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« Reply #3450 on: February 12, 2013, 01:44:49 PM »

Tighty

I am the king of substitutes of the low carb low gi variety

Happy to help, but obviously there is a bigger picture too!



bigger picture?

low gi?

PM if needbe!

ill PM later, just getting something out, id be delighted to help with this
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« Reply #3451 on: February 12, 2013, 02:00:53 PM »

Well here goes

Yesterday was a non-routine sort of day as I was in and out of hospital/school runs/dog walking while kids mum is ill

Didn't eat anything til about 3pm. Not good, should eat breakfast

3pm was far too ravenous, hospital vending machine two chicken salad sandwiches and a powerade

7pm at home Chicken (two grilled breasts) and vegetables. This was what I had in before my plans were thrown up in the air before the weekend

11pm. Hungry again. Far too many biscuits with a cup of tea

About 3am. Hungry again.Woke up. Rest of biscuits

Well,at least its honest!


today will be more indicative of standard habits

Not honest enough unfortunately.

Need exact amounts of each item complete with calories, protein, carb and fat content.

Type of biscuits as well as their contents is essential.

Quantity of powerade also required as well as what's in it.

How much water do you drink throughout the day?

Need to be much more exact then you can make little changes. If you're not accurate you won't really know when you're making a change.

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« Reply #3452 on: February 12, 2013, 03:02:57 PM »

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Didn't eat anything til about 3pm. Not good, should eat breakfast

Might not necessarily a bad thing at all.  A lot of studies are being done into intermittent fasting: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19112549
(Dr Mosley has a book out about the subject, so he obviously has a vested-interest in promoting it).

In suggests that in evolutionary terms, we haven't developed to be constant 'grazers' like ruminants (e.g. cattle, horses, other things in Findus lasagnes, etc.), and instead might be more suited to periods of feast followed by fast.

Of course, the 'feast' part should be balanced and nutritious rather than junk (although the occasional bit of 'bad' stuff is OK).

Anyway, it'll be interesting to see what the actual scientific studies into this sort of diet show.
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« Reply #3453 on: February 12, 2013, 03:39:44 PM »

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Didn't eat anything til about 3pm. Not good, should eat breakfast

Might not necessarily a bad thing at all.  A lot of studies are being done into intermittent fasting: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19112549
(Dr Mosley has a book out about the subject, so he obviously has a vested-interest in promoting it).

In suggests that in evolutionary terms, we haven't developed to be constant 'grazers' like ruminants (e.g. cattle, horses, other things in Findus lasagnes, etc.), and instead might be more suited to periods of feast followed by fast.

Of course, the 'feast' part should be balanced and nutritious rather than junk (although the occasional bit of 'bad' stuff is OK).

Anyway, it'll be interesting to see what the actual scientific studies into this sort of diet show.

There are also studies which show intermittent fasting can have a dodgy effect on insulin production which leads to it's own complications. I can't remember the exact details just read it in a newspaper report a couple of weeks ago, the biggest problem with those kinds of diets are human nature though - i.e. the feast part so massively outweighs the fasting part that any potential benefit gets lost anyway.

The reliably 'safer' option is always going to be 3 balanced meals.

NB I'd always be hugely suspicious of any 'news' article which is actually just promoting a tv programme, the BBC have got really bad for doing this in the past couple of years.
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« Reply #3454 on: February 12, 2013, 03:42:32 PM »

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Didn't eat anything til about 3pm. Not good, should eat breakfast

Might not necessarily a bad thing at all.  A lot of studies are being done into intermittent fasting: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-19112549
(Dr Mosley has a book out about the subject, so he obviously has a vested-interest in promoting it).

In suggests that in evolutionary terms, we haven't developed to be constant 'grazers' like ruminants (e.g. cattle, horses, other things in Findus lasagnes, etc.), and instead might be more suited to periods of feast followed by fast.

Of course, the 'feast' part should be balanced and nutritious rather than junk (although the occasional bit of 'bad' stuff is OK).

Anyway, it'll be interesting to see what the actual scientific studies into this sort of diet show.

There are also studies which show intermittent fasting can have a dodgy effect on insulin production which leads to it's own complications. I can't remember the exact details just read it in a newspaper report a couple of weeks ago, the biggest problem with those kinds of diets are human nature though - i.e. the feast part so massively outweighs the fasting part that any potential benefit gets lost anyway.

The reliably 'safer' option is always going to be 3 balanced meals.

NB I'd always be hugely suspicious of any 'news' article which is actually just promoting a tv programme, the BBC have got really bad for doing this in the past couple of years.

