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Question: Do you agree that Scotland should be an independent country?
Yes - because it would be better for the Scots
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« Reply #975 on: September 11, 2014, 12:01:10 PM »


Ooh the irony

Anybody else always reminded of the Nazi Eagle when visiting that site?

If KMAC had his way all Tory voters would have to wear Cs and have their wealth removed.

Still hasn't substantiated his slur on the standard life boss, other than lazy sharing of yes propoganda.
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« Reply #976 on: September 11, 2014, 12:01:10 PM »

Scotsman comes out on the no side

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-29154239
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« Reply #977 on: September 11, 2014, 12:04:27 PM »


Ooh the irony

Anybody else always reminded of the Nazi Eagle when visiting that site?

If KMAC had his way all Tory voters would have to wear Cs and have their wealth removed.

Still hasn't substantiated his slur on the standard life boss, other than lazy sharing of yes propoganda.

Not at all. 

Slur?  Ha. 
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« Reply #978 on: September 11, 2014, 12:05:07 PM »

Scotsman comes out on the no side

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-29154239

Shock horror. Who next the Torygraph.
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« Reply #979 on: September 11, 2014, 12:25:40 PM »


Ooh the irony

Anybody else always reminded of the Nazi Eagle when visiting that site?

If KMAC had his way all Tory voters would have to wear Cs and have their wealth removed.

Still hasn't substantiated his slur on the standard life boss, other than lazy sharing of yes propoganda.

Not at all. 

Slur?  Ha. 

I would just like to see were he confirms his views on minimum wage and nhs? Apart from once (not now) being on the advisory Board (not company board), so having some input in a think tank. Doesn't seen worthy of spreading all over social media to defame his character.
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« Reply #980 on: September 11, 2014, 12:32:08 PM »

Oooft, Salmond rips Nick Robinson a new arsehole at his press conference. 

Calls out the BBC/Treasury Spokesperson who leaked market sensitive information last night. 
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« Reply #981 on: September 11, 2014, 12:33:59 PM »


Ooh the irony

Anybody else always reminded of the Nazi Eagle when visiting that site?

If KMAC had his way all Tory voters would have to wear Cs and have their wealth removed.

Still hasn't substantiated his slur on the standard life boss, other than lazy sharing of yes propoganda.

Not at all. 

Slur?  Ha. 

I would just like to see were he confirms his views on minimum wage and nhs? Apart from once (not now) being on the advisory Board (not company board), so having some input in a think tank. Doesn't seen worthy of spreading all over social media to defame his character.

http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/09/standard-life-far-right-board/
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« Reply #982 on: September 11, 2014, 12:39:23 PM »


Ooh the irony

Anybody else always reminded of the Nazi Eagle when visiting that site?

If KMAC had his way all Tory voters would have to wear Cs and have their wealth removed.

Still hasn't substantiated his slur on the standard life boss, other than lazy sharing of yes propoganda.

Not at all. 

Slur?  Ha. 

I would just like to see were he confirms his views on minimum wage and nhs? Apart from once (not now) being on the advisory Board (not company board), so having some input in a think tank. Doesn't seen worthy of spreading all over social media to defame his character.

http://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2014/09/standard-life-far-right-board/

I read that, he is not impartial and shows no links. This is exactly the link I read which I assumed was your "source".
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« Reply #983 on: September 11, 2014, 12:45:08 PM »

Who is impartial?
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« Reply #984 on: September 11, 2014, 12:56:41 PM »

Who is impartial?

There is levels of impartiality. Quoting Wings over Scotland or Craig Murray is the polar end for your side.  In the same way as quoting better together is on the flip side.

I am just trying to highlight my belief that you simply regurgitate material taken from all the Yes sites and do not have any genuine research of your own or any independent thought. You are the one going door to door for "the cause". You shared a link to I assume discredit Standard Life which is a false statement hurriedly typed up or retyped by the yes campaign to fight for FB newsfeed space which is clogged with read stories based on actual news releases by real businesses.
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« Reply #985 on: September 11, 2014, 01:10:56 PM »

Who is impartial?

There is levels of impartiality. Quoting Wings over Scotland or Craig Murray is the polar end for your side.  In the same way as quoting better together is on the flip side.

I am just trying to highlight my belief that you simply regurgitate material taken from all the Yes sites and do not have any genuine research of your own or any independent thought. You are the one going door to door for "the cause". You shared a link to I assume discredit Standard Life which is a false statement hurriedly typed up or retyped by the yes campaign to fight for FB newsfeed space which is clogged with read stories based on actual news releases by real businesses.

