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Marky147
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Re: Arsenal FC a sad sad sad story
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I'd be happy to take even money about a 1/4 shot
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Quote from: Marky147 on September 02, 2017, 11:53:52 PM
I'd be happy to take even money about a 1/4 shot
It's called blind devotion and thanks for killing my action pal.
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Re: Arsenal FC a sad sad sad story
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Quote from: Karabiner on September 02, 2017, 11:55:53 PM
Quote from: Marky147 on September 02, 2017, 11:53:52 PM
I'd be happy to take even money about a 1/4 shot
It's called blind devotion and thanks for killing my action pal.
Yeah, my bad. Apologies... I'm sure you'd have got Dung in for the lot, without him even thinking to look
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Re: Arsenal FC a sad sad sad story
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Quote from: Marky147 on September 03, 2017, 12:00:14 AM
Quote from: Karabiner on September 02, 2017, 11:55:53 PM
Quote from: Marky147 on September 02, 2017, 11:53:52 PM
I'd be happy to take even money about a 1/4 shot
It's called blind devotion and thanks for killing my action pal.
Yeah, my bad. Apologies... I'm sure you'd have got Dung in for the lot, without him even thinking to look
TBH, he thinks we are all idiots, yet good old Nero continues to fiddle while Rome burns.
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Re: Arsenal FC a sad sad sad story
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Quote from: Karabiner on September 01, 2017, 08:26:49 PM
In turning down chelski's offer of £220k p/w. in favour of liverpoo's £120k p/w. it is fair to say that the Ox has subsidized his transfer to the tune of ~£20M+.
How much is the market price of those Jurgen Klopp cuddles?
Nice explanation about the Ox in the link below. The article also covers Sanchez and I'm unsurprisingly in agreement with hhy albeit with differences about the timeline.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/was-this-the-week-arsenal-lost-theplot-zl80j0j6s
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Quote from: Karabiner on September 02, 2017, 11:49:12 PM
Quote from: DungBeetle on September 02, 2017, 11:14:04 PM
Good to see all is still well in Karabiner's Arsenal garden. I've seen blind devotion before but this is a new level!
All is not well in my Arsenal garden but it's just nowhere near as bad as the propaganda spouted by sky/redtops and their blind devotees are making out.
Happy to take even money Arsenal finish in the top six.
Come off it Ralph - sure the redtops/Sky etc go over board but it is literally everyone. You sometimes link to Tim Stilman on the Arseblog (IIRC he is your favourite Arsenal writer) and even he is at it. No doubt you will have seen this blog and i think it is v v good.
https://arseblog.com/2017/08/arsene-doesnt-know/
…"a
great
manager anticipates problems- or else gives the opposition so many issues that they don’t have the chance to expose those of his own team. A
good manager
solves problems, an
average manage
r is just about able to paper over cracks via trial and error and
a bad manager
creates problems for his own players. Arsene, for my money, has transitioned into the final category over the last few months. The team is poorly coached and the administrative issues rife within the club show that it is poorly managed too. Wenger has turned down two opportunities to leave on a high and now Arsenal are locked in a loveless marriage driven by nothing more than a mutual fear of loneliness.
Of course AW has been a legend but do YOU really think AW is still up there with the other top coaches/managers?
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hhyftrftdr
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Re: Arsenal FC a sad sad sad story
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Quote from: Archer on September 03, 2017, 10:08:46 AM
Quote from: Karabiner on September 01, 2017, 08:26:49 PM
In turning down chelski's offer of £220k p/w. in favour of liverpoo's £120k p/w. it is fair to say that the Ox has subsidized his transfer to the tune of ~£20M+.
How much is the market price of those Jurgen Klopp cuddles?
Nice explanation about the Ox in the link below. The article also covers Sanchez and I'm unsurprisingly in agreement with hhy albeit with differences about the timeline.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/was-this-the-week-arsenal-lost-theplot-zl80j0j6s
Click to see full-size image.
Link an article that has a pay wall? Yeah cheers Archer, our owners might be filthy rich but some of us fans are just filthy
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Re: Arsenal FC a sad sad sad story
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I suspect that our changing room has a touch of Wengerism.
Much like racism and sexism, etc, it is a taboo subject.
All the players have a view but because in the Emirates corridors of power, no one ever says a word against AW, all the players are scared to speak out.
The only way to do so, and not be accused of bad mouthing the bloke that has done so much for us(in the distant past), is to get out while you career still has some saveability to it.
Good luck to you Ox, I for one will miss you.
