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« Reply #225 on: April 30, 2012, 01:25:00 PM »

We're not going to have another long discussion about whether a particular player is 'World Class', something which doesn't even have a proper definition. are we?

Very few teams would not swap their keeper for Joe Hart - Real Madrid, Bayern, ?

Would Barca swap Valdes?


It's all subjective, of course

I'll take Hart A Cole and Rooney as the three Englishmen who would get into most if not all Euro Championship teams

I'll concede that Spain and Germany would happily keep Casillas and Neuer respectively, as would I

Id guarantee you Italy would not swap Buffon for any keeper in the world.
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« Reply #226 on: April 30, 2012, 01:26:27 PM »

Buffon is mid 30s, with under 5 years left?

I'll take Casillas, Neuer or Hart please

Again, all subjective
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« Reply #227 on: April 30, 2012, 01:26:46 PM »

I expect all of that will be ignored though if we fail. The ludicrous sense of entitlement that lots of fans have that England will do well in every tournament seems as misplaced to me as it was 10-15 years ago.

Really ? I agree regards the press overhyping, as per, but unlike other previous tournaments I haven't spoken to one person who even thinks we have a slight chance of winning the tournament. This is actually the 1st tournament where as a whole we seem pretty realistic about our chances, will be tough to get out the group but we should, then we'll need a lot of luck to get any further.

Got to agree with Mon - even on this thread there seems a far more realistic view than in previous years. It's quite disconcerting as I'm going to have to find another PC reason for wanting England to lose ;-)

Here you go.

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« Reply #228 on: April 30, 2012, 01:32:12 PM »

We have I think only three players of genuine world class: Hart

After one season at a high level?


Has been Man C's keeper for over 2 seasons now, with over 120 appearances

I think he is top class, behind Casillas/Neuer but pretty close. Only 25yo and getting better


I'm not sure the term world class applies yet - although I can't deny he's on his way. After one/two seasons the likes of Cech, Dudek, Barthez were "world class".

Casillas has been doing it for years. What about Cesar? Buffon? The fella from Ajax is meant to be pretty mustard though I don't claim to watch too much Dutch footy.
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« Reply #229 on: April 30, 2012, 01:35:24 PM »

I expect all of that will be ignored though if we fail. The ludicrous sense of entitlement that lots of fans have that England will do well in every tournament seems as misplaced to me as it was 10-15 years ago.

Really ? I agree regards the press overhyping, as per, but unlike other previous tournaments I haven't spoken to one person who even thinks we have a slight chance of winning the tournament. This is actually the 1st tournament where as a whole we seem pretty realistic about our chances, will be tough to get out the group but we should, then we'll need a lot of luck to get any further.

Got to agree with Mon - even on this thread there seems a far more realistic view than in previous years. It's quite disconcerting as I'm going to have to find another PC reason for wanting England to lose ;-)

Here you go.



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« Reply #230 on: April 30, 2012, 01:43:31 PM »

If most England fans are realistic now about their chances, by the time the tournament begins I bet everyone will have convinced themselves England can win it. It happens every time.  Then when they draw the first game, they'll start to wonder what might have happened if Redknapp was in charge.  Then when they don't qualify for the knock-out stages they'll be ready to lynch Hodgson and the tabloids will be covered in vegetable type photoshops of him and demands for Redkanpp to take control for the World Cup qualifiers.
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« Reply #231 on: April 30, 2012, 02:59:37 PM »

If a player is the captain of one of the best football sides in the best league in the world. Has captained his club and country in a stellar footballing career with many CL games, prem games, and international tournaments under his belt. And he is still captain of that club and a regular starter for the 7th best nation in world football he is by definition world class. You might not fancy the player but if he is a proven performer on the world stage he is world class.
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« Reply #232 on: April 30, 2012, 03:02:19 PM »

If a player is the captain of one of the best football sides in the best league in the world. Has captained his club and country in a stellar footballing career with many CL games, prem games, and international tournaments under his belt. And he is still captain of that club and a regular starter for the 7th best nation in world football he is by definition world class. You might not fancy the player but if he is a proven performer on the world stage he is world class.

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« Reply #233 on: April 30, 2012, 03:16:18 PM »

If a player is the captain of one of the best football sides in the best league in the world. Has captained his club and country in a stellar footballing career with many CL games, prem games, and international tournaments under his belt. And he is still captain of that club and a regular starter for the 7th best nation in world football he is by definition world class. You might not fancy the player but if he is a proven performer on the world stage he is world class.

Stand up Stevie G!

Calm down Aaron - he said 'best football sides'
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« Reply #234 on: April 30, 2012, 03:30:00 PM »

If a player is the captain of one of the best football sides in the best league in the world. Has captained his club and country in a stellar footballing career with many CL games, prem games, and international tournaments under his belt. And he is still captain of that club and a regular starter for the 7th best nation in world football he is by definition world class. You might not fancy the player but if he is a proven performer on the world stage he is world class.

Stand up Stevie G!

Calm down Aaron - he said 'best football sides'

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« Reply #235 on: April 30, 2012, 07:46:36 PM »

I have a ,feeling Harry doesn't really pass due diligence.  Think Hodgson is fine but will still be blamed when they failbecause we don't have the talent.
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« Reply #236 on: April 30, 2012, 07:49:17 PM »

I tend to agree

If the job was about conducting impromptu press conferences out of a car window to an eager pack of press scribes, and leaking titbits to help achieve your end goal, Harry would be a shoe-in

I would think the situation at Spurs will now stabilise and they'll crack on next year after fading away very badly March onwards this season
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« Reply #237 on: April 30, 2012, 07:55:16 PM »

I tend to agree

If the job was about conducting impromptu press conferences out of a car window to an eager pack of press scribes, and leaking titbits to help achieve your end goal, Harry would be a shoe-in

I would think the situation at Spurs will now stabilise and they'll crack on next year after fading away very badly March onwards this season


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« Reply #238 on: April 30, 2012, 08:05:58 PM »

Sorry if this point has been mentioned before..

It is really starting to piss me off how overlooking Redknapp is being compard with overlooking Clough in the 80s.

The only similarity between the two is they were dodgy bastards.

Clough built two Championship winning teams from nothing.

He also won 2 European Cups with probably the smallest club side ever to take that trophy.

Redknapp has won errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr... one FA Cup.

And bankrupted two clubs with excessive spending.

They couldn't be more dissimilar imo.
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« Reply #239 on: April 30, 2012, 08:09:10 PM »

I tend to agree

If the job was about conducting impromptu press conferences out of a car window to an eager pack of press scribes, and leaking titbits to help achieve your end goal, Harry would be a shoe-in

I would think the situation at Spurs will now stabilise and they'll crack on next year after fading away very badly March onwards this season


Not if Bale and Modric go to greener pastures in the close season.
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