previously and not 6 months from the screening date.

I will check this out today Doobs although I have to admit, if it's a racism story I will struggle to watch it.

I used to consume that sort of thing alosg with all the other tough subjects, like cuelty, abuse, poverty, genocide etc, not because I liked it, but because I thought it was my duty to know and not turn a blind eye.

I'm finding it hard lately though, I suppose they just wore me down.

You don't have to watch it, but the end result is pretty positive, ending with the Aboriginal people in a better place.  They were treated horribly by most Australians for a very long time.  I guess Eddie McGuire wouldn't have resigned 3 years ago, so these films can make a difference.   It is likely still a long way to go for Aboriginal equality, but it has got a bit closer. 

I wouldn't be so worn down either, I am sure you have made a difference too.  You have definitely made me a bit more vocal on Gypsy rights, and I am sure you have changed the views of others here.  I am sure you must have changed some views of those in power too, even if it did sometimes feel like a box ticking exercise.   

I think Daniel Gordon, who made this documentary, lives in Sheffield.  Maybe there is a documentary in there for you both? 

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Will try and watch that Tom.  I watch lots of sailing stuff on YouTube whilst stuck in my house.

This is a very good documentary and I think it is only on iplayer for free on iplayer for 3 or 4 more days. 

https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/m000lpv7/the-australian-dream

I think it will resonate with you. 

Meanwhile, I missed winterwatch, so am currently catching up.

As a follow up, this fella features quite a bit in the film, and has just resigned. 

https://www.theguardian.com/sport/2021/feb/09/eddie-mcguire-collingwood-football-club-president-systemic-racism-report

I just checked and there is 5 months left on iplayer.  I previously said there were only a few days left, but it must have had 6 months left previously and not 6 months from the screening date.

I will check this out today Doobs although I have to admit, if it's a racism story I will struggle to watch it.

I used to consume that sort of thing alosg with all the other tough subjects, like cuelty, abuse, poverty, genocide etc, not because I liked it, but because I thought it was my duty to know and not turn a blind eye.

I'm finding it hard lately though, I suppose they just wore me down.

You don't have to watch it, but the end result is pretty positive, ending with the Aboriginal people in a better place.  They were treated horribly by most Australians for a very long time.  I guess Eddie McGuire wouldn't have resigned 3 years ago, so these films can make a difference.   It is likely still a long way to go for Aboriginal equality, but it has got a bit closer. 

I wouldn't be so worn down either, I am sure you have made a difference too.  You have definitely made me a bit more vocal on Gypsy rights, and I am sure you have changed the views of others here.  I am sure you must have changed some views of those in power too, even if it did sometimes feel like a box ticking exercise.   

I think Daniel Gordon, who made this documentary, lives in Sheffield.  Maybe there is a documentary in there for you both? 

I have actually started watching it Doobs.

I will finish it, I'm invested now.

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If anyone is keen to try eating off a knife BTW, make sure it's one with a broad flexible blade. There are plenty of lovely bone-handle, Sheffield steel examples on the car boot and they only cost a few coppers.


These are the ones to look for. Use them like a French croupier, with the right technique you can pick anything up, even gravy.

[hector62]

Regarding the can opener picture. The pointy end is for opening party 7 beer cans and the other end is a bottle opener.

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Regarding the can opener picture. The pointy end is for opening party 7 beer cans and the other end is a bottle opener.

A bottle opener!

Dang! Why didn't I know that?

[tikay]

Regarding the can opener picture. The pointy end is for opening party 7 beer cans and the other end is a bottle opener.

In my youth it was deemed to be cool to have an oversized key ring which included keys, a penknife & all sorts, & it always included one of those "church" tin/bottle openers. Probably not quite so cool when you wanted to use it & it took several minutes to prise it off the key ring. A must-have accessory though. Must admit I'd clean forgotten they existed until this thread today.   

[Doobs]

Regarding the can opener picture. The pointy end is for opening party 7 beer cans and the other end is a bottle opener.

A bottle opener!

Dang! Why didn't I know that?

Not just you that missed the obvious

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Regarding the can opener picture. The pointy end is for opening party 7 beer cans and the other end is a bottle opener.

In my youth it was deemed to be cool to have an oversized key ring which included keys, a penknife & all sorts, & it always included one of those "church" tin/bottle openers. Probably not quite so cool when you wanted to use it & it took several minutes to prise it off the key ring. A must-have accessory though. Must admit I'd clean forgotten they existed until this thread today.   

In my youth it was cool to have a love-bead keep-sake collection swinging from your rear-view mirror.