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Karabiner
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Re: Arsenal FC a sad sad sad story
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Quote from: Archer on September 03, 2017, 10:19:51 AM
Quote from: Karabiner on September 02, 2017, 11:49:12 PM
Quote from: DungBeetle on September 02, 2017, 11:14:04 PM
Good to see all is still well in Karabiner's Arsenal garden. I've seen blind devotion before but this is a new level!
All is not well in my Arsenal garden but it's just nowhere near as bad as the propaganda spouted by sky/redtops and their blind devotees are making out.
Happy to take even money Arsenal finish in the top six.
Come off it Ralph - sure the redtops/Sky etc go over board but it is literally everyone. You sometimes link to Tim Stilman on the Arseblog (IIRC he is your favourite Arsenal writer) and even he is at it. No doubt you will have seen this blog and i think it is v v good.
https://arseblog.com/2017/08/arsene-doesnt-know/
…"a
great
manager anticipates problems- or else gives the opposition so many issues that they don’t have the chance to expose those of his own team. A
good manager
solves problems, an
average manage
r is just about able to paper over cracks via trial and error and
a bad manager
creates problems for his own players. Arsene, for my money, has transitioned into the final category over the last few months. The team is poorly coached and the administrative issues rife within the club show that it is poorly managed too. Wenger has turned down two opportunities to leave on a high and now Arsenal are locked in a loveless marriage driven by nothing more than a mutual fear of loneliness.
Of course AW has been a legend but do YOU really think AW is still up there with the other top coaches/managers?
I agree with Arseblog and Tim Stillman(to a certain extent) that it is almost definitely time for a change and the ideal scenario would have been for him to go out on a high after winning the cup in such tremendous style, but I also have way too much respect for Arsene Wenger as a man and for what he has done for our club to join the pack trying to hound him out.
As I have said before much of our current disarray is down to Kroenke, the board, and AW having to do three jobs at once.
The club has outgrown the now antiquated management structure.
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Hang on a second.....
Has Ralph just admitted that Wenger has outstayed his welcome?!
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Archer
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Re: Arsenal FC a sad sad sad story
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Quote from: hhyftrftdr on September 03, 2017, 10:20:05 AM
Quote from: Archer on September 03, 2017, 10:08:46 AM
Quote from: Karabiner on September 01, 2017, 08:26:49 PM
In turning down chelski's offer of £220k p/w. in favour of liverpoo's £120k p/w. it is fair to say that the Ox has subsidized his transfer to the tune of ~£20M+.
How much is the market price of those Jurgen Klopp cuddles?
Nice explanation about the Ox in the link below. The article also covers Sanchez and I'm unsurprisingly in agreement with hhy albeit with differences about the timeline.
https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/sport/was-this-the-week-arsenal-lost-theplot-zl80j0j6s
Link an article that has a pay wall? Yeah cheers Archer, our owners might be filthy rich but some of us fans are just filthy
Shit - I forgot about the paywall. Call it a tikay moment...
Here is a bit more:
Click to see full-size image.
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Re: Arsenal FC a sad sad sad story
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September 03, 2017, 09:25:41 PM »
Quote from: Karabiner on September 03, 2017, 11:09:06 AM
Quote from: Archer on September 03, 2017, 10:19:51 AM
Quote from: Karabiner on September 02, 2017, 11:49:12 PM
Quote from: DungBeetle on September 02, 2017, 11:14:04 PM
Good to see all is still well in Karabiner's Arsenal garden. I've seen blind devotion before but this is a new level!
All is not well in my Arsenal garden but it's just nowhere near as bad as the propaganda spouted by sky/redtops and their blind devotees are making out.
Happy to take even money Arsenal finish in the top six.
Come off it Ralph - sure the redtops/Sky etc go over board but it is literally everyone. You sometimes link to Tim Stilman on the Arseblog (IIRC he is your favourite Arsenal writer) and even he is at it. No doubt you will have seen this blog and i think it is v v good.
https://arseblog.com/2017/08/arsene-doesnt-know/
…"a
great
manager anticipates problems- or else gives the opposition so many issues that they don’t have the chance to expose those of his own team. A
good manager
solves problems, an
average manage
r is just about able to paper over cracks via trial and error and
a bad manager
creates problems for his own players. Arsene, for my money, has transitioned into the final category over the last few months. The team is poorly coached and the administrative issues rife within the club show that it is poorly managed too. Wenger has turned down two opportunities to leave on a high and now Arsenal are locked in a loveless marriage driven by nothing more than a mutual fear of loneliness.
Of course AW has been a legend but do YOU really think AW is still up there with the other top coaches/managers?
