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Question: How will you vote on December 12th 2019
Conservative - 19 (33.9%)
Labour - 12 (21.4%)
SNP - 2 (3.6%)
Lib Dem - 8 (14.3%)
Brexit - 1 (1.8%)
Green - 6 (10.7%)
Other - 2 (3.6%)
Spoil - 0 (0%)
Not voting - 6 (10.7%)
Total Voters: 55

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« Reply #18090 on: June 14, 2019, 10:37:00 PM »
Lefties rounding on each other now  Cheesy

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/14/chuka-umunna-labour-liberal-democrat-hypocrisy
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« Reply #18091 on: June 15, 2019, 12:01:26 PM »
Quote from: TightEnd on June 14, 2019, 03:50:44 PM
Extraordinary polarisation going on between Leave and Remain vote, according to today's YouGov.

Voting intention (2016 Leave voters)

Brexit 56
Con 23
Lab 10
LD 3
Grn 3
SNP 2
UKIP 1

Voting Intention (2016 Remain voters)

LD 38
Lab 28
Con 12
Grn 12
SNP 6
Brexit 2

Next GE could be very very hung

woah....

18-24: LibDem 33%, Labour 28, Green 18, Brexit 7, Cons 7
25-49: Lab 25, LibDem 23, Brexit 19, Green 12, Cons 12

50-64: Brexit 36, LibDem 20, Labour 16, Cons 15, Green 7
65+: Brexit 34, Cons 30, LibDems 18, Labour 11, Green 2
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« Reply #18092 on: June 15, 2019, 12:28:14 PM »
a good read

The race to yield the no-deal scalpel.

Brexit Blog post on how no-deal came to frame the leadership contest, why Brexiter faith in Boris Johnson may be misplaced, and how Britain is at the mercy of amateur surgery.

http://chrisgreybrexitblog.blogspot.com/2019/06/the-race-to-wield-no-deal-scalpel.html
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« Reply #18093 on: June 15, 2019, 12:29:17 PM »
"Something terrible is about to happen and we are powerless to stop it"

the week in review...

https://www.politics.co.uk/comment-analysis/2019/06/14/week-in-review-something-terrible-is-about-to-happen-and-we
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« Reply #18094 on: June 15, 2019, 08:15:38 PM »
Quote from: Woodsey on June 14, 2019, 10:37:00 PM
Lefties rounding on each other now  Cheesy

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/14/chuka-umunna-labour-liberal-democrat-hypocrisy

Well found Woodsey.

Must be plenty more good news stories our impartial overlord could find if he looked harder. Wink Cheesy
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« Reply #18095 on: June 15, 2019, 08:24:32 PM »
Quote from: TightEnd on June 14, 2019, 02:46:48 PM
A subtle headline

This is perfect, there can’t be a better collective noun than a ‘Clusterfuck of Conservatives’
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« Reply #18096 on: June 15, 2019, 08:27:43 PM »
Quote from: BigAdz on June 15, 2019, 08:15:38 PM
Quote from: Woodsey on June 14, 2019, 10:37:00 PM
Lefties rounding on each other now  Cheesy

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/14/chuka-umunna-labour-liberal-democrat-hypocrisy

Well found Woodsey.

Must be plenty more good news stories our impartial overlord could find if he looked harder. Wink Cheesy

Try and explain how that is good news.
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« Reply #18097 on: June 15, 2019, 09:30:06 PM »
Quote from: kukushkin88 on June 15, 2019, 08:27:43 PM
Quote from: BigAdz on June 15, 2019, 08:15:38 PM
Quote from: Woodsey on June 14, 2019, 10:37:00 PM
Lefties rounding on each other now  Cheesy

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/14/chuka-umunna-labour-liberal-democrat-hypocrisy

Well found Woodsey.

Must be plenty more good news stories our impartial overlord could find if he looked harder. Wink Cheesy

Try and explain how that is good news.

Well, its not anti Tory or anti Brexit, a welcome change from the norm on here.. Grin
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« Reply #18098 on: June 15, 2019, 09:39:00 PM »
Quote from: BigAdz on June 15, 2019, 09:30:06 PM
Quote from: kukushkin88 on June 15, 2019, 08:27:43 PM
Quote from: BigAdz on June 15, 2019, 08:15:38 PM
Quote from: Woodsey on June 14, 2019, 10:37:00 PM
Lefties rounding on each other now  Cheesy

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/14/chuka-umunna-labour-liberal-democrat-hypocrisy

Well found Woodsey.

Must be plenty more good news stories our impartial overlord could find if he looked harder. Wink Cheesy

Try and explain how that is good news.

Well, its not anti Tory or anti Brexit, a welcome change from the norm on here.. Grin

Kuku’s gonna be in a proper tail spin when Boris gets the top job 
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« Reply #18099 on: June 16, 2019, 10:29:34 AM »
This is the 3rd lead in a row for the Brexit Party

The big question for the next Conservative leader, in many ways THE question, is how to get a 24% vote down below 5% ...

Brexit Party 24% (-2)
Cons 21% (+4)
Labour 21% (+2)
Lib Dem 19% (-3)

YouGov (change Jun 10)
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« Reply #18100 on: June 16, 2019, 10:30:24 AM »
I think this is behind a wall, but for the many of you who will have FT access....

Britain's next Prime Minister will be decided by the Conservative party membership. What does this group look like?

chart heaven

https://www.ft.com/content/bb0f1368-8df0-11e9-a1c1-51bf8f989972
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« Reply #18101 on: June 16, 2019, 10:36:24 AM »
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This is the 3rd lead in a row for the Brexit Party

The big question for the next Conservative leader, in many ways THE question, is how to get a 24% vote down below 5% ...

Brexit Party 24% (-2)
Cons 21% (+4)
Labour 21% (+2)
Lib Dem 19% (-3)

YouGov (change Jun 10)

Very easy answer, just deliver Brexit.....
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« Reply #18102 on: June 16, 2019, 10:42:54 AM »
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Quote from: TightEnd on June 16, 2019, 10:29:34 AM
This is the 3rd lead in a row for the Brexit Party

The big question for the next Conservative leader, in many ways THE question, is how to get a 24% vote down below 5% ...

Brexit Party 24% (-2)
Cons 21% (+4)
Labour 21% (+2)
Lib Dem 19% (-3)

YouGov (change Jun 10)

Very easy answer, just deliver Brexit.....

almost impossible to deliver. Can't renegotiate WA, Parliament blocks no deal, referendum a no no, GE they lose

hence my question
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« Reply #18103 on: June 16, 2019, 10:50:59 AM »
Quote from: TightEnd on June 16, 2019, 10:42:54 AM
Quote from: Woodsey on June 16, 2019, 10:36:24 AM
Quote from: TightEnd on June 16, 2019, 10:29:34 AM
This is the 3rd lead in a row for the Brexit Party

The big question for the next Conservative leader, in many ways THE question, is how to get a 24% vote down below 5% ...

Brexit Party 24% (-2)
Cons 21% (+4)
Labour 21% (+2)
Lib Dem 19% (-3)

YouGov (change Jun 10)

Very easy answer, just deliver Brexit.....

almost impossible to deliver. Can't renegotiate WA, Parliament blocks no deal, referendum a no no, GE they lose

hence my question

Your question wasn’t about delivering it, it was how to get the Brexit vote down to 5%, the answer was easy....
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« Reply #18104 on: June 16, 2019, 10:55:49 AM »
it is precisely the opposite.
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