An Ape and a notebook, how long will it take?

[TL900]

I DID HOLD THE GOOD CARDS AND FOLD THE BAD CARDS IN LIVE POKER, STOPPED BLUFFING FISH

I AM NOT TRYING TO MAKE EVERY HAND A WINNER!!!!!

I STOPPED 'THAT' MONTHS AGO....

*points to signature* 

[Marty719]

I've played a lot with him and he will be 3bt-ing the broadway flush cards pre, rarely has 2p, only has 88-JJ for value and has all the low straight/ flush draws when he raises flop.

limps in front of me, I iso J10cc CO, villain calls button, and tilted bb comes along.
limpers fold
bb donks 20> 35, I flat, btn makes it 80.. donk folds, I shove 220.

he takes 2-3mins to call off.... we almost hold.


I know it looks like'standard' jb spew... but I know he had one of the few hands he actually calls with.  He just has random air most of the time.

im happy with it.  More upset about the K10cc hand vs AQ on Q4Qcc but stacks were too short to get away.

This looks alot like the old JB.

I understand that, and I know why....

However, it just wasn't.  It was measured, thought out and I had his range completely spot on.  Unless I just got lucky that he called and J high was ahead....

But meh, its clearly a little risky.

Love this diary, but must admit, a lot of my reasons for clicking on new posts is to see the next trainwreck.

Lines like the bolded above keep me coming back for more   Rooting for you to learn the abc's and start crushing, but you need to start listening.  Pleno seemed to have the patience of a saint trying to get across the same point week in week out.  Such a great opportunity for you with all these hero's, but you need a bit of humility, and to iust sit back and take in every word of it. 

GLGL.

[dreenie]

Well that sucks...

Played really well in the 30fo... only had one sticky spot where we open a pair, get peeled by someone who I 'thought' had been playing ok.

Qxx,

We check, he checks..  - ok his range his sets, weak Q's and worse one pair hands..

K

We lead small-ish, setting up nice river sizing for his stack if we brick, he
A

We set him in and he snaps....

omfg.  - J10 anyone? anyone have any Jacks and Tens? Offsuiteds? Yes pls.

How do you put him on that range when he has only called and checked on a dry? board?

Also what pair did u have

Unsure if just trolling every post I make today? Or if I'm just being paranoid?

It's a range I put someone on in this situation in this population as the majority of the hands he will do 'this' with....

Makes sense for most people to bet Qx here when they've called a UTG raise and been checked to in a tournament.  In a cash game I will regularly see someone check AQ on this board for pot control, which is again fine - but should struggle to call two big bullets ott and river if so.


What range would you think he has when he calls a UTG raise from a 'tight' player (played only a couple of hands in a few levels) and then checks this flop?

Clearly from the J10o he does turn up here with he has a lot of **** when he checks back flop, even if he somehow has Kx ott... he will be folding river almost always for his tournament life here.

We had 77 which is the bottom of our range preflop, but with his pre and flop action I think it is going to be more profitable to bet and shove good turn + rivers than to try and get value on QxxK.

agree/ disagree?

Just bet the flop?!

[jgcblack]

Sometimes we win. Sometimes we lose. Sometimes we play well. Sometimes we play like cretins. Its cards brah, stop being such a drama queen

This is my point, I'm trying to keep my cool and be like "oh i did this yesterday, we lost."

"oh we thought this guy was bluffing so we did this.."

And all I'm getting is "stop fps every hand... just get AA when they have KK, easy game.."
"just listen to all the advice"

I have, and DO... that's why I'm not 5bt bluff jamming 93o (think I did once) and that's why I'm not raise/calling 44's bvb....

But I want to know, to check, to hear "its just variance, stop being a pussy" rather than "you will never win..."

[jgcblack]

I DID HOLD THE GOOD CARDS AND FOLD THE BAD CARDS IN LIVE POKER, STOPPED BLUFFING FISH

I AM NOT TRYING TO MAKE EVERY HAND A WINNER!!!!!

I STOPPED 'THAT' MONTHS AGO....

*points to signature* 

Brah..... seriously?

This was the 1 hand in a 5/6hour session where I was sure the guy was bluffing (he was) and I made a move with x amount of predicted equity the few times he calls off with this type of hand.

As mentioned more than once, he had a bet sizing tell for value... but anyways... thanks.