I agree with Arseblog and Tim Stillman(to a certain extent) that
it is almost definitely time for a change and the ideal scenario would have been for him to go out on a high after winning the cup in such tremendous style
, but I also have way too much respect for Arsene Wenger as a man and for what he has done for our club to join the pack trying to hound him out.
As I have said before much of our current disarray is down to Kroenke, the board, and AW having to do three jobs at once.
The club has outgrown the now antiquated management structure.
Some people just cant admit they are wrong even they they are admitting they are wrong.
Its ok, we are a happy bunch this side of the fence. You feel cleansed and uplifted, not believing in fairy tales anymore.
Welcome aboard Ralph
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Karabiner
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Re: Arsenal FC a sad sad sad story
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Quote from: BigAdz on September 03, 2017, 09:25:41 PM
Quote from: Karabiner on September 03, 2017, 11:09:06 AM
Quote from: Archer on September 03, 2017, 10:19:51 AM
Quote from: Karabiner on September 02, 2017, 11:49:12 PM
Quote from: DungBeetle on September 02, 2017, 11:14:04 PM
Good to see all is still well in Karabiner's Arsenal garden. I've seen blind devotion before but this is a new level!
All is not well in my Arsenal garden but it's just nowhere near as bad as the propaganda spouted by sky/redtops and their blind devotees are making out.
Happy to take even money Arsenal finish in the top six.
Come off it Ralph - sure the redtops/Sky etc go over board but it is literally everyone. You sometimes link to Tim Stilman on the Arseblog (IIRC he is your favourite Arsenal writer) and even he is at it. No doubt you will have seen this blog and i think it is v v good.
https://arseblog.com/2017/08/arsene-doesnt-know/
…"a
great
manager anticipates problems- or else gives the opposition so many issues that they don’t have the chance to expose those of his own team. A
good manager
solves problems, an
average manage
r is just about able to paper over cracks via trial and error and
a bad manager
creates problems for his own players. Arsene, for my money, has transitioned into the final category over the last few months. The team is poorly coached and the administrative issues rife within the club show that it is poorly managed too. Wenger has turned down two opportunities to leave on a high and now Arsenal are locked in a loveless marriage driven by nothing more than a mutual fear of loneliness.
Of course AW has been a legend but do YOU really think AW is still up there with the other top coaches/managers?
I agree with Arseblog and Tim Stillman(to a certain extent) that
it is almost definitely time for a change and the ideal scenario would have been for him to go out on a high after winning the cup in such tremendous style
, but I also have way too much respect for Arsene Wenger as a man and for what he has done for our club to join the pack trying to hound him out.
As I have said before much of our current disarray is down to Kroenke, the board, and AW having to do three jobs at once.
The club has outgrown the now antiquated management structure.
Some people just cant admit they are wrong even they they are admitting they are wrong.
Its ok, we are a happy bunch this side of the fence. You feel cleansed and uplifted, not believing in fairy tales anymore.
Welcome aboard Ralph
You are such a simpleton sometimes Angst - my stance has not changed in the slightest.
I've always said that I have complete faith in Arsene Wenger's loyalty and integrity - and that he has earned the right to keep the job if he thinks he's up to it.
I may not agree with or even understand some of his decisions but I am still of the same opinion that Arsene Knows Best.
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Re: Arsenal FC a sad sad sad story
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Quote from: Karabiner on September 03, 2017, 10:20:01 PM
Quote from: BigAdz on September 03, 2017, 09:25:41 PM
Quote from: Karabiner on September 03, 2017, 11:09:06 AM
Quote from: Archer on September 03, 2017, 10:19:51 AM
Quote from: Karabiner on September 02, 2017, 11:49:12 PM
Quote from: DungBeetle on September 02, 2017, 11:14:04 PM
Good to see all is still well in Karabiner's Arsenal garden. I've seen blind devotion before but this is a new level!
All is not well in my Arsenal garden but it's just nowhere near as bad as the propaganda spouted by sky/redtops and their blind devotees are making out.
Happy to take even money Arsenal finish in the top six.
Come off it Ralph - sure the redtops/Sky etc go over board but it is literally everyone. You sometimes link to Tim Stilman on the Arseblog (IIRC he is your favourite Arsenal writer) and even he is at it. No doubt you will have seen this blog and i think it is v v good.
https://arseblog.com/2017/08/arsene-doesnt-know/
…"a
great
manager anticipates problems- or else gives the opposition so many issues that they don’t have the chance to expose those of his own team. A
good manager
solves problems, an
average manage
r is just about able to paper over cracks via trial and error and
a bad manager
creates problems for his own players. Arsene, for my money, has transitioned into the final category over the last few months. The team is poorly coached and the administrative issues rife within the club show that it is poorly managed too. Wenger has turned down two opportunities to leave on a high and now Arsenal are locked in a loveless marriage driven by nothing more than a mutual fear of loneliness.