Or drip fedby UK govt, did you see Ross McEwans comments.

Also this is not an arguement I cpme across on the many doorsteps I have been on.
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« Reply #986 on: September 11, 2014, 01:27:42 PM »

Who is impartial?

There is levels of impartiality. Quoting Wings over Scotland or Craig Murray is the polar end for your side.  In the same way as quoting better together is on the flip side.

I am just trying to highlight my belief that you simply regurgitate material taken from all the Yes sites and do not have any genuine research of your own or any independent thought. You are the one going door to door for "the cause". You shared a link to I assume discredit Standard Life which is a false statement hurriedly typed up or retyped by the yes campaign to fight for FB newsfeed space which is clogged with read stories based on actual news releases by real businesses.

Or drip fedby UK govt, did you see Ross McEwans comments.

Also this is not an arguement I cpme across on the many doorsteps I have been on.

I assume you are campaigning in SNP heartland then. That's the problem with the yes campaign. You have chosen a tact that is alienating everyone but the working class. This "nothing to lose" mentality. I thought we were working together for a better Scotland? Nothing I view on social media engages me to think I am part of this process, as the financial industry which employees 100s of thousands and is relied on by millions for savings, investments and mortgages is the area most uncertain. Telling people you will pay for their removal van will not help this. Nor will parking a yes van in my garden and keeping me up singing songs either lol

Trust me, the "fuck em they caused this mess attitude" will lose considerably more votes than it gains.  My neighbour at work is finally cracking after 3 weeks of battling me. I expect similar elsewhere.
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« Reply #987 on: September 11, 2014, 01:48:25 PM »

A letter by the Governor of the Bank of England shows that an independent Scotland would require "huge reserves" of sterling, a senior MP has said.

Treasury Select Committee chairman Andrew Tyrie recieved the letter from Mark Carney today. It outlines the reserves held by Hong Kong, Denmark, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania - all of which have adopted another currency outside a formal currency union or are pegged to another currency.

Mr Tyrie said: "The Governor’s letter demonstrates that, whatever currency arrangement is chosen, a separate Scotland would require huge reserves.

"The Governor noted that £15bn would be at the 'upper end of the range' that Scotland might reasonably inherit as reserves. Scotland would need a multiple of that. The comparisons with Denmark and Hong Kong in the Governor’s note say it all.

"Meeting the shortfall in reserves means that Scotland would, as the Governor also pointed out, face ‘real fiscal costs’.

"Scotland’s ability to borrow would be heavily restricted. Obtaining the reserves would mean much higher taxes or lower spending, or both, for years to come."

It follows the news that two of Britain’s biggest banks have made contingency plans to leave Scotland in the event of a ‘yes’ vote in the independence referendum.

The Royal Bank of Scotland has announced it will consider moving its headquarters to London if Scotland becomes independent after the vote in September 18th.

Meanwhile, Lloyds Banking Group confirmed it was considering shifting its business away from Scotland. “We have contingency plans in place which include the establishment of new legal entities in England," the bank said.

Business Secretary Vince Cable told MPs this morning an independent Scotland "would not be able to support" large financial institutions, while his Labour counterpart Chuka Umunna warned of a "lorry-load of uncertainty" in the banking sector.

Mr Tyrie said: "RBS and Lloyds appear to have concluded that this would be unrealistic for Scotland even to attempt and that therefore a separate Scotland could not provide a credible guarantee for deposits.

"That is probably why RBS and Lloyds have announced that they would move their headquarters following Scottish independence. They would need to protect their customers and shareholders."

Alex Salmond accused the Treasury of leaking the details of the RBS move.

"A totally extraordinary development in the campaign. There can be no greater difficulty for anyone in government to be caught briefing market sensitive information," he said.

"I will be writing to the Cabinet Secretary today to ask for an immediate investigation as to who in the treasury was briefing such information."

http://www.politicshome.com/uk/story/44254/
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« Reply #988 on: September 11, 2014, 01:50:12 PM »


Ooh the irony

Anybody else always reminded of the Nazi Eagle when visiting that site?

65 pages in and Godwin's Law strikes.

I think most folks would have bought at <20
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« Reply #989 on: September 11, 2014, 01:52:06 PM »

We're all waiting for Kmac's 1000th post in which he reveals he is actually Alastair Darling and has been running a successful fifth column campaign.
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