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« Reply #22815 on: April 22, 2020, 01:35:01 PM »

A heavyweight silk vs a real life Lionel Hutz at PMQ’s.

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I listened to this with some interest. Starmer is a clearly a seasoned politician and has a more forensic approach to that of Corbyn. I don’t see how your Simpsons video is relevant though.

He got his wider points across well, but the truth is that the circumstances cry out for a co-operative approach and to hide behind a cloak of ‘constructive criticism’ as you attempt to generalise from isolated individual cases is in no way helpful.

Obviously a Starmer led government would have had a secret store of tests in place for Covid19 ready to roll on the day it hit the country.


The video is just a jokey reference (they are both lawyers) to the fact that Keir was a top top QC and by comparison Raab’s credentials as a lawyer are rather similar to those possessed by Lionel Hutz.

The second point is tired Woodsey/Mantis type nonsense. The modern political divide is at least partly characterised by believing in public investment or not believing in public investment. Of course you’d be in a better position to deal with a pandemic if you had a bigger and better funded public sector. Just the 100,000 or so shortage of NHS staff tells us this. They can’t run the Nightingale in London because they don’t have enough nurses. 41 patients treated so far, 50 rejected due to staffing shortages.

Hold fire on the Nightingale numbers, can’t find the source where I read. I’ll be back.
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« Reply #22816 on: April 22, 2020, 01:37:19 PM »

A heavyweight silk vs a real life Lionel Hutz at PMQ’s.

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I listened to this with some interest. Starmer is a clearly a seasoned politician and has a more forensic approach to that of Corbyn. I don’t see how your Simpsons video is relevant though.

He got his wider points across well, but the truth is that the circumstances cry out for a co-operative approach and to hide behind a cloak of ‘constructive criticism’ as you attempt to generalise from isolated individual cases is in no way helpful.

Obviously a Starmer led government would have had a secret store of tests in place for Covid19 ready to roll on the day it hit the country.


The video is just a jokey reference (they are both lawyers) to the fact that Keir was a top top QC and by comparison Raab’s credentials as a lawyer are rather similar to those possessed by Lionel Hutz.

The second point is tired Woodsey/Mantis type nonsense. The modern political divide is at least partly characterised by believing in public investment or not believing in public investment. Of course you’d be in a better position to deal with a pandemic if you had a bigger and better funded public sector. Just the 100,000 or so shortage of NHS staff tells us this. They can’t run the Nightingale in London because they don’t have enough nurses. 41 patients treated so far, 50 rejected due to staffing shortages.

Your probably going to have a Tory government for the rest of your life......get used to it and stop whining.

It doesn’t diminish my life in any meaningful way (although it might shorten it quite a bit I guess), millions aren’t as fortunate.
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« Reply #22817 on: April 22, 2020, 01:39:52 PM »

A heavyweight silk vs a real life Lionel Hutz at PMQ’s.

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I listened to this with some interest. Starmer is a clearly a seasoned politician and has a more forensic approach to that of Corbyn. I don’t see how your Simpsons video is relevant though.

He got his wider points across well, but the truth is that the circumstances cry out for a co-operative approach and to hide behind a cloak of ‘constructive criticism’ as you attempt to generalise from isolated individual cases is in no way helpful.

Obviously a Starmer led government would have had a secret store of tests in place for Covid19 ready to roll on the day it hit the country.


The video is just a jokey reference (they are both lawyers) to the fact that Keir was a top top QC and by comparison Raab’s credentials as a lawyer are rather similar to those possessed by Lionel Hutz.

The second point is tired Woodsey/Mantis type nonsense. The modern political divide is at least partly characterised by believing in public investment or not believing in public investment. Of course you’d be in a better position to deal with a pandemic if you had a bigger and better funded public sector. Just the 100,000 or so shortage of NHS staff tells us this. They can’t run the Nightingale in London because they don’t have enough nurses. 41 patients treated so far, 50 rejected due to staffing shortages.

Your probably going to have a Tory government for the rest of your life......get used to it and stop whining.

It doesn’t diminish my life in any meaningful way (although it might shorten it quite a bit I guess), millions aren’t as fortunate.