Of course AW has been a legend but do YOU really think AW is still up there with the other top coaches/managers?
I agree with Arseblog and Tim Stillman(to a certain extent) that
it is almost definitely time for a change and the ideal scenario would have been for him to go out on a high after winning the cup in such tremendous style
, but I also have way too much respect for Arsene Wenger as a man and for what he has done for our club to join the pack trying to hound him out.
As I have said before much of our current disarray is down to Kroenke, the board, and AW having to do three jobs at once.
The club has outgrown the now antiquated management structure.
Some people just cant admit they are wrong even they they are admitting they are wrong.
Its ok, we are a happy bunch this side of the fence. You feel cleansed and uplifted, not believing in fairy tales anymore.
Welcome aboard Ralph
You are such a simpleton sometimes Angst - my stance has not changed in the slightest.
I've always said that I have complete faith in Arsene Wenger's loyalty and integrity - and that he has earned the right to keep the job if he thinks he's up to it.
I may not agree with or even understand some of his decisions but I am still of the same opinion that Arsene Knows Best.
To be fair if you continue to chant the mantra "Arsene knows best" you are likely the simpleton?
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September 04, 2017, 12:55:59 AM »
Quote from: DungBeetle on September 04, 2017, 12:43:40 AM
Quote from: Karabiner on September 03, 2017, 10:20:01 PM
Quote from: BigAdz on September 03, 2017, 09:25:41 PM
Quote from: Karabiner on September 03, 2017, 11:09:06 AM
Quote from: Archer on September 03, 2017, 10:19:51 AM
Quote from: Karabiner on September 02, 2017, 11:49:12 PM
Quote from: DungBeetle on September 02, 2017, 11:14:04 PM
Good to see all is still well in Karabiner's Arsenal garden. I've seen blind devotion before but this is a new level!
All is not well in my Arsenal garden but it's just nowhere near as bad as the propaganda spouted by sky/redtops and their blind devotees are making out.
Happy to take even money Arsenal finish in the top six.
Come off it Ralph - sure the redtops/Sky etc go over board but it is literally everyone. You sometimes link to Tim Stilman on the Arseblog (IIRC he is your favourite Arsenal writer) and even he is at it. No doubt you will have seen this blog and i think it is v v good.
https://arseblog.com/2017/08/arsene-doesnt-know/
…"a
great
manager anticipates problems- or else gives the opposition so many issues that they don’t have the chance to expose those of his own team. A
good manager
solves problems, an
average manage
r is just about able to paper over cracks via trial and error and
a bad manager
creates problems for his own players. Arsene, for my money, has transitioned into the final category over the last few months. The team is poorly coached and the administrative issues rife within the club show that it is poorly managed too. Wenger has turned down two opportunities to leave on a high and now Arsenal are locked in a loveless marriage driven by nothing more than a mutual fear of loneliness.
Of course AW has been a legend but do YOU really think AW is still up there with the other top coaches/managers?
I agree with Arseblog and Tim Stillman(to a certain extent) that
it is almost definitely time for a change and the ideal scenario would have been for him to go out on a high after winning the cup in such tremendous style
, but I also have way too much respect for Arsene Wenger as a man and for what he has done for our club to join the pack trying to hound him out.
As I have said before much of our current disarray is down to Kroenke, the board, and AW having to do three jobs at once.
The club has outgrown the now antiquated management structure.
Some people just cant admit they are wrong even they they are admitting they are wrong.
Its ok, we are a happy bunch this side of the fence. You feel cleansed and uplifted, not believing in fairy tales anymore.
Welcome aboard Ralph
You are such a simpleton sometimes Angst - my stance has not changed in the slightest.
I've always said that I have complete faith in Arsene Wenger's loyalty and integrity - and that he has earned the right to keep the job if he thinks he's up to it.
I may not agree with or even understand some of his decisions but I am still of the same opinion that Arsene Knows Best.
To be fair if you continue to chant the mantra "Arsene knows best" you are likely the simpleton?
Absolutely.
How can anyone say 'it is almost definitely time for a change' and then say I'm the simpleton for suggesting you now agree he has to go.
You have dug yourself such an entrenched position, based now, purely on stubbornness, and this ridiculous fear that I might have been right, you look a total fool now Ralph. Even the forum good guys are telling you out loud.
As Tikay says though, it's great for ratings, so please, carry on
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