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« Reply #106575 on: September 06, 2015, 03:43:36 PM »

Both Mercs have been called to the stewards for low tyre pressures.

Peter, any idea on what might have happened and what could happen if found to be true?

Hamilton's rear left tyre started the race 0.3 PSI below the limit imposed by Pirelli, Rosberg's rear left was 1.1 PSI below the target.

This is a clear technical infringement, I would expect both Mercedes to be disqualified here. That's the rumour in the paddock too.
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« Reply #106576 on: September 06, 2015, 03:48:21 PM »

Both Mercs have been called to the stewards for low tyre pressures.

Peter, any idea on what might have happened and what could happen if found to be true?

Hamilton's rear left tyre started the race 0.3 PSI below the limit imposed by Pirelli, Rosberg's rear left was 1.1 PSI below the target.

This is a clear technical infringement, I would expect both Mercedes to be disqualified here. That's the rumour in the paddock too.

How does one tyre drop below pressure and not the others?  Would this be down to human error or teams trying to fudge the numbers a touch?
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« Reply #106577 on: September 06, 2015, 03:50:18 PM »

Both Mercs have been called to the stewards for low tyre pressures.

Peter, any idea on what might have happened and what could happen if found to be true?

Hamilton's rear left tyre started the race 0.3 PSI below the limit imposed by Pirelli, Rosberg's rear left was 1.1 PSI below the target.

This is a clear technical infringement, I would expect both Mercedes to be disqualified here. That's the rumour in the paddock too.

How does one tyre drop below pressure and not the others?  Would this be down to human error or teams trying to fudge the numbers a touch?

It may have dropped below the target pressure, or it may have always been below pressure. Impossible to say at this stage. Almost certainly human error. I can't imagine a team would purposefully do something like this now-a-days, especially when they're dominating the championship like this.
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« Reply #106578 on: September 06, 2015, 03:54:10 PM »

Both Mercs have been called to the stewards for low tyre pressures.

Peter, any idea on what might have happened and what could happen if found to be true?

Hamilton's rear left tyre started the race 0.3 PSI below the limit imposed by Pirelli, Rosberg's rear left was 1.1 PSI below the target.

This is a clear technical infringement, I would expect both Mercedes to be disqualified here. That's the rumour in the paddock too.

How does one tyre drop below pressure and not the others?  Would this be down to human error or teams trying to fudge the numbers a touch?

It may have dropped below the target pressure, or it may have always been below pressure. Impossible to say at this stage. Almost certainly human error. I can't imagine a team would purposefully do something like this now-a-days, especially when they're dominating the championship like this.

Cheers Peter, will be an interesting couple of hours to see what the stewards do/say on the matter.
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« Reply #106579 on: September 06, 2015, 03:59:08 PM »

.3 psi and 1.1psi seems small amount, do you reckon these boys are that technical?
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« Reply #106580 on: September 06, 2015, 03:59:31 PM »

What was winning margin and safety car result?  Did roy the boy know?
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« Reply #106581 on: September 06, 2015, 04:00:49 PM »

Ticks a couple of boxes does Flitcroft. Young, northern. Darragh seems to think Peterborough is in the north, as that's where 90% of our players come from. Macclesfield, Hartlepool etc.

Also...

"During his marriage, Flitcroft had two affairs, one with a nursery nurse and the second with a lap dancer. After a disagreement with one of the women, the media began to pursue the story, so Flitcroft took out a High-Court injunction, banning media coverage of the affairs.[5]

"After a long legal battle, during the 2001–02 season Flitcroft was unmasked in the newspapers as having had two extramarital affairs."

Mate of mine has requested prices for Curnishley and McDermott from the Scuy rofflers. Be interesting to see what they come up with. Would guess it'll be the standard 33-1 for each.

Just gone up. 20's for McDermott, 33's for Curbs.

Was reportedly at the Burton Albion v Posh game.

Interesting. Possible he was there looking at Maddison, but can't believe Arsenal would be after MM? £2m is well out of Wenger's price range for one thing.
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« Reply #106582 on: September 06, 2015, 04:01:25 PM »

Both Mercs have been called to the stewards for low tyre pressures.

Peter, any idea on what might have happened and what could happen if found to be true?

Hamilton's rear left tyre started the race 0.3 PSI below the limit imposed by Pirelli, Rosberg's rear left was 1.1 PSI below the target.

This is a clear technical infringement, I would expect both Mercedes to be disqualified here. That's the rumour in the paddock too.

How does one tyre drop below pressure and not the others?  Would this be down to human error or teams trying to fudge the numbers a touch?

It may have dropped below the target pressure, or it may have always been below pressure. Impossible to say at this stage. Almost certainly human error. I can't imagine a team would purposefully do something like this now-a-days, especially when they're dominating the championship like this.

