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« Reply #150 on: January 12, 2011, 06:37:29 PM »

http://newsthump.com/2010/12/31/referee-howard-webb-awarded-mbe-for-services-to-manchester-united/
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« Reply #151 on: January 12, 2011, 06:47:10 PM »

 



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liked this too http://newsthump.com/2011/01/10/psychiatrists-warn-of-the-mental-health-risks-associated-with-managing-liverpool/
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« Reply #152 on: January 12, 2011, 07:16:14 PM »

If the % of city's stadium is higher they have a good shout for being the club of the city though?


Fans who have just turned up in the last 5 years and think Chelsea are a big club


this

more so than any ever club

lol bullshit, quantify this.

Look at Man United, any of their fans actually live in Manc?

errmmm Yes?

7,808 of them with season tickets  according to the last (only?) study of where season ticket holders for the two Manchester clubs live (2001) found that there were more Manchester Postcodes on the Old Traffod list than there were on the Maine Rd list. Yet Citeh continue to claim the 'local' tag.
Loads more in the peripheral postcodes too.

Do Chelsea fans all live in Chelsea?


What's this as a proportion of the stadia?

Rather than clog the celery thread I'll respond to this here - Capacity in those years was around 65,000 so it's about 12%.
There were another 3500 or so that lived in the surrounding postcodes too - making c18%

The data is all rather old now, but it does rather kill the myth about MUFC supporters all living in Surrey... (which of course is actually a hotbed of Chelsea support)


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« Reply #153 on: January 12, 2011, 08:30:11 PM »

If the % of city's stadium is higher they have a good shout for being the club of the city though?


TBH the whole analysis of this is so open to abusive interpretaion that it's barely worth arguing about

But - if you can sell 78,000 tickets each game then you buiild a stadium that can accomodate that number - you then choose how many season ticket holders you want.

If you select a manchester resident at random and ask if they have a season ticket for United or City then it is more likely that they will support United than City. Does that give United a shout at being the 'club of the city'?

The study is pretty flawed if you're trying to prove one or the other so the answer to both your question and mine is probably no btw








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« Reply #154 on: January 12, 2011, 08:48:03 PM »

If the % of city's stadium is higher they have a good shout for being the club of the city though?


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If you select a manchester resident at random and ask if they have a season ticket for United or City then it is more likely that they will support United than City. Does that give United a shout at being the 'club of the city'?
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I don't think what proportion of a clubs support can possibly be used.

If you have a club with a million fans and 900,000 of them are local - is that not the 'club of the city' just because another club has 10 season ticket holders and all 10 of them are local?

The only basic measurement that makes any sense statistically and logically is what proportion of the city itself supports the club.
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« Reply #155 on: January 12, 2011, 10:47:03 PM »

If the % of city's stadium is higher they have a good shout for being the club of the city though?


TBH the whole analysis of this is so open to abusive interpretaion that it's barely worth arguing about

But - if you can sell 78,000 tickets each game then you buiild a stadium that can accomodate that number - you then choose how many season ticket holders you want.

If you select a manchester resident at random and ask if they have a season ticket for United or City then it is more likely that they will support United than City. Does that give United a shout at being the 'club of the city'?

The study is pretty flawed if you're trying to prove one or the other so the answer to both your question and mine is probably no btw










So we're agreed this 'evidence' is pants for any statistical analysis?

City club of the city imo Wink
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« Reply #156 on: January 13, 2011, 07:00:40 AM »

If the % of city's stadium is higher they have a good shout for being the club of the city though?


TBH the whole analysis of this is so open to abusive interpretaion that it's barely worth arguing about

But - if you can sell 78,000 tickets each game then you buiild a stadium that can accomodate that number - you then choose how many season ticket holders you want.

If you select a manchester resident at random and ask if they have a season ticket for United or City then it is more likely that they will support United than City. Does that give United a shout at being the 'club of the city'?

The study is pretty flawed if you're trying to prove one or the other so the answer to both your question and mine is probably no btw










So we're agreed this 'evidence' is pants for any statistical analysis?

