DTD Online Club Cash Games

[DTD-ACES]

I've seen some very poor imitations of 'live huds' rumoured and talked about...

I've never heard anyone discussing it being illegal or immoral or such.

If I were to turn up and use my phone to help me keep track of the game I'm in, what happened while I was there, remember any little things I thought I picked up on players - I would then get kicked out and banned for life???

Hi

Please check the rules of the live club for guidance with club questions or just speak to me in person.

Cheers Simon

[TightEnd]

http://www.lildaveslife.com/2013/08/wheres-the-fucking-justice.html

Lil Dave weighs into the debate....

[Doobs]

I've seen some very poor imitations of 'live huds' rumoured and talked about...

I've never heard anyone discussing it being illegal or immoral or such.

If I were to turn up and use my phone to help me keep track of the game I'm in, what happened while I was there, remember any little things I thought I picked up on players - I would then get kicked out and banned for life???

You know how nobody complains about Guy Laliberte's multi accounting....

[pleno1]

I repeat;

There is no need to get into specifics 'what if this happens, what about this scenario, how about this and that etc etc', we could do the same with the live club about dress code and be here all day debating what sports trainers 'really are' and when the 'exact date' of Summer comes to allow shorts. These rules for the Online Club Cash Games are absolutely crystal clear to me and it is my job to manage different circumstances as they arise, exactly like I have to do in live club, further more, players are not going to accidentally sit at these tables and accidentally break the rules because;


This is from the web site

We would not allow a player sit down at a cash game table in our live club and pull out a computer program that records everyone's hole cards and actions, produces thousands of stats to assist them in making decisions on every street and then even does the betting for them. Our doormen would be insta-kicking out any player who had the cheek to overlay this computer program over the whole table and try and use it to win money against our Club Members! Anyone detected using any type or form of Poker Tracking software on these tables will be have their online account closed and be barred for life from Dusk Till Dawn's live Club - just like at the Club!

*To be clear this rule only applies to these specific Dusk Till Dawn Online Club Cash Games Tables

Can I also say to players that currently use tracking software and therefore having questions about it's use - YOU are not the target customers for these club cash game tables, we prefer you to not play on these tables, there are plenty of choices out there. We only want a couple of tables running each night for our recreational club players- that's all this is. I can promise you that ANYONE found using any from of tracking software on these tables will be banned for life from Dusk Till Dawn's Live Club and Online, there is no excuse not to know these rules, just sign up and you will see how clear it is that you have accepted these rules. It is likely we will also name you to our members so that the recreational players know that we are serious about enforcement of the rules.

Please make your decisions whether to play on these tables based on this information. End of.

Cheers Simon

But you haven't answered the questions itt. If we are using tracking software on another site simultaneously to playing on Dtd or if we use the tracking software to check our results (a lot of people do this and Alex regularly posts graphs made from phone tracking software for his resuts) will this be fine?

[TightEnd]

I think the questions were (indirectly) answered in this sentence

"Can I also say to players that currently use tracking software and therefore having questions about it's use - YOU are not the target customers for these club cash game tables, we prefer you to not play on these tables, there are plenty of choices out there."

[Woodsey]

I think the questions were (indirectly) answered in this sentence

"Can I also say to players that currently use tracking software and therefore having questions about it's use - YOU are not the target customers for these club cash game tables, we prefer you to not play on these tables, there are plenty of choices out there."

It's ok saying that Richard, but in all honesty I can see some people drooling at the mouth at the prospect of a table full the people you are targeting, that is just how poker players are, and they will do whatever they can to play with weaker players for their own personal ends.

[tikay]

I think the questions were (indirectly) answered in this sentence

"Can I also say to players that currently use tracking software and therefore having questions about it's use - YOU are not the target customers for these club cash game tables, we prefer you to not play on these tables, there are plenty of choices out there."

It's ok saying that Richard, but in all honesty I can see some people drooling at the mouth at the prospect of a table full the people you are targeting, that is just how poker players are, and they will do whatever they can to play with weaker players for their own personal ends.

True, but DTD have been unequivocal about this - they'll face a LIFE BAN from the Club if it comes out on top. Surely nobody would be THAT daft? If they do, & they get caught, they'll deserve it.

