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« Reply #44055 on: June 24, 2013, 12:18:50 AM »

Spain/Italy is on Thursday according to this rbdbing's commentary team.

rbdbing's, wow - was meant to say evening's
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« Reply #44056 on: June 24, 2013, 12:59:06 AM »

Paul O'Connell ruled out of Lions Test series with undisplaced fracture of lower rgt arm

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« Reply #44057 on: June 24, 2013, 03:27:51 AM »

Undisplaced?
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« Reply #44058 on: June 24, 2013, 09:06:15 AM »

Undisplaced?

medics (and IT ppl) just make up words - they shouldn't really be educated in universities.  They should have a special college and be called apprentices rather than students.
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« Reply #44059 on: June 24, 2013, 12:49:42 PM »

Lions Second Test

The first Test was won by 2 points and genuinely could have gone either way

Australia's first competitive match for six months and I think they should come on for it

Both sides suffered injuries..O'Connell is out for the Tour, the Australian back line has lost McCabe and Ioane

Australia still have a lot of firepower though. Falau is a serious talent, scored two tries out of nothing

Australia were competitive up front, and did benefit from referring interpretations. Those referring interpretations are a source of some debate for the second Test, but I think it is fair to assume that the Northern Hemisphere team is unlikely to derive an advantage from them, even if the disadvantage of last week is not as marked

Australia missed 17 points from failed penalties and conversions. I simply cannot have that this happens again

Halfpenny scored 5 of 6, and performed to expectation


I have no idea if it is best to act now or wait til better in the week but there is undoubtedly a lot of patriotic money on the Lions depressing prices.

They have come into 8/15 outright

SportingBet are offering 7/4 Australia outright


This simply has to be punished

Very likely to be a game decided by less than a score either way, and is pretty much a 50-50 priced at 7/4


I won't say "Max" but by Rugby standards on here 7/4 is worth a chunky bet I think

A nit would do Australia +4, but 7/4 does it for me outright
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« Reply #44060 on: June 24, 2013, 01:08:31 PM »

The research for the Ashes

I do quite a bit of work around the County Circuit, and in passing ten days or so ago I got talking to a County Groundsman at The Oval, about a piece I have to do.

Anyway, I did not realise until then, the following

- Over the winter the ECB ordered and paid for upgrades of the drainage systems at all English Test Grounds

Why?

Because last summer's bad weather lost them significant revenue they wanted to improve ground infrastructures such that if play was delayed by weather it was less likely that full days play were lost (full refunds to paying customers with no play, partial refunds if less than 10 overs play in a day at Test Matches) and play would resume quicker than previously

All Test Grounds put the new systems in, and the effect has been seen this summer. Delays are shorter and in the Champions Trophy for example, played in grim weather, several games have been played where last year games would have been abandoned

So?

Two effects

- drainage systems make the pitches drier, ceteris paribus
- when play resumes, damp conditions are for shorter periods than previously

the effects of that?

- spinners! dry pitches, dusty etc even in what is another bad summer

In the New Zealand Test Series the NZ part time spinner Kane Williamson ragged it square on day 2 and raised eyebrows

Swann was a danger, and only the inept NZ batting meant he didn't come into play later on, as Anderson and Broad had taken all the wickets by then

At Headingley as we know..Swann took 10 wickets

In the CT, 62 wickets fell to spin in bad weather...yes we have Ashwin, Herera, Ajmal etc but that is a huge number

At Edgbaston yesterday Mark Ramprakash said

"I have been coming to Edgbaston for 25 years and never seen a wicket like that, its like we are in Mumbai!" and this was on a wet day

At Headingley, Atherton interviewed Flower, which was wonderful for the sparring and nuances offered by both and Flower said

"We hoped Swann would come into play, as we wanted a dry pitch"

Looking ahead to Australia and the Ashes we have an alignment of the strategic and the tactical


Strategically it looks as if UK pitches are drier than recent years due to the drainage

Tactically, Australia's batting is packed with left handers and Swann against Left handers is a real threat, as not only does he turn the ball away from the elft hander but with the introduction of DRS LBW is in play in a way it never was before technology was introduced. Finally Australia may play two left arm seamers, Starc and Faulkner. NZ played three and it created a lot of rough for Swann

Finally, Australia do not have any spin option of the quality of Swann, Panesar or Tredwell


If we accept there may be an alignment of the strategic and tactical in favour of Swann we have to accept the following

- Anderson is world class
- the weather may well suit new ball bowling
- Australia's top order Clarke apart is suspect

Anderson is favourite and probably should be

There is no hurry here, the Ashes starts mid July but will be watching for prices of over 3-1 on Swann in this market
Having lost by one wicket in the NZ series with Swann at 7-2, and thats an English test series in May against batsmen outclassed by Anderson/Broad, we should go on Swann again here later in the summer......