Bit convenient that it's on the left rear on a right handed track? Or is that the only tyre that would be tested?

They used to say the F in FIA stands for Ferrari. Could hardly argue with a double DQ here, but I can see the stewards saying it didn't affect the outcome, which is what Joe Public really cares about. Obviously, Nico is a different story.
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« Reply #106583 on: September 06, 2015, 04:01:47 PM »

.3 psi and 1.1psi seems small amount, do you reckon these boys are that technical?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_AzUHuqiMU

Oh yeah, those guys operate to thousandths of a PSI  Tongue

As Ted Kravtiz just said on Sky Sports F1, you can't be a little pregnant. You're either compliant with, or infringing the rule, regardless of the margin.
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« Reply #106584 on: September 06, 2015, 04:04:01 PM »

What was winning margin and safety car result?  Did roy the boy know?

25 seconds, no safety car.

Both Mercs have been called to the stewards for low tyre pressures.

Peter, any idea on what might have happened and what could happen if found to be true?

Hamilton's rear left tyre started the race 0.3 PSI below the limit imposed by Pirelli, Rosberg's rear left was 1.1 PSI below the target.

This is a clear technical infringement, I would expect both Mercedes to be disqualified here. That's the rumour in the paddock too.

How does one tyre drop below pressure and not the others?  Would this be down to human error or teams trying to fudge the numbers a touch?

It may have dropped below the target pressure, or it may have always been below pressure. Impossible to say at this stage. Almost certainly human error. I can't imagine a team would purposefully do something like this now-a-days, especially when they're dominating the championship like this.

Bit convenient that it's on the left rear on a right handed track? Or is that the only tyre that would be tested?

They used to say the F in FIA stands for Ferrari. Could hardly argue with a double DQ here, but I can see the stewards saying it didn't affect the outcome, which is what Joe Public really cares about. Obviously, Nico is a different story.

All four tyres on both Mercedes and both Ferrari's were tested.

Yeah, fans who say that do so because they don't really understand the complexities of the sport to be honest.
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« Reply #106585 on: September 06, 2015, 04:06:05 PM »

Hi Peter, i agree rules are rules. Why dont they just tell them when they check them they are too low?
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« Reply #106586 on: September 06, 2015, 04:09:07 PM »

Surely one of the big reasons for this is safety, especially after what happened in Spa and the drivers reactions. 

So if they(FiA) knew the pressures were down before the start/during the first few laps.  Should both cars have been shown a black & orange flag?
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« Reply #106587 on: September 06, 2015, 04:10:13 PM »

CBB bet please.

Ladbrokes are best price about Jimmy Hill @ 7-2 and are the only firm offering a quarter the odds three places.

He's the solid one in a field of non-winners. Be very surprised to see him out of the three as things stand, and good chance of binking the crown.

Rec £50 each-ways.
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« Reply #106588 on: September 06, 2015, 04:11:31 PM »

What was winning margin and safety car result?  Did roy the boy know?

25 seconds, no safety car.

Both Mercs have been called to the stewards for low tyre pressures.

Peter, any idea on what might have happened and what could happen if found to be true?

Hamilton's rear left tyre started the race 0.3 PSI below the limit imposed by Pirelli, Rosberg's rear left was 1.1 PSI below the target.

This is a clear technical infringement, I would expect both Mercedes to be disqualified here. That's the rumour in the paddock too.

How does one tyre drop below pressure and not the others?  Would this be down to human error or teams trying to fudge the numbers a touch?

It may have dropped below the target pressure, or it may have always been below pressure. Impossible to say at this stage. Almost certainly human error. I can't imagine a team would purposefully do something like this now-a-days, especially when they're dominating the championship like this.

Bit convenient that it's on the left rear on a right handed track? Or is that the only tyre that would be tested?

They used to say the F in FIA stands for Ferrari. Could hardly argue with a double DQ here, but I can see the stewards saying it didn't affect the outcome, which is what Joe Public really cares about. Obviously, Nico is a different story.

All four tyres on both Mercedes and both Ferrari's were tested.

Yeah, fans who say that do so because they don't really understand the complexities of the sport to be honest.

I think there was a virtual safety car for a very brief period after Nico's engine blew, does that not count in the context of the bet?
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« Reply #106589 on: September 06, 2015, 04:11:55 PM »

Hi Peter, i agree rules are rules. Why dont they just tell them when they check them they are too low?

It's up to the teams to ensure they're following the regulations, the FIA are there to police it. In the interests of fairness, penalties are given to anyone who breeches.

Surely one of the big reasons for this is safety, especially after what happened in Spa and the drivers reactions.  

So if they(FiA) knew the pressures were down before the start/during the first few laps.  Should both cars have been shown a black & orange flag?

I believe (although am uncertain) that Pirelli took the measurements, the FIA will (probably) have only found out after the race when Pirelli submitted their technical report.
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