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« Reply #45 on: May 22, 2013, 03:37:28 PM »

What weight do you give to a situation where a jockey only has one runner on a card?

Hutchinson and Scudamore have one each at decent prices at Huntingdon today. Neither for their normal trainer. Appreciate they're not being sent to Ayr or something equally far away, but interested to hear your views on that general situation.

right tal rather than me guessing here are some stats on the above

best i can do is days when he has one ride, this may mean on days where he's had two they've been at different meetings but won't be many cases of this.  these are also going to be last 5 years for both, so as to avoid times when they weren't established/apprentices:

scudamore: 39/308, -122 to SP
hutchinson: 27/286, -82 to SP

I see no mitigating circs for Mr Scudamore, but as Chairman of the Wayneo fan club, during this time he has been second string for Alan King for the majority of the time, so his figures will be schewed by having to travel all over the place for singles rides that probably have next to no chance.
If he gets the jig at Kings as stable jock, I expect these figures would look a lot different in the next 5 years.

Would you agree Horsey?

no idea tbh

i am a massive fan of hutchinson as a jockey

the stats are just for when the jockey has one ride at a meeting i would doubt there would be any jockeys who showed a profit under that criteria over a decent sample size
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« Reply #46 on: May 22, 2013, 03:43:28 PM »

I daren't imagine how enormous your database is, horsey! Amazing stats.
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« Reply #47 on: May 22, 2013, 03:44:13 PM »

I daren't imagine how enormous your database is, horsey! Amazing stats.

not mine mate courtesy of proform that one
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« Reply #48 on: May 22, 2013, 03:49:22 PM »

I daren't imagine how enormous your database is, horsey! Amazing stats.

not mine mate courtesy of proform that one

Thought you were like Bearders for a moment, then; an encyclopaedic resource of all horse racing since hooves first clip-clopped at your fingertips.

I was going to ask you what ROI you get from jockeys wearing mainly orange in low numbers at York on odd-numbered days. Don't think I'll bother now.
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« Reply #49 on: May 22, 2013, 03:49:56 PM »

Bramshill Lass should have won, not like Crowley to be caught sleeping.
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« Reply #50 on: May 22, 2013, 04:48:44 PM »

first two well backed and bramshill could/should have won

no chance for Caledonia


in shock news betting eddie looks in big trouble. If you have time this report is well worth a read.

http://www.britishhorseracing.presscentre.com/Press-Releases/Result-of-a-Disciplinary-Panel-hearing-Neil-Clement-Eddie-Ahern-Martin-Raymond-and-Paul-Hill-3d8.aspx
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« Reply #51 on: May 22, 2013, 05:01:20 PM »

a couple in the 5.00 lingfield

no idea why kinglami is 5/2 here has a chance but that is to short.

2pts win 9/2 poetic lord c + d ideal no chance last time over to far a trip on the turf

1pt win 14/1  avertis profilic winner to short last time missed break and never got to the front which it needs to

both bog

 
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« Reply #52 on: May 22, 2013, 05:35:47 PM »

first two well backed and bramshill could/should have won

no chance for Caledonia


in shock news betting eddie looks in big trouble. If you have time this report is well worth a read.

http://www.britishhorseracing.presscentre.com/Press-Releases/Result-of-a-Disciplinary-Panel-hearing-Neil-Clement-Eddie-Ahern-Martin-Raymond-and-Paul-Hill-3d8.aspx

Im halfway through it and it staggers me that people can be so inept at being a little deceptive.

Thanks for the link Wink
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« Reply #53 on: May 22, 2013, 06:03:33 PM »

I think that this goes on a lot more than people think.

Only the idiots get caught but a professional outfit can get away with laying horses to lose
quite easily.

The idea that you can make money by laying a horse/athlete/sportsman to lose does mean
 the integrety of a lot of sports is undermind by those willing to make serious money cheating.

It's far easier to make money laying something to lose than backing something to win.

Betfair is here to stay so I don't see the situation improving over the years.
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« Reply #54 on: May 22, 2013, 06:40:15 PM »

considering he has had the nickname betfair eddie for at least ten years it was hardly a big shock Smiley

as ever did not take long for the spoof video to come out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jrCDjxKRqw
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« Reply #55 on: May 22, 2013, 06:48:36 PM »

considering he has had the nickname betfair eddie for at least ten years it was hardly a big shock Smiley

as ever did not take long for the spoof video to come out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jrCDjxKRqw

Brilliant .....
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« Reply #56 on: May 22, 2013, 06:50:57 PM »

considering he has had the nickname betfair eddie for at least ten years it was hardly a big shock Smiley

as ever did not take long for the spoof video to come out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jrCDjxKRqw

Fell for it again.

I am never ever watching another of those, they're just not funny.
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« Reply #57 on: May 22, 2013, 06:51:57 PM »

considering he has had the nickname betfair eddie for at least ten years it was hardly a big shock Smiley

as ever did not take long for the spoof video to come out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jrCDjxKRqw

Fell for it again.

I am never ever watching another of those, they're just not funny.

Agree in the main but the Cheltenham Festival 2013 one is
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« Reply #58 on: May 22, 2013, 06:54:15 PM »

considering he has had the nickname betfair eddie for at least ten years it was hardly a big shock Smiley

as ever did not take long for the spoof video to come out

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0jrCDjxKRqw

Fell for it again.

I am never ever watching another of those, they're just not funny.

Agree in the main but the Cheltenham Festival 2013 one is

Ok, you've suckered me in, but unless I laugh at least 3 times, that avatar of yours will be you with me holding the gun.

You've been warned.

Can't find it. Link?
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« Reply #59 on: May 22, 2013, 06:54:42 PM »

With Camel here, woeful effort this one.
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