[jgcblack]

Just bet the flop?!

Clearly that is an option... and vs his actual hand might have been the best play.  But vs his 'range' I expect to see him call a flop bet too much...

I'd rather see him check through to make his range more air heavy, then bet or just fold certain turn cards.

This is one of the better turn cards, and I thought a good river.  But apparently peeling JTo vs UTG is happening.

[pleno1]

I DID HOLD THE GOOD CARDS AND FOLD THE BAD CARDS IN LIVE POKER, STOPPED BLUFFING FISH

I AM NOT TRYING TO MAKE EVERY HAND A WINNER!!!!!

I STOPPED 'THAT' MONTHS AGO....

*points to signature* 

Brah..... seriously?

This was the 1 hand in a 5/6hour session where I was sure the guy was bluffing (he was) and I made a move with x amount of predicted equity the few times he calls off with this type of hand.

As mentioned more than once, he had a bet sizing tell for value... but anyways... thanks.

<33333333333333333333

[dreenie]

Just bet the flop?!

Clearly that is an option... and vs his actual hand might have been the best play.  But vs his 'range' I expect to see him call a flop bet too much...

I'd rather see him check through to make his range more air heavy, then bet or just fold certain turn cards.

This is one of the better turn cards, and I thought a good river.  But apparently peeling JTo vs UTG is happening.

Assuming the Q is the highest card to your 7's, surely a bet on flop will get him to fold a lot of his crap. If you have 77 and you don't hit a set, then surely c betting most flops is best to take it down there and then, than to see another load of high cards fall off on the turn and river?

I would imagine lot's of Kings and Aces are in his range specially when he has peeled your 'utg' open?

Would save yourself a lot of hassle in future imo.

[edgascoigne]

Have realised I may have come across a little 'preachy' in my last post, which wasn't my intention at all, apologies.

I have been in a bit of a rut/flatspot/breakeven stretch myself of late, and I think I've noticed I'm doing a few things I wasn't doing previously as a result (or perhaps cause) of this:

- Opening with less discipline from EP/MP.
- Lesser awareness of short-stacks stack sizes when playing deep.
- 3bets where, in truth, I am perhaps forcing the issue rather.
- Raising over limpers with hands I perhaps wouldn't previously: Kxs, Qxs, non-suited connectors for example.
- The occasional 'battle' where really, though I may get the best of it in the long run, there is perhaps more money to be made in the long run by maintaining an image which isn't that of a loon/fruitcake.
- Not game-selecting as hard.

These are just off the top of my head, but I'm conscious I've been guilty of each at least a couple of times in the breakeven stretch. I'm confident if I can eliminate these instances my long term winrate will be better. Obviously losing 400bb pots to 2-outers doesn't help, but there's nothing one can do about it. Unlike the above issues.

Writing them down is definitely therapeutic, and hopefully helpful for me. If you look at  the list and see stuff you're doing, work it through in your head, or perhaps draw up a similar list of stuff that you think you perhaps do that you shouldn't. I'm a bit advocate for the school of thought that admitting, understanding, rationalising and improving upon one's mistakes is the only way to move forward.

Just because variance puts you down, doesn't mean you should change something to try to turn things around (disclaimer: if you are happy with what you are doing/how you are playing).


There - that's as close as you're getting to a manhug. Now man up and win kthxbye.

[jgcblack]

Have realised I may have come across a little 'preachy' in my last post, which wasn't my intention at all, apologies.

I have been in a bit of a rut/flatspot/breakeven stretch myself of late, and I think I've noticed I'm doing a few things I wasn't doing previously as a result (or perhaps cause) of this:

- Opening with less discipline from EP/MP.
- Lesser awareness of short-stacks stack sizes when playing deep.
- 3bets where, in truth, I am perhaps forcing the issue rather.
- Raising over limpers with hands I perhaps wouldn't previously: Kxs, Qxs, non-suited connectors for example.
- The occasional 'battle' where really, though I may get the best of it in the long run, there is perhaps more money to be made in the long run by maintaining an image which isn't that of a loon/fruitcake.
- Not game-selecting as hard.

These are just off the top of my head, but I'm conscious I've been guilty of each at least a couple of times in the breakeven stretch. I'm confident if I can eliminate these instances my long term winrate will be better. Obviously losing 400bb pots to 2-outers doesn't help, but there's nothing one can do about it. Unlike the above issues.