[Woodsey]

I think the questions were (indirectly) answered in this sentence

"Can I also say to players that currently use tracking software and therefore having questions about it's use - YOU are not the target customers for these club cash game tables, we prefer you to not play on these tables, there are plenty of choices out there."

It's ok saying that Richard, but in all honesty I can see some people drooling at the mouth at the prospect of a table full the people you are targeting, that is just how poker players are, and they will do whatever they can to play with weaker players for their own personal ends.

True, but DTD have been unequivocal about this - they'll face a LIFE BAN from the Club if it comes out on top. Surely nobody would be THAT daft? If they do, & they get caught, they'll deserve it.

The lack of an answer about how will they know tells me they have no possible way of knowing Tikay, if they have they should just come out and say it.

[TightEnd]

I am pretty sure that DTD wouldn't know, but its still a risk you are taking

After Rob's blog article, which got a lot of coverage attention, I think DTD are probably asking a group of poker players (sharks, for want of a better word) to see the bigger picture here and participate accordingly, or not participate at all

A big ask, possibly, but the intent is pretty clear.

[tikay]

I think the questions were (indirectly) answered in this sentence

"Can I also say to players that currently use tracking software and therefore having questions about it's use - YOU are not the target customers for these club cash game tables, we prefer you to not play on these tables, there are plenty of choices out there."

It's ok saying that Richard, but in all honesty I can see some people drooling at the mouth at the prospect of a table full the people you are targeting, that is just how poker players are, and they will do whatever they can to play with weaker players for their own personal ends.

True, but DTD have been unequivocal about this - they'll face a LIFE BAN from the Club if it comes out on top. Surely nobody would be THAT daft? If they do, & they get caught, they'll deserve it.

The lack of an answer about how will they know tells me they have no possible way of knowing Tikay, if they have they should just come out and say it.

I have no idea how they would, or would not, know. But I sure as hell would not risk a Life Ban from DTD for the sake of such a (relatively) short-term gain.

You can see where this will go though. Someone will try it on, it will come out on top, & they'll get banned, named & shamed, as sure as God made little apples. These things always come out on top eventually. Then the martyr campaign will begin. 

[SirPerceval]

regarding rule 2 on the sign up page - does this mean that if I get on a table with Kinboshi online I never have to speak to him live again?

where do I sign up? 

[SirPerceval]

Hats off to Simon and Rob for trying this. If only everyone in the poker community was as innovation and ethical as this.

A bit like comparing the DTD club with most other poker rooms in the country - head and shoulders above the rest. Well Played guys.

[kinboshi]

regarding rule 2 on the sign up page - does this mean that if I get on a table with Kinboshi online I never have to speak to him live again?

where do I sign up? 

Ditto

[jgcblack]

I've seen some very poor imitations of 'live huds' rumoured and talked about...

I've never heard anyone discussing it being illegal or immoral or such.

If I were to turn up and use my phone to help me keep track of the game I'm in, what happened while I was there, remember any little things I thought I picked up on players - I would then get kicked out and banned for life???

You know how nobody complains about Guy Laliberte's multi accounting....

If only I was that big of a recreational player...

[pleno1]

I think the questions were (indirectly) answered in this sentence

"Can I also say to players that currently use tracking software and therefore having questions about it's use - YOU are not the target customers for these club cash game tables, we prefer you to not play on these tables, there are plenty of choices out there."

It's ok saying that Richard, but in all honesty I can see some people drooling at the mouth at the prospect of a table full the people you are targeting, that is just how poker players are, and they will do whatever they can to play with weaker players for their own personal ends.

True, but DTD have been unequivocal about this - they'll face a LIFE BAN from the Club if it comes out on top. Surely nobody would be THAT daft? If they do, & they get caught, they'll deserve it.

The lack of an answer about how will they know tells me they have no possible way of knowing Tikay, if they have they should just come out and say it.

I have no idea how they would, or would not, know. But I sure as hell would not risk a Life Ban from DTD for the sake of such a (relatively) short-term gain.

You can see where this will go though. Someone will try it on, it will come out on top, & they'll get banned, named & shamed, as sure as God made little apples. These things always come out on top eventually. Then the martyr campaign will begin. 

but what if Alex wants to play these games when he is at home, I assume he is allowed. But wants to play on a french site simultaneously with a HUD but has no intention to use a HUD. I assume it would be the same with lild, honeybadger etc etc