The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[Archer]

Conversation about the Express has prompted me have a look for the first time in an age. Good reading material for Adz again and great for bringing balance to the debate

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[Archer]

A section dedicated to Johnson as well. I particularly like "Rees Mogg hits out at Boris Johnson's Corbynista curtain twitching neighbours" and "Patel fears nasty remainer plot to stop Boris delivering for our country"

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[Archer]

Emma Barnett is a great interviewer and this is excellent:

A heated discussion between Boris Johnson backer Daniel Kawczynski MP and @EmmaBarnett over whether free trade is possible under Gatt 24 in a no deal Brexit.

🗣️“I don’t believe he is incorrect”

🎙️“Because you don’t believe facts?”

https://twitter.com/bbc5live/status/1143094085567176709

[Archer]

It can be perplexing that leading Brexiters still don't grasp the detail and/or continuously lie about it.
Why do they do that?

An interesting thread here from a Brexiter turned Remainer:

https://twitter.com/rolandmcs/status/1142517364908613633

[Pokerpops]

It can be perplexing that leading Brexiters still don't grasp the detail and/or continuously lie about it.
Why do they do that?

An interesting thread here from a Brexiter turned Remainer:

https://twitter.com/rolandmcs/status/1142517364908613633

That is excellent.
Thank you

[Dewi_cool]

Found this very interesting it'a about the role of Facebook in the referendum.

https://www.ted.com/talks/carole_cadwalladr_facebook_s_role_in_brexit_and_the_threat_to_democracy?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tedspread

[TightEnd]

Jeremy Hunt, the "more sensible" of two candidates for Prime Minister, actually said this, and it was written down verbatim,

not so I can stare at it in complete disbelief, that's a bi-product.

[TightEnd]

This Cohen piece on the cultural currents carrying Johnson to No. 10 cuts deep, not least because was written 3 years ago

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/26/boris-johnson-mendacious-eu-referendum-next-prime-minister

As we see on these pages every day, in everything from Field to Johnson and so on, Brexit has become a proxy for a cultural struggle that has ever less to do with the UK’s practical relationship with the EU.

[TightEnd]

You can't just bang on about "mettle" and "creativity". You have to set out a plan. An actual plan.

3 years down the line, where is a credible one?

Here's Boris banging on about mettle and creativity! (The Geoff Boycott Mantra)

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2019/06/23/three-long-years-since-voted-leave-can-must-will-do-october/

[TightEnd]

Boris Johnson’s pitch is all about his character. That’s why the row in his flat matters

Matthew d’Ancona

It's in the guardian, so feel free to ignore it

Good writer though

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/jun/23/boris-johnson-politics-personality-row-flat-prime-minister

[TightEnd]

When Dr Liam Fox can't even defend your Brexit plans, you have problems

"Liam Fox on Boris Johnson’s ‘GATT 24’ Brexit claims: “It isn’t true, that’s the problem”

The trade secretary tells Marr that the argument from Boris Johnson, that we can use world trade rules to avoid tariffs after Brexit, “isn’t true”

http://bbc.in/2tnzxS0 "

[Archer]

Ian Dunt in an article aimed at an American audience explaining the pooh we are in:

https://gen.medium.com/a-short-guide-to-britains-long-attempt-to-leave-europe-27825d37337e

[TightEnd]

^ thanks for posting these.

Dunt doesn't hold back.

[Archer]

Found this very interesting it'a about the role of Facebook in the referendum.

https://www.ted.com/talks/carole_cadwalladr_facebook_s_role_in_brexit_and_the_threat_to_democracy?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=tedspread

Excellent.

She doesn't name  Bannon in  the presentation but he of course has links to Cambridge Analytics and all the main players mentioned - Trump, Stone, Farage, Banks etc.

As Tighty posted yesterday, he has concerns with trumpification and Bannon's influence on Johnson.

The story of the weekend really  was the video of Bannon/JOhnson links as coverered by Carole Cadwalladr here: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2019/jun/22/boris-johnson-steve-bannon-texts-foreign-secretary-resignation-speech

I see from her twitter that Banks is now suing her...

[SuuPRlim]

so funny that Boris called Putin "dobbie the house elf" then went on to be foreign secretary, and now he's going to be Prime Minister