Issues Arising from Staking

[pleno1]

The op is Probably in top 10 ops of 2012 imo

[smashedagain]

Lil'dave is a winnar ofc and I can't wait for him to start breeding and bringing more, sensible, insightful, funny and clever people into the world.

Doobs sir, that is a fantastic post. Moarrrr pls

The rest of the stuff about auctions is interesting, I think Alex is a decent player but I wonder what his true expected ROI would be at £1k events over a decent sample.. Tough to make solid guesses tho.

I genuinely feel that I am good value at 1.2 but its so hard to prove it without significant online volume as keys mentioned in my first staking ideas thread.  I absolutely dont want to Grimm or have someone feel grimmed but im putting literally every hour sent into playing, talking to people and learning how to play this most amazing of games.

Apologies if I have offended anyone with my thread.

I just don't get it, you cant explain why you're likely a ~50% ROI player but you are? or at least you yourself honestly believe you are. Just because YOU believe you are a massive winner due to your insane hedges doesn't mean you are or that you should charge markup. Think alot of people that get backed should be looking at whether they have any markup not what is the right amount and look to why they are selling in the first place. Auctions are just an awful idea which go against alot of the reasons why people should/do get staked imo.

Not quite sure what Bobbys getting at, just dont like Goulder?

Yeah you tell em titty. I thought I was a half decent player cashin 50% of the time over an 18 month period. But you knew all along. So wish I listened and held onto some of the cash  

[titaniumbean]

Lil'dave is a winnar ofc and I can't wait for him to start breeding and bringing more, sensible, insightful, funny and clever people into the world.

Doobs sir, that is a fantastic post. Moarrrr pls

The rest of the stuff about auctions is interesting, I think Alex is a decent player but I wonder what his true expected ROI would be at £1k events over a decent sample.. Tough to make solid guesses tho.

I genuinely feel that I am good value at 1.2 but its so hard to prove it without significant online volume as keys mentioned in my first staking ideas thread.  I absolutely dont want to Grimm or have someone feel grimmed but im putting literally every hour sent into playing, talking to people and learning how to play this most amazing of games.

Apologies if I have offended anyone with my thread.

I just don't get it, you cant explain why you're likely a ~50% ROI player but you are? or at least you yourself honestly believe you are. Just because YOU believe you are a massive winner due to your insane hedges doesn't mean you are or that you should charge markup. Think alot of people that get backed should be looking at whether they have any markup not what is the right amount and look to why they are selling in the first place. Auctions are just an awful idea which go against alot of the reasons why people should/do get staked imo.

Not quite sure what Bobbys getting at, just dont like Goulder?

Yeah you tell em titty. I thought I was a half decent player cashin 50% of the time over an 18 month period. But you knew all along. So wish I listened and held onto some of the cash  

at least you blew through all that (where was it from Marrakesch?) on clean living and health products :p

[smashedagain]

Lil'dave is a winnar ofc and I can't wait for him to start breeding and bringing more, sensible, insightful, funny and clever people into the world.

Doobs sir, that is a fantastic post. Moarrrr pls

The rest of the stuff about auctions is interesting, I think Alex is a decent player but I wonder what his true expected ROI would be at £1k events over a decent sample.. Tough to make solid guesses tho.

I genuinely feel that I am good value at 1.2 but its so hard to prove it without significant online volume as keys mentioned in my first staking ideas thread.  I absolutely dont want to Grimm or have someone feel grimmed but im putting literally every hour sent into playing, talking to people and learning how to play this most amazing of games.

Apologies if I have offended anyone with my thread.

I just don't get it, you cant explain why you're likely a ~50% ROI player but you are? or at least you yourself honestly believe you are. Just because YOU believe you are a massive winner due to your insane hedges doesn't mean you are or that you should charge markup. Think alot of people that get backed should be looking at whether they have any markup not what is the right amount and look to why they are selling in the first place. Auctions are just an awful idea which go against alot of the reasons why people should/do get staked imo.

Not quite sure what Bobbys getting at, just dont like Goulder?

Yeah you tell em titty. I thought I was a half decent player cashin 50% of the time over an 18 month period. But you knew all along. So wish I listened and held onto some of the cash  

at least you blew through all that (where was it from Marrakesch?) on clean living and health products :p

Lol biggest spend was wife's 50% then 2nd was investing in a business that went tits up. Then 3rd was a stupid Porsche and some fancy number plates.

Hang fire a minute I got some receipts upstairs

[smashedagain]

It's a bit anal but I kept a load of the  receipts and money bags just incase I got a knock on the door from tax man or worse still the 5 O.... It's bought back some memories the oldest I can see is oct 09 and recent nov 10. Talk about memories and its making me sick having just added up the lot. Would never regret one minute of it and the obv highlight ( even before Marrakesh ) was getting married with my family there in Vegas. I was in Palms Place before all the young undesirables found out about em.

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Unbelievable that I could have had enough cash squirrelled under my mattress to buy an average detached house in Scunny.

To get the thread back on track I should sell at .75 for the wsop main

[titaniumbean]

you make me laff so much. wtf.

[jakally]

To Neil,

I am in no way doubting his ability or reliability either, just the way staking threads are going.

someone again mentioned I have a problem with him, it's just not true, iirc the only thing we have ever disagreed about are staking issues.

I can like the guy but disagree with his ideas on staking just the same as he could think I am a cock but agree with me on other subjects.

 

I agree with you that there are lots of issues with staking threads - it tilts me badly seeing half-arsed proposals, or people asking for significant mark ups with little, or no, rationale behind it.
I just think Alex's thread is well above average, and therefore not necessarily the best target for some of the concerns.

[RED-DOG]

I still can't get past the "If you don't like it, don't buy it" argument.

It's the way things have worked for thousands of years.

[titaniumbean]

I still can't get past the "If you don't like it, don't buy it" argument.

It's the way things have worked for thousands of years.

it doesn't work when people come into a thread and say 'xyz bad value' or w/e and then people say GET OUT YOU DON'T HAVE TO BUY IF YOU DON'T WANT TO.



It's a really annoying argument because I don't see why I should watch someone put up a shitty value thread and then take offense when they are told so.

[smashedagain]

I think because Alex is a major player across the forum in terms of contribution so people feel they can say what they want. Hopefully he can take it. My personal gripe is the guys you see posting a rapid 300 then bing let's get a stake thread up. These are often poorly laid out with little in the way of results or experience. Rather see Alex get 1.5 than these typed get 1.2

[The Camel]

I must say I hated the reserve price thing.

Didn't want to start another whinging thread though!

[cambridgealex]

It's good that its been brought up of course. I agree with you now that I think about it. Perhaps someone smarter than me like Keys could fight the corner of the reserve price?

[cambridgealex]

@bobby1 do you have any response to my reply?

[bobby1]

@bobby1 do you have any response to my reply?

hi Alex,

I am busy at the mo but will reply later.

[bobAlike]

I must say I hated the reserve price thing.

Didn't want to start another whinging thread though!

Lol, same here and after the buy back clause, in another staking request, didn't want to raise a storm.