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« on: November 04, 2013, 01:05:34 PM »

PokerStars Hand #106463112027: Tournament #807535165, $200+$15 USD Hold'em No Limit - Level XIV (600/1200)
9-max Seat #6 is the button

Seat 1:UTG+1 (22267 in chips)
Seat 2: MP (50181 in chips)
Seat 3: MP+1 (35190 in chips)
Seat 4: HJ (18960 in chips)
Seat 5: CO (56213 in chips)
Seat 6: Str8$$$Homey (24617 in chips)
Seat 7: Hero (29588 in chips)
Seat 8: BB (28942 in chips)
Seat 9: UTG (65675 in chips)
UTG+1: posts the ante 120
MP: posts the ante 120
MP+1: posts the ante 120
HJ: posts the ante 120
CO: posts the ante 120
Str8$$$Homey: posts the ante 120
Hero: posts the ante 120
BB: posts the ante 120
UTG: posts the ante 120
Hero: posts small blind 600
BB: posts big blind 1200
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to Hero 
UTG: folds
UTG+1: folds
MP: folds
MP+1: folds
HJ: folds
CO: folds
Str8$$$Homey: raises 1200 to 2400
Hero: raises 1200 to 3600
BB: folds
Str8$$$Homey: calls 1200
*** FLOP ***   
Hero: bets 3210
Str8$$$Homey: calls 3210
*** TURN *** 
Hero: checks
Str8$$$Homey: bets 17687 and is all-in
Hero: ?


I intended to go all in preflop but misclicked. I left in villains name due to him being a good reg.

How would you proceed from here?

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« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2013, 01:33:18 PM »

Fold, what worse hands can you expect him to turnover??
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« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2013, 01:36:23 PM »

Fold
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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2013, 01:41:43 PM »

Lol
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« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2013, 01:49:47 PM »

Lololol trolls gna troll. I didn't wanna post about it yesterday, but if he has k4cc maybe he has q4ss!
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Worst playcalling I have ever seen. Bunch of  fucking jokers . Run the bloody ball. 18 rushes all game? You have to be kidding me. Fuck off lol
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« Reply #5 on: November 04, 2013, 01:53:47 PM »

So you think he floats flop with bare backdoor flush draw and then overbet jams the turn with no pair no draw on the biggest brick there is?
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« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2013, 01:55:10 PM »

FWIW I wouldn't like to just shove all in pre in this spot think you can go like 4600 and go from there as it allows you to see if the players behind wake up with a hand. As played fold turn
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« Reply #7 on: November 04, 2013, 01:56:12 PM »

I'm not actually trying to troll. I want to get some feedback on hands like this. Judging by markup that is charged and apparent ease that %'s fly out I assume he is a good player. In my eyes, betting flop and check calling turn is about as bad as it gets. If it is an ok/good play, I'd like to know why.
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« Reply #8 on: November 04, 2013, 02:05:16 PM »

So you think he floats flop with bare backdoor flush draw and then overbet jams the turn with no pair no draw on the biggest brick there is?

I thought it was spades otf sorry. Q4dd then.. I'm not saying I'd call btw.
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« Reply #9 on: November 04, 2013, 02:10:02 PM »

what would you do pleno? do you not think he would just raise and call or just jam the flop with a flush draw?
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« Reply #10 on: November 04, 2013, 02:12:29 PM »

OP took the liberty in posting this hand, I am the hero.

FWIW I think the hand is played poorly given the mis-click. I think he usually jams all flush draws on the flop and all 45 46 56s type hands as we are only 20bb effective. Obviously don't fold if he jams the flop as he shouldn't play a king like that. Unfortunately I am not always on my A game, I wish I was!

I have an idea who OP is, I tried to do a search online and the only thing that came up was him posting on a teen forum worrying about his penis size.

As for posting anonymously and moaning about mark-ups, good job. I have a sharkscope graph that has a nice trend in the upwards direction, I'm trust worthy and I've had my fair share of binks and deep runs. I also work hard and take part in community discussion.

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« Reply #11 on: November 04, 2013, 02:15:45 PM »

Can you show me where I have said you don't deserve the markup?

Like I said, if this hand has been played well/fine, I would just like an explanation as I am obviously a shit player so don't understand..
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« Reply #12 on: November 04, 2013, 02:17:27 PM »

Someone else commented on it and you just dismissed them. So you obviously have a reasoning behind it and I would just like to know what it is.... You don't have to share it if you don't want which is why I posted it as if I was the hero so other good players could give their feedback
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« Reply #13 on: November 04, 2013, 02:18:56 PM »

Like how you've played it (except for misclick obv). Only thing i'd say is that you have to level him correctly. When a good played makes his hand look like a draw or a spew they've actually got it.
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« Reply #14 on: November 04, 2013, 02:21:50 PM »

That is my point The Squid. He's a good player, he's not going to just jam pot on the brickiest ever turn card with no pair no draw. So what is it you think you can beat??

I don't really want to turn this onto a discussion about markup but while we are at it I did just OPR you. Since 2007 you have never had an roi of above 30%, yet you routinely sell at markup. Do you think this offers investors good value? Furthermore, what % roi do you think is necessary to make a living
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