The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[ripple11]

In isolation that Farage poster was pretty distasteful.  It shows an enormous queue of Syrian refugees or similar, when most of this perceived excess immigration is from Eastern Europe.  It is clearly targeted at people's underlying racism. 

I totally agree on that. 

I have no issue with migrants as I have said on numerous occasions.  I do believe immigration at current levels is a problem that needs dealt with but it needs a sensible approach and a degree of compassion. There should be absolutely no question in my mind that those fleeing war and persecution should be allowed in without having to jump through hoops, but people coming here with absolutely no intention of working needs looked at.

This Jo Cox think makes no sense to me.  I'm sure there will be a perfectly believable conspiracy around it in due course.   

I searched #jocox on twitter just after I heard of the attack and somebody was already suggesting that "they" had killed her to swing the referendum.   Inside the heads of people like that must be a weird place.

Didn't seen these conspiracy/ twitter theories, but remain odds went from 4/6 to 1/2 pretty quickly.

[PokerBroker]

Polls out the night, anyone want to take a guess at the impact this will have on them?

[AndrewT]

Polls out the night, anyone want to take a guess at the impact this will have on them?

Final Observer poll has it neck and neck at 44% each with 10% undecided - Brexit now out to 3 on Betfair.

[AndrewT]

Survation poll has Remain on 45% (+3) and Leave on 42% (-3)

Yougov Remain 42% (+3) Leave 44% (-2)

Clear movement back to Remain.

[DMorgan]

25 minute talk from EU Law Professor, discusses legal and constitutional impact of our EU membership and what the implications of Brexit might be

[Woodsey]

25 minute talk from EU Law Professor, discusses legal and constitutional impact of our EU membership and what the implications of Brexit might be

Does he support remain by chance? 😆

[DMorgan]

lol of course he does like just about every other academic. They might all be wrong though

He sets out his own position straight at the off tbf

He gives a unique (from what I've seen or heard) insight into how treaties and bilateral agreements come about and what the legal framework of the much touted Swiss and Norwegian systems of membership of the single market look like, what trading under WTO rules looks like, how and why decision making power makes its way to Brussels. I haven't read much detailed information about those.

This guy has worked on exactly the kind of trade deals that the Leave campaign states that we will make with both the EU and the rest of the world. Essentially setting out why expecting everyone to be queuing up to make deals and thrashing everything out in the 2 year window is hopelessly optimistic in the view of almost everyone in that field.

[Woodsey]

lol of course he does like just about every other academic. They might all be wrong though

He sets out his own position straight at the off tbf

He gives a unique (from what I've seen or heard) insight into how treaties and bilateral agreements come about and what the legal framework of the much touted Swiss and Norwegian systems of membership of the single market look like, what trading under WTO rules looks like, how and why decision making power makes its way to Brussels. I haven't read much detailed information about those.

This guy has worked on exactly the kind of trade deals that the Leave campaign states that we will make with both the EU and the rest of the world. Essentially setting out why expecting everyone to be queuing up to make deals and thrashing everything out in the 2 year window is hopelessly optimistic in the view of almost everyone in that field.

I guess all the superior smart people are voting to remain and all the thicko's are going for brexit then lol.

[Marky147]

lol of course he does like just about every other academic. They might all be wrong though

He sets out his own position straight at the off tbf

He gives a unique (from what I've seen or heard) insight into how treaties and bilateral agreements come about and what the legal framework of the much touted Swiss and Norwegian systems of membership of the single market look like, what trading under WTO rules looks like, how and why decision making power makes its way to Brussels. I haven't read much detailed information about those.

This guy has worked on exactly the kind of trade deals that the Leave campaign states that we will make with both the EU and the rest of the world. Essentially setting out why expecting everyone to be queuing up to make deals and thrashing everything out in the 2 year window is hopelessly optimistic in the view of almost everyone in that field.

I guess all the superior smart people are voting to remain and all the thicko's are going for brexit then lol.

I must be the exception that makes the rule, lol.

[DMorgan]

I guess all the superior smart people are voting to remain and all the thicko's are going for brexit then lol.

The stats are open to interpretation of course



From an esteemed outlet too

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/21/eu-referendum-who-in-britain-wants-to-leave-and-who-wants-to-rem/

[Woodsey]

I guess all the superior smart people are voting to remain and all the thicko's are going for brexit then lol.

The stats are open to interpretation of course



From an esteemed outlet too

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/03/21/eu-referendum-who-in-britain-wants-to-leave-and-who-wants-to-rem/

Yes I know we had all the same bullshit being touted at the last general election on here, smart people vote labour too don't you know, how does it feel to be superior? 