Of course it does, you spend your life constantly  moaning about the Tories, that can’t be a good mindset to have or be good for mental health in any way.
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« Reply #22818 on: April 22, 2020, 04:33:12 PM »

A heavyweight silk vs a real life Lionel Hutz at PMQ’s.

[/url][youtube] https://youtu.be/dqN41aEzVCM[youtube][/url]



I listened to this with some interest. Starmer is a clearly a seasoned politician and has a more forensic approach to that of Corbyn. I don’t see how your Simpsons video is relevant though.

He got his wider points across well, but the truth is that the circumstances cry out for a co-operative approach and to hide behind a cloak of ‘constructive criticism’ as you attempt to generalise from isolated individual cases is in no way helpful.

Obviously a Starmer led government would have had a secret store of tests in place for Covid19 ready to roll on the day it hit the country.


The video is just a jokey reference (they are both lawyers) to the fact that Keir was a top top QC and by comparison Raab’s credentials as a lawyer are rather similar to those possessed by Lionel Hutz.

The second point is tired Woodsey/Mantis type nonsense. The modern political divide is at least partly characterised by believing in public investment or not believing in public investment. Of course you’d be in a better position to deal with a pandemic if you had a bigger and better funded public sector. Just the 100,000 or so shortage of NHS staff tells us this. They can’t run the Nightingale in London because they don’t have enough nurses. 41 patients treated so far, 50 rejected due to staffing shortages.

The government have refuted the stories about staff shortages - they say the Nightingale hospitals are working at the capacity they are needed. They haven't got more beds open because they don't need them, not because they lack staff.
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« Reply #22819 on: April 22, 2020, 04:49:29 PM »

A heavyweight silk vs a real life Lionel Hutz at PMQ’s.

[/url][youtube] https://youtu.be/dqN41aEzVCM[youtube][/url]



I listened to this with some interest. Starmer is a clearly a seasoned politician and has a more forensic approach to that of Corbyn. I don’t see how your Simpsons video is relevant though.

He got his wider points across well, but the truth is that the circumstances cry out for a co-operative approach and to hide behind a cloak of ‘constructive criticism’ as you attempt to generalise from isolated individual cases is in no way helpful.

Obviously a Starmer led government would have had a secret store of tests in place for Covid19 ready to roll on the day it hit the country.


The video is just a jokey reference (they are both lawyers) to the fact that Keir was a top top QC and by comparison Raab’s credentials as a lawyer are rather similar to those possessed by Lionel Hutz.

The second point is tired Woodsey/Mantis type nonsense. The modern political divide is at least partly characterised by believing in public investment or not believing in public investment. Of course you’d be in a better position to deal with a pandemic if you had a bigger and better funded public sector. Just the 100,000 or so shortage of NHS staff tells us this. They can’t run the Nightingale in London because they don’t have enough nurses. 41 patients treated so far, 50 rejected due to staffing shortages.

The government have refuted the stories about staff shortages - they say the Nightingale hospitals are working at the capacity they are needed. They haven't got more beds open because they don't need them, not because they lack staff.

That doesn’t suit Kuku’s narrative though.

Weird sense of humour with the Simpsons thing. Each to their own though.
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« Reply #22820 on: April 22, 2020, 04:53:46 PM »

A heavyweight silk vs a real life Lionel Hutz at PMQ’s.

[/url][youtube] https://youtu.be/dqN41aEzVCM[youtube][/url]



I listened to this with some interest. Starmer is a clearly a seasoned politician and has a more forensic approach to that of Corbyn. I don’t see how your Simpsons video is relevant though.

He got his wider points across well, but the truth is that the circumstances cry out for a co-operative approach and to hide behind a cloak of ‘constructive criticism’ as you attempt to generalise from isolated individual cases is in no way helpful.

Obviously a Starmer led government would have had a secret store of tests in place for Covid19 ready to roll on the day it hit the country.


The video is just a jokey reference (they are both lawyers) to the fact that Keir was a top top QC and by comparison Raab’s credentials as a lawyer are rather similar to those possessed by Lionel Hutz.