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« Reply #44061 on: June 24, 2013, 01:22:43 PM »

Lions Second Test

The first Test was won by 2 points and genuinely could have gone either way

Australia's first competitive match for six months and I think they should come on for it

Both sides suffered injuries..O'Connell is out for the Tour, the Australian back line has lost McCabe and Ioane

Australia still have a lot of firepower though. Falau is a serious talent, scored two tries out of nothing

Australia were competitive up front, and did benefit from referring interpretations. Those referring interpretations are a source of some debate for the second Test, but I think it is fair to assume that the Northern Hemisphere team is unlikely to derive an advantage from them, even if the disadvantage of last week is not as marked

Australia missed 17 points from failed penalties and conversions. I simply cannot have that this happens again

Halfpenny scored 5 of 6, and performed to expectation


I have no idea if it is best to act now or wait til better in the week but there is undoubtedly a lot of patriotic money on the Lions depressing prices.

They have come into 8/15 outright

SportingBet are offering 7/4 Australia outright


This simply has to be punished

Very likely to be a game decided by less than a score either way, and is pretty much a 50-50 priced at 7/4


I won't say "Max" but by Rugby standards on here 7/4 is worth a chunky bet I think

A nit would do Australia +4, but 7/4 does it for me outright

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I don't know enough about betting markets to know if we are likely to get better odds if we wait but since only SportingBet are offering 7/4 I think it is best to take it while it is available.

Bet Type: Single
Australia v British and Irish Lions Match Prices
Australia2.75
Possible Payout 165.00 GBP
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60.00 GBP
Total Cost: 60.00 GBP
Total Possible Payout
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165.00 GBP


£60 is as close to a maximum as I am likely to place.
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« Reply #44062 on: June 24, 2013, 01:24:59 PM »

2.94 on bf
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« Reply #44063 on: June 24, 2013, 01:34:27 PM »

2.94 on bf

Thanks.
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« Reply #44064 on: June 24, 2013, 01:38:11 PM »

With regard to Swann what is the injury situation?
As Tighty says there is no need to rush on this and I guess there is plenty of time for him to recover (if he is still injured).
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« Reply #44065 on: June 24, 2013, 01:44:59 PM »

With regard to Swann what is the injury situation?
As Tighty says there is no need to rush on this and I guess there is plenty of time for him to recover (if he is still injured).

Has had a minor back problem over the champions trophy, no bad thing that he's missed some of the hit and giggle cricket with 10 Ashes tests ahead

with regard to the shoulder he was back better than ever earlier this summer and said his operation over the winter has prolonged his career and was a complete success

No rush yet, assume Swann will be fit...hope Anderson gets supported and Swann goes over 3-1

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« Reply #44066 on: June 24, 2013, 02:48:38 PM »

The research for the Ashes

I do quite a bit of work around the County Circuit, and in passing ten days or so ago I got talking to a County Groundsman at The Oval, about a piece I have to do.

Anyway, I did not realise until then, the following

- Over the winter the ECB ordered and paid for upgrades of the drainage systems at all English Test Grounds

Why?
*snip*

How does the drainage of the outfields affect the square? (not having a go, it might very well do). They won't have dug up the squares at all these grounds.
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« Reply #44067 on: June 24, 2013, 04:33:35 PM »

Afternoon Mr Mere.

A fantastic rugby league match tonight with Warrington hosting Wigan, the 2 best teams and both in form. Wigan have been unlucky with injuries and have a couple of key people missing tonight. If this was the grand final I would side with Wigan as I feel they have a better team spirit, but it is just a league game. I think home advantage will enable Warrington to win the game but at odds of 2/5 they do not appeal. Instead I prefer them to win by 12 points or less as  Wigan have the best defence in super league.

Suggest £20 Warrington to win by 12 points or less @ 2-1 with Paddy Power.
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« Reply #44068 on: June 24, 2013, 04:44:17 PM »

Afternoon Mr Mere.

A fantastic rugby league match tonight with Warrington hosting Wigan, the 2 best teams and both in form. Wigan have been unlucky with injuries and have a couple of key people missing tonight. If this was the grand final I would side with Wigan as I feel they have a better team spirit, but it is just a league game. I think home advantage will enable Warrington to win the game but at odds of 2/5 they do not appeal. Instead I prefer them to win by 12 points or less as  Wigan have the best defence in super league.

Suggest £20 Warrington to win by 12 points or less @ 2-1 with Paddy Power.

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Single: Warrington Wolves 1 To 12 @ 2/1
1 line at £20.00 per line
Total stake for this bet: £20.00
Potential returns: £60.00
No: O/22838217/0000141
Total stake: £20.00
Free bets voucher: £0.00
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« Reply #44069 on: June 24, 2013, 05:29:18 PM »

Trying to find something Ladbrokes are top price on I'd a thankless task, but they are top on one horse and have been for a long time.  They don't even seem to have bothered to price up this weekend's Irish Derby.

Suggest use the Ladbrokes free bet on Libertarian in the St Leger.  I know it is doubling up, but we have to get this bet used, and given we beat Betfair then think that is the best I can do.

Whilst looking around, I noticed BetVictor have Luis Suarez to score first in the Uruguay Brazil match.  I know Brazil are most likely to score first, but they always look too short to me, and Suarez is as prolific for Uruaguay as he is for Liverpool.  Think 12/1 must be a smidgen of value. Suggest BetVictor free bet on the cheating, diving, vampiric anti-hero of our times, Luis Suarez to be first goal scorer. Spits.
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