That's why I said take that article with a pinch of salt (then take a day off, and take another pinch the following day, etc.).

Are there actually any studies showing that three square meals a day is the healthiest option though (for balance)?
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« Reply #3455 on: February 12, 2013, 03:57:09 PM »

The consensus seems to be that there's no evidence to suggest 3 meals a day is better or worse than more (but smaller) meals - but like I said I have seen something written about the potential imbalance caused by fasting.

I also just had a look to see what people said about breakfast. They all agreed that 'studies' showed you shouldn't skip it - but with an annoying lack of linkage to any of these studies.

The suggestion would be that how many and how big your meals are should depend on the individual - it's just the total content has to be enough to sustain you but without being excessively more than your daily output (which obviously you can increase with more exercise)
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« Reply #3456 on: February 12, 2013, 04:02:58 PM »

I'm hugely interested in the meal size / frequency debate, but like Jon I can find lots of theories but not much scientific evidence.
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« Reply #3457 on: February 12, 2013, 04:03:09 PM »

okay there's one for breakfasts

Breakfast is 'most important meal'

BBC article on a Harvard study - and a basic summary of why, "The researchers believe that eating first thing in the morning may help to stabilise blood sugar levels, which regulate appetite and energy"
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« Reply #3458 on: February 12, 2013, 04:04:42 PM »

I'm hugely interested in the meal size / frequency debate, but like Jon I can find lots of theories but not much scientific evidence.

I strongly suspect that the 'best' thing is highly dependent on the individual, but I can't really find any studies which really explore this.

i.e. what kind of individuals will benefit from more frequent meals and which ones from less.
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« Reply #3459 on: February 12, 2013, 04:11:16 PM »

As to calore count, fat content etc I suspect this is where I fall down massively.

"Need exact amounts of each item complete with calories, protein, carb and fat content."  errrrron the labels I suppose?!

What probably seems routine and obvious to many reading this, isn't for me.

On tomorrow's food count, I'll put up relevant info, and if I don't know ask how to find out!

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« Reply #3460 on: February 12, 2013, 04:14:58 PM »

As to calore count, fat content etc I suspect this is where I fall down massively.

"Need exact amounts of each item complete with calories, protein, carb and fat content."  errrrron the labels I suppose?!

What probably seems routine and obvious to many reading this, isn't for me.

On tomorrow's food count, I'll put up relevant info, and if I don't know ask how to find out!



It's easy Rich. just google "Calories in a McVities Digestive" for instance.

http://www.weightlossresources.co.uk/calories-in-food/bakery-products/mcvities-digestives.htm


Checking the calories and posting what you eat on a public forum are both great dieting incentives.
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« Reply #3461 on: February 12, 2013, 04:48:36 PM »

As to calore count, fat content etc I suspect this is where I fall down massively.

"Need exact amounts of each item complete with calories, protein, carb and fat content."  errrrron the labels I suppose?!

What probably seems routine and obvious to many reading this, isn't for me.

On tomorrow's food count, I'll put up relevant info, and if I don't know ask how to find out!



It's not obvious and routine to check these things at all Rich. I doubt many people do it at all.

When I was heavily in to it (addicted) I weighed literally everything so I knew exactly what my daily intake was.

If something wasn't labelled with it's contents I just wouldn't buy it.

Think you'll find that pretty much everything you buy these days has all the details you need written on the packet.

If you PM me your email address I'll send you a spreadsheet I use for adding everything up.

There's apps out there that do it for you but I don't think they're as reliable as working it out for yourself.

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« Reply #3462 on: February 12, 2013, 05:40:34 PM »

The best app for this has been posted I use it all the time

Myfitnesspal

I've never read such a simple but brilliant thing on blonde .....

Freeze your bread take it out freezer walk around the block until it thaws out then have your one or two slices

It's genius!

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« Reply #3463 on: February 12, 2013, 08:41:33 PM »

Defrost it in the microwave, or use the defrost setting on the toaster...
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« Reply #3464 on: February 13, 2013, 08:26:10 AM »

Starting weight 14st 13 3/4lb
Current weight 13st 7 3/4ib
Loss this week 3 1/4lb
total loss 1st  6lb

Better week, finding the cross trainer easier. Drinking 2ltr water a day.

Current weight 13st  6 3/4lb
loss this week 1lb (sigh)
Total loss 1st 7lb

blaming it on saturday night when i had a hopkinmoment whilst watchin the boxing.

Also good luck too Tighty, the hardest thing for me is not giving up the beers or takeaways but i miss my cup tea & biccy's, could easily smash a whole packet of bourbens for fun.
No more pepsi from me pal i'll get ya a cordial same as me Wink
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