I used to pick Mrs Red up in my Transit and take her to the dance along with several of her mates.

Every week the mates would each give me a string of beads as a thank you and pretty soon I had a huge bunch hanging from my mirror, all my mates were envious. Then someone nicked the lot, beads, mirror and all and that was the end of that.

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[Supernova]

Fray Bentos used to do a boil in the can steak and kidney pudding. I remember my granny used to occasionally do one for her dinner and she would always give me a taste on the end of a knife. (She ate off a flat bladed, flexible knife, a habit I picked up)

Obviously I took no real notice back then, but I can't remember her piercing it before boiling.

I tried to google it but it's difficult because it's been superseded by a modern version.

I had a friend who's go to meal was a Fray Bentos steak and kidney pudding with a tin of new potatoes and marrowfat peas and they kept a tin opener about 4 inches long and an inch wide and one end used to punch a triangle shaped hole in the tins which they said was especially for this job. Come to think of it I can't remember the last time I saw one of these type of tin openers.

I remember those tin openers, I didn't know what the triangle was for until now though.

One of these?

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Yes one of those!!! You could also get them with a different shaped bottle opener at the other end as it evolved.

[Supernova]

I've just remembered these. You can't see it on the picture but the cans were only about 1/3 normal size and contained enough for 3 slices of toast. Delicious.

I used to love the chicken and mushroom variety.

I occasionally yearn for something from the past that i remember my mum dishing up and over the last couple of years I've had a tin of Spam and some Dandelion and Burdock fizzy pop, a beef paste sarnie, a sherbert fountain and some parma violet sweets - although I've got them to make flavoured gin with.

I also remember Bolton Market having an egg stall with goose, duck, quail eggs etc and also baskets of double yoke hen eggs. I think they found them by holding them up to a bright light. Apparently it's younger hens that are more likely to lay them.

My mum always used to keep a Vesta chow mein with crispy noodles in the cupboard too!!

BTW Red, if you dry your trapped potatoes in kitchen towel before frying them, they don't spit as much.

[Rod Paradise]

Fray Bentos used to do a boil in the can steak and kidney pudding. I remember my granny used to occasionally do one for her dinner and she would always give me a taste on the end of a knife. (She ate off a flat bladed, flexible knife, a habit I picked up)

Obviously I took no real notice back then, but I can't remember her piercing it before boiling.

I tried to google it but it's difficult because it's been superseded by a modern version.

I had a friend who's go to meal was a Fray Bentos steak and kidney pudding with a tin of new potatoes and marrowfat peas and they kept a tin opener about 4 inches long and an inch wide and one end used to punch a triangle shaped hole in the tins which they said was especially for this job. Come to think of it I can't remember the last time I saw one of these type of tin openers.

We had a raffle at a football do, and one of the prizes was a meal for 2. It was drawn & I realised I'd left the box with the Fray Bentos Pie, tin of tatties, tin of peas, bottle of Tizer & 2 individual trifles in the car. By the time I'd got them, and we presented them to the lucky winner, he, (who naturally thought he'd won a free meal out), had phoned his wife to tell her. His face when I handed him the box was a picture, as was mine when his wife saw me on the Main Street & gave me a bollocking for getting her hopes up. Last joke raffle prize we did .

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OMG! I haven't had a beef paste barm cake for absolutely ages.

Did you ever have it "loose" in a paper from the butchers rather than "potted"?

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Fray Bentos used to do a boil in the can steak and kidney pudding. I remember my granny used to occasionally do one for her dinner and she would always give me a taste on the end of a knife. (She ate off a flat bladed, flexible knife, a habit I picked up)

Obviously I took no real notice back then, but I can't remember her piercing it before boiling.

I tried to google it but it's difficult because it's been superseded by a modern version.

I had a friend who's go to meal was a Fray Bentos steak and kidney pudding with a tin of new potatoes and marrowfat peas and they kept a tin opener about 4 inches long and an inch wide and one end used to punch a triangle shaped hole in the tins which they said was especially for this job. Come to think of it I can't remember the last time I saw one of these type of tin openers.

We had a raffle at a football do, and one of the prizes was a meal for 2. It was drawn & I realised I'd left the box with the Fray Bentos Pie, tin of tatties, tin of peas, bottle of Tizer & 2 individual trifles in the car. By the time I'd got them, and we presented them to the lucky winner, he, (who naturally thought he'd won a free meal out), had phoned his wife to tell her. His face when I handed him the box was a picture, as was mine when his wife saw me on the Main Street & gave me a bollocking for getting her hopes up. Last joke raffle prize we did .

Haha.

What a great story. I would have been chuffed with that prize.