UK General Election 2015

[mulhuzz]

I will be glad when its all over now.

Each day, I tell myself not to read this thread. Each day I can't help myself.

Of everyone that has posted on here more than a couple of times, it is so clear which way everyone bar about one person actually votes, and each seem to pick angles/articles to justify their standpoint, and very few here have even opened themselves up to other views. All totally acceptable, but still quite tilting.

As ever, polls are quite interesting. FWIW, I have no idea which way it will go but I suspect despite all the mocking of UKIP here, and in most areas of scrutiny, they will get a massive turnout, maybe not reflected in seats, but certainly in votes.

I live in one of the strongest/longest Tory seats in England, yet all I hear are ground swells of support for UKIP, not just in my constituency, but as I travel round. It's not popular or sensible to wear the ideology openly, but I suspect far more may vote that way.

As an employed person, with a F&C house, and other sources of income, i doubt the whole thing will effect me much whichever way it goes, but I do hope it doesn't all result in the bloody Scots having the balance of power.



Wouldn't be right to not have a little bet, and the 11/10 offered by Hills for both Farage and Clegg to win their seats looks worth a nibble to me, if the Tory tactical vote in Sheffield happens, as thought.

Im also slightly tempted by UKIP at 9/4 to win more seats than Plaid C.

interesting - which way am I voting? Since I assume the 'bar one' person is Tighty......

[redsimon]

I don't think Adz can say who I'm voting/voted for too

[doubleup]

I will be glad when its all over now.

Each day, I tell myself not to read this thread. Each day I can't help myself.

Of everyone that has posted on here more than a couple of times, it is so clear which way everyone bar about one person actually votes, and each seem to pick angles/articles to justify their standpoint, and very few here have even opened themselves up to other views. All totally acceptable, but still quite tilting.

As ever, polls are quite interesting. FWIW, I have no idea which way it will go but I suspect despite all the mocking of UKIP here, and in most areas of scrutiny, they will get a massive turnout, maybe not reflected in seats, but certainly in votes.

I live in one of the strongest/longest Tory seats in England, yet all I hear are ground swells of support for UKIP, not just in my constituency, but as I travel round. It's not popular or sensible to wear the ideology openly, but I suspect far more may vote that way.

As an employed person, with a F&C house, and other sources of income, i doubt the whole thing will effect me much whichever way it goes, but I do hope it doesn't all result in the bloody Scots having the balance of power.



Wouldn't be right to not have a little bet, and the 11/10 offered by Hills for both Farage and Clegg to win their seats looks worth a nibble to me, if the Tory tactical vote in Sheffield happens, as thought.

Im also slightly tempted by UKIP at 9/4 to win more seats than Plaid C.

yeah you sound like just the kind of person that enjoys a civil political debate

[TightEnd]

I have always tried to put up articles and links from a variety of places, some will favour some parties, some others

i don't happen to post much SNP stuff but i don't really follow much from their people

some are just about the election itself, some are forecasts

i don't really agree Adz, think its been a very good thread with a lot of debate. not a single post has been removed, everyone has been able to have their say and plenty of questions asked

anyway

another forecast, this time polling observatory

http://may2015.com/ideas/separate-academic-forecast-tories-will-win-vote-by-2-3-points-but-miliband-most-likely-pm/

[DungBeetle]

I think under our system, a coalition that can form 320 seats has legitimacy even if it doesn't have the winner involved.  However, Miliband will get accused of lacking legitimacy in the press at every turn if he gets in by finishing distant 2nd, especially if things start poorly.  This won't make things easy for him.

I also think it would harden the vote for the "winner" that ends up in opposition significantly next time around.

A legitimate government is one which can generate enough support in the House and that is all that counts. We will need to get used to that if coalitions and minority governments are here to stay.

In Ireland, Fine Gael formed a coalition government with Labour many times without ever having as many seats as Fianna Fail.

After the Council elections in Portsmouth last year, there were 19 Lib Dem,  12 Conservative, 5 Labour, 4 UKIP and 2 Independent Councillors. Since then, the city has been run by a minority Conservative administration, as the Labour and UKIP groups have guaranteed them support in the Chamber in order to keep the Lib Dems out (local politics - the Lib Dems were in charge for the previous 10 years). No-one, including the Lib Dems, has questioned the legitimacy of the Conservative twelve-member administration and it has got by fairly successfully and without any major trauma.

I agree with you but that won't be how the press spin it.

[ripple11]

Clegg in "Cardiff central" this morning trying to shore up the LibDem votes, against labour.
Reporter  says the Tories are going to be tactically voting LibDem, to ensure the seat stays LibDem.
Obviously makes sense....but are the parties informing the voters to do this?...or just hearsay?
We've seen the ex Tory candidate letter in Cleggs seat telling Tories to vote LibDem....but is something similar going on in marginals?

[BigAdz]

TBH, I had Tighty down as a clear Labour voter, much as he has done extremely well to look impartial. I didn't say the thread was bad/impartial or otherwise, I don't think?! I have enjoyed it. Doesn't mean I can't be glad when it over.

F&C Free and clear/paid for.

