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« Reply #43815 on: June 21, 2013, 09:22:18 AM »

Royal Skies in the 5pm seems as good a place as any for the free bet.  It is top price with Ladbrokes and BetVictor and matches Betfair back price.   There has been some talk on the racing thread.   Will wait to see if Neil posts anything up for homes for the others.   I would use BetVictor for this free bet, so we have a choice of two bookies remaining.

More news, as trying to post less: Coral are price boosting from 10.  Our free bet tomorrow, Sea Siren, is now in to best price .

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« Reply #43816 on: June 21, 2013, 09:28:02 AM »

Think true value was missed last night, as Coral were offering TAHITI to beat Spain 9-0 at a generous 100-1

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« Reply #43817 on: June 21, 2013, 09:54:35 AM »

Think true value was missed last night, as Coral were offering TAHITI to beat Spain 9-0 at a generous 100-1


Probably an account closer. Smiley
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« Reply #43818 on: June 21, 2013, 10:00:39 AM »

Royal Skies in the 5pm seems as good a place as any for the free bet.  It is top price with Ladbrokes and BetVictor and matches Betfair back price.   There has been some talk on the racing thread.   Will wait to see if Neil posts anything up for homes for the others.   I would use BetVictor for this free bet, so we have a choice of two bookies remaining.

More news, as trying to post less: Coral are price boosting from 10.  Our free bet tomorrow, Sea Siren, is now in to best price .


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21/06/2013 Promo Cash: GBP 25.00 Single: 18 ROYAL SKIES @ 11/1
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« Reply #43819 on: June 21, 2013, 10:29:27 AM »

Royal Skies in the 5pm seems as good a place as any for the free bet.  It is top price with Ladbrokes and BetVictor and matches Betfair back price.   There has been some talk on the racing thread.   Will wait to see if Neil posts anything up for homes for the others.   I would use BetVictor for this free bet, so we have a choice of two bookies remaining.

More news, as trying to post less: Coral are price boosting from 10.  Our free bet tomorrow, Sea Siren, is now in to best price .





You are more than welcome to join us Dobbs, we do cater for the Knights Templar as well on our humble little thread Cheesy
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« Reply #43820 on: June 21, 2013, 10:54:17 AM »

Brisbane. The Sun Kissed Australian Gold Coast.

Well not quite this week as Queensland has seen heavy rain

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A trough combined with an easterly jetstream has brought cold and rain all week (no need to thank me for the weather chart tikay)

Tomorrow is expected to be brighter, but its still expected to be soft underfoot.

So what?

Well the first Lions Test should be very very close, and the prevailing conditions should make it closer still. Fewer tries, more of a forward battle and a kicking duel.

I still think Australia are very under-estimated by the bookmakers. They are underdogs for tomorrow, underdogs for the series and yet the facts don't really back that up

- While the Lions players have had a long season, and a Tour trekking across the country playing twice a week for a month, the Australians have been in camp and withdrawn from all warm up games, and will certainly be fresh with a playing style that we can only anticipate. How the Lions will play is clear to everyone, that's a tactical advantage for the Australians

- In players like Stephen Moore the hooker, James Horwill the captain, the superb Michael Hooper at open side and the wonderful Will Genia at scrum Half they have the players to compete with the Lions both up front and at breakdowns. It is widely assumed that the Lions will have forward dominance. I think the Australians will get parity in the scrums, in part because of the refereeing interpretations likely to apply and could well have the advantage at breakdowns/rucks.

Why is this? Well to me the Lions back row combination is desiged to roam the wild open spaces. Croft is a wide runner, Heaslip is better in space and Warburton is not the fetch it and fetch it quick type of Number 7 that Hooper is, or in his squad Tipuric is. The Australian player Hooper could well spoil a lot of Lions ball.

- From there, both teams will have strong defences, both teams will have strong kicking games and the Australians have a very dangerous back three, if the weather allows them to have an impact

I thought about recommending unders on the points (pivot point 43 points) but my worry with that is the metronomic Leigh Halfpenny, who is a 90% plus goalkicker and could easily score 18-21 points on his own

I thought about the Australians outright at 13/8.

I then saw that with a three point start Australia can be had at 11/10

http://www.oddschecker.com/rugby-union/lions-tour/australia-v-lions/handicaps

This is very possibly, in fact I would say almost certainly, a game that will be won by 10 points or less. Could easily be less than a score either way.

Within that context odds against on the handicap with a penalty start is attractive

Within my research I looked at Australia's last six tests

Wales 14-12 (a) win
Italy 22-19 (a) win    
England 20-14 (a) win    
France 6-33 (a)
New Zealand 18-18 (h) draw    
Argentina 25-19 (a) win

With the exception of the blowout in Paris (underprepared, straight off a long journey) all the games are close, and several are within three points

The pitch conditions, going back to the start, will aid this too

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£50 Australia +3 11/10 First Test v British Lions

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« Reply #43821 on: June 21, 2013, 11:02:34 AM »

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£50 Australia +3 11/10 First Test v British Lions



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1      Australia  +3.0      Australia v British & Irish Lions
Hcap with Tie      22/06/2013      11/10      None      To Run
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« Reply #43822 on: June 21, 2013, 11:14:23 AM »

Both SportingIndex and SpreadEx have the following markets for tries tomorrow.

Australia 1.7 - 2
Lions  2 - 2.3

BetVictor have Australia 11/10 to score the first try (it loses if there are no tries scored).