Writing them down is definitely therapeutic, and hopefully helpful for me. If you look at  the list and see stuff you're doing, work it through in your head, or perhaps draw up a similar list of stuff that you think you perhaps do that you shouldn't. I'm a bit advocate for the school of thought that admitting, understanding, rationalising and improving upon one's mistakes is the only way to move forward.

Just because variance puts you down, doesn't mean you should change something to try to turn things around (disclaimer: if you are happy with what you are doing/how you are playing).


There - that's as close as you're getting to a manhug. Now man up and win kthxbye.

<3

[jgcblack]

Just bet the flop?!

Clearly that is an option... and vs his actual hand might have been the best play.  But vs his 'range' I expect to see him call a flop bet too much...

I'd rather see him check through to make his range more air heavy, then bet or just fold certain turn cards.

This is one of the better turn cards, and I thought a good river.  But apparently peeling JTo vs UTG is happening.

Assuming the Q is the highest card to your 7's, surely a bet on flop will get him to fold a lot of his crap. If you have 77 and you don't hit a set, then surely c betting most flops is best to take it down there and then, than to see another load of high cards fall off on the turn and river?

I would imagine lot's of Kings and Aces are in his range specially when he has peeled your 'utg' open?

Would save yourself a lot of hassle in future imo.

Clearly a cbet wouldn't be 'bad' here.

I just thought a check + evaluate would be better, more often.

I'm not an MTT specialist, or satellite specialist.
One downside of the move to iPoker for DTD satellites is there are going to be more and more competent and outright 'good' players in these satellites.

Just hope I can keep my little 'pot-o-gold' at the bottom of the rainbow quiet.

[jgcblack]

Just lost AQ vs 10's in 3bp for a lot of chips on  QQ10xx




no KQ?




And 108o vs KK for the rest... we flop hope with QJx, then turn a couple extra with an A turn.. but no joy.


Least Rob Yong can't say I've not done my bit for the GTD

[dreenie]

Sell 80% to buy direct in day 2?

20% of 1 million euros still a lot of bean!

Legoooooooo

[dreenie]

Just bet the flop?!

Clearly that is an option... and vs his actual hand might have been the best play.  But vs his 'range' I expect to see him call a flop bet too much...

I'd rather see him check through to make his range more air heavy, then bet or just fold certain turn cards.

This is one of the better turn cards, and I thought a good river.  But apparently peeling JTo vs UTG is happening.

Assuming the Q is the highest card to your 7's, surely a bet on flop will get him to fold a lot of his crap. If you have 77 and you don't hit a set, then surely c betting most flops is best to take it down there and then, than to see another load of high cards fall off on the turn and river?

I would imagine lot's of Kings and Aces are in his range specially when he has peeled your 'utg' open?

Would save yourself a lot of hassle in future imo.

Clearly a cbet wouldn't be 'bad' here.

I just thought a check + evaluate would be better, more often.

I'm not an MTT specialist, or satellite specialist.
One downside of the move to iPoker for DTD satellites is there are going to be more and more competent and outright 'good' players in these satellites.

Just hope I can keep my little 'pot-o-gold' at the bottom of the rainbow quiet.

Just feel that u turn your hand too face up once you check. Also lets say u had the Queen or better, then I'd want to get as many streets of value as possible. This being a satellite and all, I'd want to get a nice cushion so I can bully later on.
If u c bet 7's on flop, u can still re evaluate on turn depending on what card comes, but if u bet they have a chance to fold instantly which saves u all this headache.

When u jam river, hands u repping that check flop, are AK/KQ, maybe AQ but that's a stretch, so your range is pretty capped by the river regardless of his holding.

IPoker is real nitty, lots of players just playing ABC, specially in the sats, so u shouldn't have that much of a headache if u keep it simple.

[jgcblack]

Sell 80% to buy direct in day 2?

20% of 1 million euros still a lot of bean!

Legoooooooo

thought about this... even thought about selling at 1.0 purely to be fair and to ensure I would be one of "the best value" stakes on the board.

I only have one problem, I would probably be 1 hr late for day4, if I got there...

Oh, and the issue of raising £3k for me to play poker.

hmmm...