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« Reply #134670 on: December 02, 2018, 06:31:44 PM »

Nice write-up on BE this week Mr Prew Smiley
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« Reply #134671 on: December 02, 2018, 08:42:18 PM »

X factor winner to have Christmas number 1 at 12/1
Happened 7 times since 2005, other winners were military wives, the justice collective, nhs choir and Ed sheeran
And they’ve got the best talent ever in Dalton this year, pretty much every guest artist they’ve had on has said how good he is
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« Reply #134672 on: December 02, 2018, 08:49:42 PM »

X factor winner to have Christmas number 1 at 12/1
Happened 7 times since 2005, other winners were military wives, the justice collective, nhs choir and Ed sheeran
And they’ve got the best talent ever in Dalton this year, pretty much every guest artist they’ve had on has said how good he is
Any thoughts

Not seen many guest artists say any of the artists aren't great, lol... They think the public are deaf Grin
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« Reply #134673 on: December 02, 2018, 08:55:32 PM »

I meant they all said dalton, never any of the others lol
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« Reply #134674 on: December 02, 2018, 09:30:33 PM »

X factor winner to have Christmas number 1 at 12/1
Happened 7 times since 2005, other winners were military wives, the justice collective, nhs choir and Ed sheeran
And they’ve got the best talent ever in Dalton this year, pretty much every guest artist they’ve had on has said how good he is
Any thoughts

Xmas number one is not like it used to be - there’s a reason why the song that’s been number one for the last 4 weeks is 7/4 favourite. In order for a song to reach the top people need to actually listen to it on Spotify/Youtube etc.

When the Xfactor person used to get to the xmas number one every year it was through people buying the record in the week before xmas, not because they actually listened to it when they got home. No one’s listening to this xfactor stuff on spotify.
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« Reply #134675 on: December 02, 2018, 10:00:44 PM »

Not many 'cause' songs this year?

Think an X-Factor single is always gonna be in with a shout (sadly). I don't watch it so no idea who's who and whatnot but there will always be some popularity behind the winner.
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« Reply #134676 on: December 03, 2018, 01:59:38 AM »

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Watched the majority of this (not tonights). Harry is a clear (odds on) favorite (rightly so) but the deeper it gets into it the less I like him at these prices... He's starting to get a little irritable on occasions and I feel like he's going to lose some of his sway with the public if this keeps happening.

Emily I love but I'm not sure if she's 'celebrity' enough to win vs the competition... Not had the biggest career... At 7/2 I'll pass.

Fleur I like but again perhaps not 'celebrity' enough to win vs the competition.... She's all singing all dancing (maybe a bit too full on to connect with people) and has already lost a public vote on the xfactor final in 2014 vs modest but likable competition... Pass at 5/1

John divides opinion too much, seems fake imo. (Has just sprained his ankle - may withdraw)... No bet @ 16/1

I'm surprised to see Nick as long as he is... Nice chap who puts everybody first. A leader. Theres a tenner @ 29/1 on betfair... Wouldn't be a bad bet.

Anne... Loveable and respect her going in there but boring and thats starting to outweigh the positives for me... Potential early casualty to the public vote. Also a very real chance she withdraws herself... Abysmal bet @ 25/1.

Rita I just can't see it. Expect her to be one of the next couple out.

Sair - The episode she was heavily featured in (trial) she nailed it and came across well. Seems to be a tad to quiet / dull to get any real attention from the cameras... Shame because she COULD be really likable. She's also a main character in Coronation Street which averages ~7million views per episode.... couple of quid @ 200s available on betfair wouldn't be a bad shout just in case she grows into it.

Now on to my bet:

James @ 40/1 (small amount @ 50s available on Betfair).

Likable. Seems to be growing in confidence and getting more airtime. Has befriended Harry who gets tons of it.... Is camp leader at the moment so is gonna continue getting more and more.

But the main reason is this:

https://twitter.com/TheVampsJames - 1.77 Million followers
https://twitter.com/Redknapp - 257k followers
https://twitter.com/EmAtack - 133k followers
https://twitter.com/FleurEast - 243k followers
https://twitter.com/JohnBarrowman - 500k followers (sprained ankle - may withdraw)
https://twitter.com/MrNickKnowles - 131k followers
https://twitter.com/anne_hegerty - 82k followers
https://twitter.com/SairKhan - 54k followers
https://twitter.com/OfficialRita - 390k followers

Over 3.5x more than the next closest and get approx 5x more interactions on post on average, but we've gotta break down that demographic of followers.... James is in a Boy band (the vamps)... There will be lots of teen girls / young women (you all know what they're like... Think Justin Beiber fans...etc - mad).