Given Tighty's prediction of a close game and Halfpenny kicking loads of penalties (which seems reasonable to me) is there merit in backing Australia?

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« Reply #43823 on: June 21, 2013, 11:22:17 AM »

Both SportingIndex and SpreadEx have the following markets for tries tomorrow.

Australia 1.7 - 2
Lions  2 - 2.3

BetVictor have Australia 11/10 to score the first try (it loses if there are no tries scored).

Given Tighty's prediction of a close game and Halfpenny kicking loads of penalties (which seems reasonable to me) is there merit in backing Australia?



Lions are quoted as slight favourites because it is assumed they will have the advantage in the forwards and therefore things like pushover tries and driving mauls come into play

I am not so sure, its pretty much unanalysable

Regard the try likelihood as a genuine 50-50 toss up, and 11/10 is thus a slither of value.
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« Reply #43824 on: June 21, 2013, 11:34:57 AM »

Right decision time.  Think we should back Mutashaded e/w in the 3.05 with BetVictor.  It is a good e/w race and we get the Hughes bonus on top.  Wish I'd put this up earlier as it has been backed today.  £25 e/w is good.

We should do the nit thing and back Battle of Marengo with Hills mobile in the same race on the get free bet if 2nd thing, it is 5/6 vs 10/11 best but the free bet if 2nd more than makes up for it.

We should also be looking to back Sandiva in the 2.30 with Hills Mob.  Currently best priced 5/2 with offer on top is v good.

The bottom too are the standard £25 or whatever we are limited to.

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« Reply #43825 on: June 21, 2013, 11:36:42 AM »

Spain v Tahiti

Both Teams NOT To Score available @ 1.46 on Betfair. Best any bookies offering is 2/7 which itself looks big to me.
Spain world ranking #1. Tahiti #138.
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Recommendation. All-in.

1.46 seems fair

would not touch 2-7 though myself for all the fact they were awful at the back they attacked well against Nigeria and created plenty

obviously be a lot harder against Spain but how motivated Spain will be i have my doubts

Went off at 1.21 & won easy. Hope a few of ye got on!
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« Reply #43826 on: June 21, 2013, 12:02:10 PM »

Right decision time.  Think we should back Mutashaded e/w in the 3.05 with BetVictor.  It is a good e/w race and we get the Hughes bonus on top.  Wish I'd put this up earlier as it has been backed today.  £25 e/w is good.

We should do the nit thing and back Battle of Marengo with Hills mobile in the same race on the get free bet if 2nd thing, it is 5/6 vs 10/11 best but the free bet if 2nd more than makes up for it.

We should also be looking to back Sandiva in the 2.30 with Hills Mob.  Currently best priced 5/2 with offer on top is v good.

The bottom too are the standard £25 or whatever we are limited to.



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Single Selections
Royal Ascot 15:05
MUTASHADED (EW)
(Horse Racing Outright)
Odds: 7/1
Stake: 50.00
Possible Return:  268.75



WilliamHill Mobile

21 Jun 13 / 11:55   Single   1       3:05 Royal Ascot  –  Win    Battle Of Marengo @ Guaranteed Price (5/6)   –   £24.00    O/4191275/0000095/F
21 Jun 13 / 11:55   Single   1       2:30 Royal Ascot  –  Win    Sandiva @ Guaranteed Price (9/4)   –   £24.00    O/4191275/0000096/F


Note that I missed the price on Sandiva.

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« Reply #43827 on: June 21, 2013, 12:02:59 PM »

Right decision time.  Think we should back Mutashaded e/w in the 3.05 with BetVictor.  It is a good e/w race and we get the Hughes bonus on top.  Wish I'd put this up earlier as it has been backed today.  £25 e/w is good.

We should do the nit thing and back Battle of Marengo with Hills mobile in the same race on the get free bet if 2nd thing, it is 5/6 vs 10/11 best but the free bet if 2nd more than makes up for it.

We should also be looking to back Sandiva in the 2.30 with Hills Mob.  Currently best priced 5/2 with offer on top is v good.

The bottom too are the standard £25 or whatever we are limited to.



Why should we be backing these?
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« Reply #43828 on: June 21, 2013, 12:05:11 PM »

Spain v Tahiti

Both Teams NOT To Score available @ 1.46 on Betfair. Best any bookies offering is 2/7 which itself looks big to me.
Spain world ranking #1. Tahiti #138.
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Recommendation. All-in.

1.46 seems fair

would not touch 2-7 though myself for all the fact they were awful at the back they attacked well against Nigeria and created plenty

obviously be a lot harder against Spain but how motivated Spain will be i have my doubts

Went off at 1.21 & won easy. Hope a few of ye got on!

Nice work.
I, rather stupidly, dodged this but, as you say, I hope a few wiser people got on.
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« Reply #43829 on: June 21, 2013, 12:05:55 PM »

Potential long term position

Obviously this is a rumour, but it's from a source who has been pretty reliable in pervious seasons.  It's someone who posts on the forum of the local paper.

A large number of transfers have already been completed by Watford.  They will be ratified all at once by the FL (under the soft embargo).  They will be announced en masse at the end of next week when the squad assembles for pre-season training.  The squad is supposedly FAR stronger than last season and the signing of one player will surprise a few people.

Still some 14-1 about which is probably worth a dabble, or the 9/2 to be promoted.  Keep is small though till news is more concrete.
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