City club of the city imo Wink

Lol it seemed to be your opinion that replacing Hodgson with Dalglish would bring immediate impact ....

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« Reply #157 on: January 13, 2011, 12:40:32 PM »

Nearly as funny as Utd as the club of Manchester!

If the % of city's stadium is higher they have a good shout for being the club of the city though?


TBH the whole analysis of this is so open to abusive interpretaion that it's barely worth arguing about

But - if you can sell 78,000 tickets each game then you buiild a stadium that can accomodate that number - you then choose how many season ticket holders you want.

If you select a manchester resident at random and ask if they have a season ticket for United or City then it is more likely that they will support United than City. Does that give United a shout at being the 'club of the city'?

The study is pretty flawed if you're trying to prove one or the other so the answer to both your question and mine is probably no btw










So we're agreed this 'evidence' is pants for any statistical analysis?

City club of the city imo Wink

Lol it seemed to be your opinion that replacing Hodgson with Dalglish would bring immediate impact ....


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« Reply #158 on: January 13, 2011, 02:14:45 PM »

anyone know how many of fc united's st holders are from the manc area? they're probs the club of the city even though they don't play in it
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« Reply #159 on: January 14, 2011, 08:56:39 AM »

anyone know how many of fc united's st holders are from the manc area? they're probs the club of the city even though they don't play in it

bout 350
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« Reply #160 on: January 16, 2011, 05:04:38 PM »

Rafael has really slotted in to the Gary Neville complete twat role at utd.

Two footed jump in against Liverpool last week, Stevie G style lunge against Spurs that only gets a yellow.Also waving imaginary cards will endear you to most fans.

For the record does anyone know if its a rule or not to get booked if you wave an imaginary card I though i had read that somewhere before but not too sure, I would have loved the ref to say to Rafael there you go theres your yellow card and hit the showers while you're at it.
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« Reply #161 on: January 16, 2011, 05:06:31 PM »

Rafael has really slotted in to the Gary Neville complete twat role at utd.

Two footed jump in against Liverpool last week, Stevie G style lunge against Spurs that only gets a yellow.Also waving imaginary cards will endear you to most fans.

For the record does anyone know if its a rule or not to get booked if you wave an imaginary card I though i had read that somewhere before but not too sure, I would have loved the ref to say to Rafael there you go theres your yellow card and hit the showers while you're at it.

I thought that asking for a card like that also meant you got one but am not sure whether that rule actually came in to effect.

I can't believe Andy Gray thought Crouch challenge was the same as Rafael's....I hate Andy Gray's commentary during a match (he's OK after it as I can switch it off then)
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« Reply #162 on: January 16, 2011, 05:07:25 PM »

Rafael has really slotted in to the Gary Neville complete twat role at utd.

Two footed jump in against Liverpool last week, Stevie G style lunge against Spurs that only gets a yellow.Also waving imaginary cards will endear you to most fans.

For the record does anyone know if its a rule or not to get booked if you wave an imaginary card I though i had read that somewhere before but not too sure, I would have loved the ref to say to Rafael there you go theres your yellow card and hit the showers while you're at it.

I agree. Reckon Rafael will follow in Neville's footsteps and become one of the best ever PL right backs
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« Reply #163 on: January 16, 2011, 05:08:44 PM »

Rafael has really slotted in to the Gary Neville complete twat role at utd.

Two footed jump in against Liverpool last week, Stevie G style lunge against Spurs that only gets a yellow.Also waving imaginary cards will endear you to most fans.

For the record does anyone know if its a rule or not to get booked if you wave an imaginary card I though i had read that somewhere before but not too sure, I would have loved the ref to say to Rafael there you go theres your yellow card and hit the showers while you're at it.

I agree. Reckon Rafael will follow in Neville's footsteps and become one of the best ever PL right backs

yea he's handling Bale well atm.
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« Reply #164 on: January 16, 2011, 05:42:57 PM »

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