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« Reply #37515 on: April 13, 2013, 11:07:08 AM »

Couples is more likely to be underrated in both markets than Westwood as well. But yeah maths on Couples and Cabrera both better than Westwood IMO  but I might be wrong if anyone else sees it differently?

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Loads to do, but for now......

Couples value?

Something in my mind, or gut, tells me that he, &/or great golfers of his age, are inclined to fade as the Tournament progresses. I am a huge Freddie fan, almost my favourite golfer of all time, & he LOVES The Masters, but even I feel he might just drift out of contention at the sharp end.

That's how I see it, anyway, as you asked....

He was leading after two rounds last year and faded.

 
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« Reply #37516 on: April 13, 2013, 11:08:04 AM »

I wasn't sticking him up because I thought he would win; it's purely a price thing.

That said, it is always good to get such immediate feedback from the Elders on these matters, so thanks.
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« Reply #37517 on: April 13, 2013, 11:08:30 AM »

the argument that everybody thinks couple will fade is already in the price thought isnt it?

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« Reply #37518 on: April 13, 2013, 11:09:03 AM »

I know which arguably makes it even more likely he is underrated in the market

I've not backed him btw, just throwing it out there for discussion as it was put up
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« Reply #37519 on: April 13, 2013, 11:10:13 AM »

i am not sure having lots of bets on the golf market with the most analysis of any (or at least one of them) is a great idea myself

but just my view
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« Reply #37520 on: April 13, 2013, 11:11:13 AM »

Couples is more likely to be underrated in both markets than Westwood as well. But yeah maths on Couples and Cabrera both better than Westwood IMO  but I might be wrong if anyone else sees it differently?

Good morning.

Loads to do, but for now......

Couples value?

Something in my mind, or gut, tells me that he, &/or great golfers of his age, are inclined to fade as the Tournament progresses. I am a huge Freddie fan, almost my favourite golfer of all time, & he LOVES The Masters, but even I feel he might just drift out of contention at the sharp end.

That's how I see it, anyway, as you asked....

He was leading after two rounds last year and faded.

 

Thought so, or similar. Typical of someone of his ability & age, too.
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« Reply #37521 on: April 13, 2013, 11:13:53 AM »

I wasn't sticking him up because I thought he would win; it's purely a price thing.

I was backing you up because of my price calc..  My reasoning wasn't solid enough, so I can't back you up anymore, but that isn't the same as saying your reasoning was bad.

 If others want to back you or Tony wants to back you that is fine..  Don't want people thinking I am acting as Fred rozzer again.  
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« Reply #37522 on: April 13, 2013, 11:16:29 AM »

I wasn't sticking him up because I thought he would win; it's purely a price thing.

I was backing you up because of my price calc..  My reasoning wasn't solid enough, so I can't back you up anymore, but that isn't the same as saying your reasoning was bad.

 If others want to back you or Tony wants to back you that is fine..  Don't want people thinking I am acting as Fred rozzer again.  

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No, that's absolutely fine, ossifer.

I love being told how to improve. If I'm persuading the likes of you for a moment or two, it means I'm getting better.

That or I'm wearing you down.
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« Reply #37523 on: April 13, 2013, 11:17:07 AM »

i am not sure having lots of bets on the golf market with the most analysis of any (or at least one of them) is a great idea myself

but just my view

Surely it is fine if they can be shown to be value?  

I am not portfolio building just because I like having lots of bets roulette style.  
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« Reply #37524 on: April 13, 2013, 11:18:26 AM »

I know which arguably makes it even more likely he is underrated in the market

I've not backed him btw, just throwing it out there for discussion as it was put up

Yes....but this is the great Fred Couples, & the Market may still see him as having the Golf equivelant of the Liverpool effect, a Top 4 Golfer.

He is currently World-Ranked # 459.


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« Reply #37525 on: April 13, 2013, 11:19:21 AM »

i am not sure having lots of bets on the golf market with the most analysis of any (or at least one of them) is a great idea myself

but just my view

Surely it is fine if they can be shown to be value?  

I am not portfolio building just because I like having lots of bets roulette style.  

i am not saying they are not value as i am nowhere near a good enough golf judge to make that point

i am saying thread is going to end up with a lot of bets on a market with more focus on it than any other.

are the eway terms any better than a regular pga tournament? genuine question
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« Reply #37526 on: April 13, 2013, 11:21:06 AM »

i am not sure having lots of bets on the golf market with the most analysis of any (or at least one of them) is a great idea myself

but just my view

Surely it is fine if they can be shown to be value?  

I am not portfolio building just because I like having lots of bets roulette style.  

i am not saying they are not value as i am nowhere near a good enough golf judge to make that point

i am saying thread is going to end up with a lot of bets on a market with more focus on it than any other.

are the eway terms any better than a regular pga tournament? genuine question

Yes. They usually only pay 1-2-3 after the first round.
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« Reply #37527 on: April 13, 2013, 11:21:43 AM »

i am not sure having lots of bets on the golf market with the most analysis of any (or at least one of them) is a great idea myself

but just my view

Surely it is fine if they can be shown to be value?  

I am not portfolio building just because I like having lots of bets roulette style.  

i am not saying they are not value as i am nowhere near a good enough golf judge to make that point

i am saying thread is going to end up with a lot of bets on a market with more focus on it than any other.

are the eway terms any better than a regular pga tournament? genuine question

Yes. They usually only pay 1-2-3 after the first round.

ok thanks

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« Reply #37528 on: April 13, 2013, 11:33:45 AM »

I had better stop my pedantic blathering & do some work.

We have got on that Wm Hill Priority Offer, Jack Dexter @ 7/1, which I did at 0830 this morning. Whilst, as it happens, plane-spotting at Heathrow, (anorak, vacuum flask & rucksack included), which requires my i-Pad, (FlightRadar.com ftw), but which was also handy for Mobile bettering. What a life, plane-spotting & puntering!

There was definite green lights on the thread as a value EW bet, but then Chompy came along & suggested Win Only, with a view to Trading..

Dubai, (DUBAI SHOCKER) had suggested as much EW as possible.

More mindful of the status of my Wm Hill Account than anything, I eventually bottled it & invested 0.0113284,795 of Kelly, being £50 EW @ 7/1.

It is now generally 6/1 (7/1 in one spot, BetVictor), & on Betfair, 7.4, so I'm still not sure how much value we have stolen, if any.

Anyway, we are on now, & the bet is down to FRED.

We have £50 EW @ 7/1, Wm Hil, Jack Dexter, 3.30 Doncaster. 

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13 Apr 13 / 08:34  Single (EW) 1   3:30 Doncaster  –  Win Jack Dexter @ Guaranteed Price (7/1) – £100.00 O/0457483/0000394/F 
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« Reply #37529 on: April 13, 2013, 11:45:32 AM »

Woods drifting to 7 on betty.

When do we think he is value ?

If they do not disqualify him then he will be back to 4.5
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