The second point is tired Woodsey/Mantis type nonsense. The modern political divide is at least partly characterised by believing in public investment or not believing in public investment. Of course you’d be in a better position to deal with a pandemic if you had a bigger and better funded public sector. Just the 100,000 or so shortage of NHS staff tells us this. They can’t run the Nightingale in London because they don’t have enough nurses. 41 patients treated so far, 50 rejected due to staffing shortages.

I will accept the compliment.

How are you planning on paying for the bigger and better funded public sector?

I call BS on the Nightingale Hospital.
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« Reply #22821 on: April 22, 2020, 05:10:13 PM »

A heavyweight silk vs a real life Lionel Hutz at PMQ’s.

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I listened to this with some interest. Starmer is a clearly a seasoned politician and has a more forensic approach to that of Corbyn. I don’t see how your Simpsons video is relevant though.

He got his wider points across well, but the truth is that the circumstances cry out for a co-operative approach and to hide behind a cloak of ‘constructive criticism’ as you attempt to generalise from isolated individual cases is in no way helpful.

Obviously a Starmer led government would have had a secret store of tests in place for Covid19 ready to roll on the day it hit the country.


The video is just a jokey reference (they are both lawyers) to the fact that Keir was a top top QC and by comparison Raab’s credentials as a lawyer are rather similar to those possessed by Lionel Hutz.

The second point is tired Woodsey/Mantis type nonsense. The modern political divide is at least partly characterised by believing in public investment or not believing in public investment. Of course you’d be in a better position to deal with a pandemic if you had a bigger and better funded public sector. Just the 100,000 or so shortage of NHS staff tells us this. They can’t run the Nightingale in London because they don’t have enough nurses. 41 patients treated so far, 50 rejected due to staffing shortages.

I will accept the compliment.

How are you planning on paying for the bigger and better funded public sector?

I call BS on the Nightingale Hospital.

Initially loads of borrowing, after that, loads of tax. We could just do a Rishi and get 100’s if billions in ‘ways and means’ as a BoE overdraft.

Let’s wait and see on The Nightingale, most of what the government says atm is provably untrue within days/hours. It would be naive to think this will be different.

Very impressive calling bullshit on it, when I’d already brought to your attention there were doubts over it.
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« Reply #22822 on: April 22, 2020, 06:02:19 PM »


This is good 😂:

https://twitter.com/alain_tolhurst/status/1252987811751436293?s=21
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« Reply #22823 on: May 01, 2020, 10:27:21 AM »


Monbiot, Gove, Jakally and me, all on the same page today:

https://twitter.com/georgemonbiot/status/1256135296560836608?s=21
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« Reply #22824 on: May 27, 2020, 03:51:39 PM »

Frost confirms U.K. will not ask for an extension nor agree to one if offered

Barnier wrote to the opposition parties earlier and said 2 years more of transition was on offer if we wanted it in the circumstances


So, a full no deal brexit on top of COVID and a deep (completely unforecastable but a total game-changer) recession.

Roll on 2021 everyone?
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« Reply #22825 on: May 28, 2020, 10:12:18 AM »


What a laughing stock we are! (part 2 of things it’s hard to imagine). It’s hard to imagine a person where the idea of trusting them is more ridiculous than Dipshit Johnson. You have to assume it’s a joke but it really isn’t:

https://twitter.com/steverichards14/status/1265920805751455744?s=21
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« Reply #22826 on: June 06, 2020, 10:37:53 AM »

Matthew Parris, Boris: both barrels.

Corruscating stuff if you can access

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/things-are-about-to-get-even-worse-for-boris-johnson-q08g30mbx
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« Reply #22827 on: June 06, 2020, 10:51:31 AM »

Matthew Parris, Boris: both barrels.

Corruscating stuff if you can access

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/things-are-about-to-get-even-worse-for-boris-johnson-q08g30mbx

The article should appear in the archive soon but for now, a highlights package:

https://twitter.com/paul__johnson/status/1269161637480747012?s=21
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« Reply #22828 on: June 06, 2020, 02:46:35 PM »


This was behind the paywall but has been released. Which as much as the article itself, provides an insight in to what they think of him atm:

https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/boris-johnson-isn-t-fit-to-lead
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« Reply #22829 on: June 18, 2020, 08:01:19 PM »

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