Mullhuzz. Lol. I wouldn't say much you have said is vaguely impartial! Fair do to you though. You say you are far from being a "Labour Man" but the words say something different to these southern softie ears

doubleup. as I said, all other views are totally acceptable. I tend to use stronger language and not trawl the papers/net to justify my views, but I think i am more open minded about some of the stuff posted on here. i have on numerous occasions thought that some of the Labour boys have put up some good points. I doubt the Labour boys have been quite so flexible, judging by the comments on here, anyway. i also don't look down my nose at people that might not be quite so articulate or verbose as myself....

redsimon. Green party.

[Doobs]

I will be glad when its all over now.

Each day, I tell myself not to read this thread. Each day I can't help myself.

Of everyone that has posted on here more than a couple of times, it is so clear which way everyone bar about one person actually votes, and each seem to pick angles/articles to justify their standpoint, and very few here have even opened themselves up to other views. All totally acceptable, but still quite tilting.

As ever, polls are quite interesting. FWIW, I have no idea which way it will go but I suspect despite all the mocking of UKIP here, and in most areas of scrutiny, they will get a massive turnout, maybe not reflected in seats, but certainly in votes.

I live in one of the strongest/longest Tory seats in England, yet all I hear are ground swells of support for UKIP, not just in my constituency, but as I travel round. It's not popular or sensible to wear the ideology openly, but I suspect far more may vote that way.

As an employed person, with a F&C house, and other sources of income, i doubt the whole thing will effect me much whichever way it goes, but I do hope it doesn't all result in the bloody Scots having the balance of power.



Wouldn't be right to not have a little bet, and the 11/10 offered by Hills for both Farage and Clegg to win their seats looks worth a nibble to me, if the Tory tactical vote in Sheffield happens, as thought.

Im also slightly tempted by UKIP at 9/4 to win more seats than Plaid C.

interesting - which way am I voting? Since I assume the 'bar one' person is Tighty......

I think an Adz post detailing who we normally vote for and who we are going to be voting for this time will be interesting.

I can't vote SNP this time, so I am not going to be so obvious.

[TightEnd]

Clegg in "Cardiff central" this morning trying to shore up the LibDem votes, against labour.
Reporter  says the Tories are going to be tactically voting LibDem, to ensure the seat stays LibDem.
Obviously makes sense....but are the parties informing the voters to do this?...or just hearsay?
We've seen the ex Tory candidate letter in Cleggs seat telling Tories to vote LibDem....but is something similar going on in marginals?

its hearsay, the parties can't say it publically

but they sure as heck are saying it on the doorstep lol, and hearing it back

tactical voting in 50 or so constituencies decides this election, the difference beteen 260 and 290 con MPs is the difference between con-lib hitting 323 or not

[TightEnd]

from El Pais' UK correspondent Pablo Guimón

good point i thought

[BigAdz]

I will be glad when its all over now.

Each day, I tell myself not to read this thread. Each day I can't help myself.

Of everyone that has posted on here more than a couple of times, it is so clear which way everyone bar about one person actually votes, and each seem to pick angles/articles to justify their standpoint, and very few here have even opened themselves up to other views. All totally acceptable, but still quite tilting.

As ever, polls are quite interesting. FWIW, I have no idea which way it will go but I suspect despite all the mocking of UKIP here, and in most areas of scrutiny, they will get a massive turnout, maybe not reflected in seats, but certainly in votes.

I live in one of the strongest/longest Tory seats in England, yet all I hear are ground swells of support for UKIP, not just in my constituency, but as I travel round. It's not popular or sensible to wear the ideology openly, but I suspect far more may vote that way.

As an employed person, with a F&C house, and other sources of income, i doubt the whole thing will effect me much whichever way it goes, but I do hope it doesn't all result in the bloody Scots having the balance of power.



Wouldn't be right to not have a little bet, and the 11/10 offered by Hills for both Farage and Clegg to win their seats looks worth a nibble to me, if the Tory tactical vote in Sheffield happens, as thought.

Im also slightly tempted by UKIP at 9/4 to win more seats than Plaid C.

interesting - which way am I voting? Since I assume the 'bar one' person is Tighty......

I think an Adz post detailing who we normally vote for and who we are going to be voting for this time will be interesting.

I can't vote SNP this time, so I am not going to be so obvious.

You were the one I couldn't work out Doobs.

No change there then!!

[TightEnd]

TBH, I had Tighty down as a clear Labour voter

i've done well on this thread then

[BigAdz]

You're younger than i thought.

Not sure a Pearl Necklace looks good on you either, whoever gave it to you!

[bookiebasher]

TBH, I had Tighty down as a clear Labour voter

i've done well on this thread then

I had him down as a clear Conservative voter

[mulhuzz]

TBH, I had Tighty down as a clear Labour voter

i've done well on this thread then

hehe.
think I'd price 'me voting UKIP in any of the next 20 elections' around the same as Tighty voting Labour in two consecutive elections.

and Adz -  I've voted in three national elections, and never once considered Labour, even though they traditionally do well (read: a lock) where I'm from.