[muckthenuts]

lol of course he does like just about every other academic. They might all be wrong though

He sets out his own position straight at the off tbf

He gives a unique (from what I've seen or heard) insight into how treaties and bilateral agreements come about and what the legal framework of the much touted Swiss and Norwegian systems of membership of the single market look like, what trading under WTO rules looks like, how and why decision making power makes its way to Brussels. I haven't read much detailed information about those.

This guy has worked on exactly the kind of trade deals that the Leave campaign states that we will make with both the EU and the rest of the world. Essentially setting out why expecting everyone to be queuing up to make deals and thrashing everything out in the 2 year window is hopelessly optimistic in the view of almost everyone in that field.

I guess all the superior smart people are voting to remain and all the thicko's are going for brexit then lol.

Tbh this is precisely the sort of attitude that has been peddled by some stuck-up factions in the remain camp but one i don't agree with. I know some very smart people who are voting out and i can fully understand why. This referendum isn't an intelligence test, it's about your values. Mine just happen to align more with remain.

[Woodsey]

lol of course he does like just about every other academic. They might all be wrong though

He sets out his own position straight at the off tbf

He gives a unique (from what I've seen or heard) insight into how treaties and bilateral agreements come about and what the legal framework of the much touted Swiss and Norwegian systems of membership of the single market look like, what trading under WTO rules looks like, how and why decision making power makes its way to Brussels. I haven't read much detailed information about those.

This guy has worked on exactly the kind of trade deals that the Leave campaign states that we will make with both the EU and the rest of the world. Essentially setting out why expecting everyone to be queuing up to make deals and thrashing everything out in the 2 year window is hopelessly optimistic in the view of almost everyone in that field.

I guess all the superior smart people are voting to remain and all the thicko's are going for brexit then lol.

Tbh this is precisely the sort of attitude that has been peddled by some stuck-up factions in the remain camp but one i don't agree with. I know some very smart people who are voting out and i can fully understand why. This referendum isn't an intelligence test, it's about your values. Mine just happen to align more with remain.

Yup spot on, some people are so biased in their own viewpoint though they will go to any lengths to prove they are 'right'. 

[redsimon]

lol of course he does like just about every other academic. They might all be wrong though

He sets out his own position straight at the off tbf

He gives a unique (from what I've seen or heard) insight into how treaties and bilateral agreements come about and what the legal framework of the much touted Swiss and Norwegian systems of membership of the single market look like, what trading under WTO rules looks like, how and why decision making power makes its way to Brussels. I haven't read much detailed information about those.

This guy has worked on exactly the kind of trade deals that the Leave campaign states that we will make with both the EU and the rest of the world. Essentially setting out why expecting everyone to be queuing up to make deals and thrashing everything out in the 2 year window is hopelessly optimistic in the view of almost everyone in that field.

I guess all the superior smart people are voting to remain and all the thicko's are going for brexit then lol.

Tbh this is precisely the sort of attitude that has been peddled by some stuck-up factions in the remain camp but one i don't agree with. I know some very smart people who are voting out and i can fully understand why. This referendum isn't an intelligence test, it's about your values. Mine just happen to align more with remain.

Yup spot on, some people are so biased in their own viewpoint though they will go to any lengths to prove they are 'right'. 

oh the irony

[Woodsey]

lol of course he does like just about every other academic. They might all be wrong though

He sets out his own position straight at the off tbf

He gives a unique (from what I've seen or heard) insight into how treaties and bilateral agreements come about and what the legal framework of the much touted Swiss and Norwegian systems of membership of the single market look like, what trading under WTO rules looks like, how and why decision making power makes its way to Brussels. I haven't read much detailed information about those.

This guy has worked on exactly the kind of trade deals that the Leave campaign states that we will make with both the EU and the rest of the world. Essentially setting out why expecting everyone to be queuing up to make deals and thrashing everything out in the 2 year window is hopelessly optimistic in the view of almost everyone in that field.

I guess all the superior smart people are voting to remain and all the thicko's are going for brexit then lol.

Tbh this is precisely the sort of attitude that has been peddled by some stuck-up factions in the remain camp but one i don't agree with. I know some very smart people who are voting out and i can fully understand why. This referendum isn't an intelligence test, it's about your values. Mine just happen to align more with remain.

Yup spot on, some people are so biased in their own viewpoint though they will go to any lengths to prove they are 'right'. 

oh the irony

No irony at all, I don't think I'm 'right' about a lot of things, especially stuff on this thread, I have never thought that I only have an opinion same as everyone else.

Some people are convinced they are 'right' thought, even when there is no actual right or wrong believe it or not, gasp, horror....lol