This demographic WILL download apps and WILL vote... This generation is literally glued to devices. You get 5x FREE VOTES on the app EVERY TIME. Phone votes (the older crowd) cost money and takes effort.... Football fans (Harry) just can't be arsed.

40/1 seems huge to me.

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« Reply #134677 on: December 03, 2018, 05:54:49 AM »

Sorry meant to say I think twitter matters a lot as it’s the main social channel the ‘celebrities’ (the people running their accounts) appeal for votes and push their in a celeb content.. James having an audience 3.5x the size vs next highest to ask for votes is a big deal imo... as is the demographic of fans.
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« Reply #134678 on: December 03, 2018, 10:01:15 AM »

Don’t the bookies kind of know though?

They rarely seem to get it wrong outside of front 2 in these type of markets?

Must be some kind of leaking of results somewhere?
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« Reply #134679 on: December 03, 2018, 02:05:14 PM »

Don’t the bookies kind of know though?

They rarely seem to get it wrong outside of front 2 in these type of markets?

Must be some kind of leaking of results somewhere?

Im just putting together the fact he’s likely gonna be getting more airtime and is coming out of his shall more every day with his audience on social media (more valuable in the late rounds where they’ll likely be pushing hard - his band also has 4m followers).

Reality tv is all about people’s opinions . I’m giving mine why I think he’s gonna grow into it and imo why he hasthe potential to pick up votes he wouldn’t otherwise at the comp goes on
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« Reply #134680 on: December 03, 2018, 03:25:31 PM »

Nice write-up on BE this week Mr Prew Smiley

cheers nice to get one in
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« Reply #134681 on: December 03, 2018, 03:26:30 PM »

Not many 'cause' songs this year?

Think an X-Factor single is always gonna be in with a shout (sadly). I don't watch it so no idea who's who and whatnot but there will always be some popularity behind the winner.

think one issue is that x factor ratings are at an all time low

Hasn't come on in my house this year once, to use a hugely representative sample. always had to "suffer" it previously
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« Reply #134682 on: December 03, 2018, 03:28:25 PM »

IACGMOOH:

Watched the majority of this (not tonights). Harry is a clear (odds on) favorite (rightly so) but the deeper it gets into it the less I like him at these prices... He's starting to get a little irritable on occasions and I feel like he's going to lose some of his sway with the public if this keeps happening.

Emily I love but I'm not sure if she's 'celebrity' enough to win vs the competition... Not had the biggest career... At 7/2 I'll pass.

Fleur I like but again perhaps not 'celebrity' enough to win vs the competition.... She's all singing all dancing (maybe a bit too full on to connect with people) and has already lost a public vote on the xfactor final in 2014 vs modest but likable competition... Pass at 5/1

John divides opinion too much, seems fake imo. (Has just sprained his ankle - may withdraw)... No bet @ 16/1

I'm surprised to see Nick as long as he is... Nice chap who puts everybody first. A leader. Theres a tenner @ 29/1 on betfair... Wouldn't be a bad bet.

Anne... Loveable and respect her going in there but boring and thats starting to outweigh the positives for me... Potential early casualty to the public vote. Also a very real chance she withdraws herself... Abysmal bet @ 25/1.

Rita I just can't see it. Expect her to be one of the next couple out.

Sair - The episode she was heavily featured in (trial) she nailed it and came across well. Seems to be a tad to quiet / dull to get any real attention from the cameras... Shame because she COULD be really likable. She's also a main character in Coronation Street which averages ~7million views per episode.... couple of quid @ 200s available on betfair wouldn't be a bad shout just in case she grows into it.

Now on to my bet:

James @ 40/1 (small amount @ 50s available on Betfair).

Likable. Seems to be growing in confidence and getting more airtime. Has befriended Harry who gets tons of it.... Is camp leader at the moment so is gonna continue getting more and more.

But the main reason is this:

https://twitter.com/TheVampsJames - 1.77 Million followers
https://twitter.com/Redknapp - 257k followers
https://twitter.com/EmAtack - 133k followers
https://twitter.com/FleurEast - 243k followers
https://twitter.com/JohnBarrowman - 500k followers (sprained ankle - may withdraw)
https://twitter.com/MrNickKnowles - 131k followers
https://twitter.com/anne_hegerty - 82k followers
https://twitter.com/SairKhan - 54k followers
https://twitter.com/OfficialRita - 390k followers

Over 3.5x more than the next closest and get approx 5x more interactions on post on average, but we've gotta break down that demographic of followers.... James is in a Boy band (the vamps)... There will be lots of teen girls / young women (you all know what they're like... Think Justin Beiber fans...etc - mad).

