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Question: How will you vote on December 12th 2019
Conservative - 19 (33.9%)
Labour - 12 (21.4%)
SNP - 2 (3.6%)
Lib Dem - 8 (14.3%)
Brexit - 1 (1.8%)
Green - 6 (10.7%)
Other - 2 (3.6%)
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Not voting - 6 (10.7%)
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« Reply #22800 on: April 04, 2020, 11:08:25 AM »

Congrats Keir Starmer, good luck in your persuit of being the next losing labour leader 
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« Reply #22801 on: April 04, 2020, 11:37:55 AM »

BBC News has a strap at the bottom reading: Starmer won 56.2% of the vote Raynor won 52.6%.
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« Reply #22802 on: April 04, 2020, 11:58:55 AM »

BBC News has a strap at the bottom reading: Starmer won 56.2% of the vote Raynor won 52.6%.

They were voted in for different positions, leader and deputy leader, so probably correct.
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« Reply #22803 on: April 04, 2020, 12:37:09 PM »

BBC News has a strap at the bottom reading: Starmer won 56.2% of the vote Raynor won 52.6%.

They were voted in for different positions, leader and deputy leader, so probably correct.
Full results here

https://labour.org.uk/people/leadership-elections-hub-2020/leadership-elections-2020-results/

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« Reply #22804 on: April 08, 2020, 04:12:24 PM »

It seems to have been missed by much of the press but Seumas Milne has left his job with the labour party.   Can't say I am sad.
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« Reply #22805 on: April 13, 2020, 12:06:20 PM »


Everyone apply for their own filters for political bias/skewed perspectives etc:

https://twitter.com/frankcottrell_b/status/1249628985379692545?s=21

I haven’t read the book, I’ve been meaning to for a while, I definitely have the time now.
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« Reply #22806 on: April 13, 2020, 01:39:35 PM »

In other news, looks increasingly like Labour will spend the next couple of years fighting each other rather than being an opposition or engaging anew with the electorate. Wallopers.
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« Reply #22807 on: April 13, 2020, 03:00:04 PM »

In other news, looks increasingly like Labour will spend the next couple of years fighting each other rather than being an opposition or engaging anew with the electorate. Wallopers.

In summary.

Some nasty people in the labour party have said bad things about other people in the labour party say some nasty people in the labour party who have spent the last five years saying bad things about other people in the labour party.

Good on Keir for trying to bring both sides into his cabinet.  Bringing in both sides means inviting centrists as well as lefties, duh.  Wallopers indeed.



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« Reply #22808 on: April 13, 2020, 04:07:45 PM »

In other news, looks increasingly like Labour will spend the next couple of years fighting each other rather than being an opposition or engaging anew with the electorate. Wallopers.

In summary.

Some nasty people in the labour party have said bad things about other people in the labour party say some nasty people in the labour party who have spent the last five years saying bad things about other people in the labour party.

Good on Keir for trying to bring both sides into his cabinet.  Bringing in both sides means inviting centrists as well as lefties, duh.  Wallopers indeed.





'm sure it's germane but I don't have a clue what you just said. In other news, the sky is blue
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« Reply #22809 on: April 13, 2020, 04:38:41 PM »

In other news, looks increasingly like Labour will spend the next couple of years fighting each other rather than being an opposition or engaging anew with the electorate. Wallopers.

In summary.

Some nasty people in the labour party have said bad things about other people in the labour party say some nasty people in the labour party who have spent the last five years saying bad things about other people in the labour party.

Good on Keir for trying to bring both sides into his cabinet.  Bringing in both sides means inviting centrists as well as lefties, duh.  Wallopers indeed.





'm sure it's germane but I don't have a clue what you just said. In other news, the sky is blue


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« Reply #22810 on: April 19, 2020, 11:20:54 AM »

 Cheesy

Labour still clowning around I see.....

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/apr/19/labour-party-financial-peril-keir-starmer-members-leaked-report
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« Reply #22811 on: April 22, 2020, 12:41:15 PM »

A heavyweight silk vs a real life Lionel Hutz at PMQ’s.

[/url][youtube] https://youtu.be/dqN41aEzVCM[youtube][/url]

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« Reply #22812 on: April 22, 2020, 01:13:07 PM »

A heavyweight silk vs a real life Lionel Hutz at PMQ’s.

[/url][youtube] https://youtu.be/dqN41aEzVCM[youtube][/url]



I listened to this with some interest. Starmer is a clearly a seasoned politician and has a more forensic approach to that of Corbyn. I don’t see how your Simpsons video is relevant though.

He got his wider points across well, but the truth is that the circumstances cry out for a co-operative approach and to hide behind a cloak of ‘constructive criticism’ as you attempt to generalise from isolated individual cases is in no way helpful.

Obviously a Starmer led government would have had a secret store of tests in place for Covid19 ready to roll on the day it hit the country.

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« Reply #22813 on: April 22, 2020, 01:24:46 PM »

A heavyweight silk vs a real life Lionel Hutz at PMQ’s.

[/url][youtube] https://youtu.be/dqN41aEzVCM[youtube][/url]



I listened to this with some interest. Starmer is a clearly a seasoned politician and has a more forensic approach to that of Corbyn. I don’t see how your Simpsons video is relevant though.

He got his wider points across well, but the truth is that the circumstances cry out for a co-operative approach and to hide behind a cloak of ‘constructive criticism’ as you attempt to generalise from isolated individual cases is in no way helpful.

Obviously a Starmer led government would have had a secret store of tests in place for Covid19 ready to roll on the day it hit the country.


The video is just a jokey reference (they are both lawyers) to the fact that Keir was a top top QC and by comparison Raab’s credentials as a lawyer are rather similar to those possessed by Lionel Hutz.

The second point is tired Woodsey/Mantis type nonsense. The modern political divide is at least partly characterised by believing in public investment or not believing in public investment. Of course you’d be in a better position to deal with a pandemic if you had a bigger and better funded public sector. Just the 100,000 or so shortage of NHS staff tells us this. They can’t run the Nightingale in London because they don’t have enough nurses. 41 patients treated so far, 50 rejected due to staffing shortages.
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« Reply #22814 on: April 22, 2020, 01:34:40 PM »

A heavyweight silk vs a real life Lionel Hutz at PMQ’s.

[/url][youtube] https://youtu.be/dqN41aEzVCM[youtube][/url]



I listened to this with some interest. Starmer is a clearly a seasoned politician and has a more forensic approach to that of Corbyn. I don’t see how your Simpsons video is relevant though.

He got his wider points across well, but the truth is that the circumstances cry out for a co-operative approach and to hide behind a cloak of ‘constructive criticism’ as you attempt to generalise from isolated individual cases is in no way helpful.

Obviously a Starmer led government would have had a secret store of tests in place for Covid19 ready to roll on the day it hit the country.


The video is just a jokey reference (they are both lawyers) to the fact that Keir was a top top QC and by comparison Raab’s credentials as a lawyer are rather similar to those possessed by Lionel Hutz.

The second point is tired Woodsey/Mantis type nonsense. The modern political divide is at least partly characterised by believing in public investment or not believing in public investment. Of course you’d be in a better position to deal with a pandemic if you had a bigger and better funded public sector. Just the 100,000 or so shortage of NHS staff tells us this. They can’t run the Nightingale in London because they don’t have enough nurses. 41 patients treated so far, 50 rejected due to staffing shortages.

Your probably going to have a Tory government for the rest of your life......get used to it and stop whining.
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