This demographic WILL download apps and WILL vote... This generation is literally glued to devices. You get 5x FREE VOTES on the app EVERY TIME. Phone votes (the older crowd) cost money and takes effort.... Football fans (Harry) just can't be arsed.

40/1 seems huge to me.



I like Emily Atack. surely going to get a lot of work on the back of this. genuine, funny etc

anyway

at 40/1 what's not to like? we know the "upsides" aren't in the price if there are any

James McVey Winner @ 40/1
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Mon Dec 03 2018 15:27:51
Receipt ID:
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Bet Type:
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Total Stake
10.00
Estimated Returns
410.00
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« Reply #134683 on: December 03, 2018, 07:49:57 PM »

SPOTY

Does anyone have a view on the likely effect the change to on the night voting will have on the outcome? Obviously it means there won’t be any Jonny Rea’s filling a place but does anyone feel the change will have a positive or negative impact on any of the front runners?
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« Reply #134684 on: December 03, 2018, 08:42:38 PM »

IACGMOOH:

Watched the majority of this (not tonights). Harry is a clear (odds on) favorite (rightly so) but the deeper it gets into it the less I like him at these prices... He's starting to get a little irritable on occasions and I feel like he's going to lose some of his sway with the public if this keeps happening.

Emily I love but I'm not sure if she's 'celebrity' enough to win vs the competition... Not had the biggest career... At 7/2 I'll pass.

Fleur I like but again perhaps not 'celebrity' enough to win vs the competition.... She's all singing all dancing (maybe a bit too full on to connect with people) and has already lost a public vote on the xfactor final in 2014 vs modest but likable competition... Pass at 5/1

John divides opinion too much, seems fake imo. (Has just sprained his ankle - may withdraw)... No bet @ 16/1

I'm surprised to see Nick as long as he is... Nice chap who puts everybody first. A leader. Theres a tenner @ 29/1 on betfair... Wouldn't be a bad bet.

Anne... Loveable and respect her going in there but boring and thats starting to outweigh the positives for me... Potential early casualty to the public vote. Also a very real chance she withdraws herself... Abysmal bet @ 25/1.

Rita I just can't see it. Expect her to be one of the next couple out.

Sair - The episode she was heavily featured in (trial) she nailed it and came across well. Seems to be a tad to quiet / dull to get any real attention from the cameras... Shame because she COULD be really likable. She's also a main character in Coronation Street which averages ~7million views per episode.... couple of quid @ 200s available on betfair wouldn't be a bad shout just in case she grows into it.

Now on to my bet:

James @ 40/1 (small amount @ 50s available on Betfair).

Likable. Seems to be growing in confidence and getting more airtime. Has befriended Harry who gets tons of it.... Is camp leader at the moment so is gonna continue getting more and more.

But the main reason is this:

https://twitter.com/TheVampsJames - 1.77 Million followers
https://twitter.com/Redknapp - 257k followers
https://twitter.com/EmAtack - 133k followers
https://twitter.com/FleurEast - 243k followers
https://twitter.com/JohnBarrowman - 500k followers (sprained ankle - may withdraw)
https://twitter.com/MrNickKnowles - 131k followers
https://twitter.com/anne_hegerty - 82k followers
https://twitter.com/SairKhan - 54k followers
https://twitter.com/OfficialRita - 390k followers

Over 3.5x more than the next closest and get approx 5x more interactions on post on average, but we've gotta break down that demographic of followers.... James is in a Boy band (the vamps)... There will be lots of teen girls / young women (you all know what they're like... Think Justin Beiber fans...etc - mad).

This demographic WILL download apps and WILL vote... This generation is literally glued to devices. You get 5x FREE VOTES on the app EVERY TIME. Phone votes (the older crowd) cost money and takes effort.... Football fans (Harry) just can't be arsed.

40/1 seems huge to me.



I like Emily Atack. surely going to get a lot of work on the back of this. genuine, funny etc

anyway

at 40/1 what's not to like? we know the "upsides" aren't in the price if there are any

James McVey Winner @ 40/1
Im A Celebrity
Mon Dec 03 2018 15:27:51
Receipt ID:
O/0457483/0002357/F
Bet Type:
Single Bet
Total Stake
10.00
Estimated Returns
410.00


With Tighty on this.

She has same sort of profile as Moffatt and Toff bird from last year. Seems genuine too.

Too much has been written about Fleur to make me think she is this nice off screen.
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