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Question: How will you vote on December 12th 2019
Conservative - 19 (33.9%)
Labour - 12 (21.4%)
SNP - 2 (3.6%)
Lib Dem - 8 (14.3%)
Brexit - 1 (1.8%)
Green - 6 (10.7%)
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« Reply #3690 on: June 25, 2016, 09:57:51 PM »

I fear if there is a second referendum and remain wins there will be unprecedented violence in the streets.

It would be mayhem.


They could do best of three....
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« Reply #3691 on: June 25, 2016, 09:59:31 PM »

I fear if there is a second referendum and remain wins there will be unprecedented violence in the streets.

It would be mayhem.


They could do best of three....

Well I suppose certain poker sites allow you to 'run it twice'.
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« Reply #3692 on: June 25, 2016, 10:01:23 PM »

Odds on a world war starting as an excuse to delay and distract us from going through with it? Cameron decides to stick around for the safety of the country in this difficult time?
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« Reply #3693 on: June 25, 2016, 10:08:04 PM »

Odds on a world war starting as an excuse to delay and distract us from going through with it? Cameron decides to stick around for the safety of the country in this difficult time?

Cameron is toast. Never been a fan but do feel a bit sorry for him that his legacy is going to be the guy who lead us out of Europe.

As for future wars, maybe in 30/50/100 years time we will have Armageddon and they'll trace the day history changed to Thurs when the UK left the EU.

Or maybe life will just go on as it always does!
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« Reply #3694 on: June 25, 2016, 10:09:17 PM »

Odds on a world war starting as an excuse to delay and distract us from going through with it? Cameron decides to stick around for the safety of the country in this difficult time?

Cameron is toast. Never been a fan but do feel a bit sorry for him that his legacy is going to be the guy who lead us out of Europe.

As for future wars, maybe in 30/50/100 years time we will have Armageddon and they'll trace the day history changed to Thurs when the UK left the EU.

Or maybe life will just go on as it always does!

He might be the greatest PM in history getting out 20 years before it collapses.  Why do people only look at his legacy from one angle?  No one knows what is going to happen to the EU longer term.   The EU is becoming less and less relevant to the global economy.  Now we have left it will become even more irrelevant now our chunk on turnover isn't included in the figures.
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« Reply #3695 on: June 25, 2016, 10:11:34 PM »

Why can't the Remain voters just accept the result?
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IF they had won Cameron would have been gloating about how fantastic he had been (I am a Comservative voter) and there would been none of this talk of 2nd referendum.

Accept the fact and do what Britain does best, unite and get on with it and show what a GREAT country we are.
I do personally. The petitition is over 2m now. A Amor beef appears to be the farage nhs u turn and the hannan "immigration isn't going to fall" newsnight appearance so the argument goes the vote was taken on the basis of a fraudulent campaign

Whens osbornes emergency budget?

You do realise the financial ramifications haven't even started to be played out here at all?  As it stands, all the delay to October is doing is giving financial services firms a bit more time to plan their move out of the UK.  Unless someone credible provides concrete plans on what is going to happen in the next two years or so and it is positive on trade terms, there will be a collapse in business confidence and investment and a recession that might move the UK's debt/deficit into crisis with the associated austerity.

I made no judgement on the financial impact, just pointed out osborne clearly lied on the remain side aswell- lying cant be a trigger for a revote as both sides were scandalous. I agree someone needs to step forward and get us a deal, I wish someone would do this instead of pointing fingers at eachother as we have already done it. Continual negative talk doesnt help the market confidence either?



I'm pretty sure that it would be wise to wait a month or so before ruling out an emergency budget.

Talking of gloom and doom

http://uk.reuters.com/article/us-britain-eu-soros-idUKKCN0ZB0VI

Billionaire investor George Soros said on Saturday that Britain's vote to leave the European Union makes "disintegration of the EU practically irreversible," and that the effects of Thursday's referendum will likely damage Britain.

"Britain eventually may or may not be relatively better off than other countries by leaving the EU, but its economy and people stand to suffer significantly in the short to medium term," he wrote in a commentary on the website Project Syndicate.

Soros made huge profits in 1992 by betting against the British pound as it was withdrawn from the European Exchange Rate Mechanism.

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« Reply #3696 on: June 25, 2016, 10:15:49 PM »

Odds on a world war starting as an excuse to delay and distract us from going through with it? Cameron decides to stick around for the safety of the country in this difficult time?

Cameron is toast. Never been a fan but do feel a bit sorry for him that his legacy is going to be the guy who lead us out of Europe.

As for future wars, maybe in 30/50/100 years time we will have Armageddon and they'll trace the day history changed to Thurs when the UK left the EU.

Or maybe life will just go on as it always does!

He might be the greatest PM in history getting out 20 years before it collapses.  Why do people only look at his legacy from one angle?  No one knows what is going to happen to the EU longer term.   The EU is becoming less and less relevant to the global economy.

Why would he get credit for taking us out when he didnt mean to? He should get credit for allowing democracy to take place only. He has to take the blame for alienating the electorate to a degree they would rather gamble with an uncertain future and that he was so naive he lined up an unnecessary vote he didnt win.
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« Reply #3697 on: June 25, 2016, 10:16:41 PM »

What are the chances of Marine Le Pen being successful with this push for french referendum? Could we really see a collapse of the whole EU?

Surely this would cause even more complex problems with France being in the Eurozone.
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« Reply #3698 on: June 25, 2016, 10:17:33 PM »

Odds on a world war starting as an excuse to delay and distract us from going through with it? Cameron decides to stick around for the safety of the country in this difficult time?

Cameron is toast. Never been a fan but do feel a bit sorry for him that his legacy is going to be the guy who lead us out of Europe.

As for future wars, maybe in 30/50/100 years time we will have Armageddon and they'll trace the day history changed to Thurs when the UK left the EU.

Or maybe life will just go on as it always does!

He might be the greatest PM in history getting out 20 years before it collapses.  Why do people only look at his legacy from one angle?  No one knows what is going to happen to the EU longer term.   The EU is becoming less and less relevant to the global economy.

Why would he get credit for taking us out when he didnt mean to? He should get credit for allowing democracy to take place only. He has to take the blame for alienating the electorate to a degree they would rather gamble with an uncertain future and that he was so naive he lined up an unnecessary vote he didnt win.

99% of people are results orientated aint it!  Why is making change risky but standing still never is risky?  Standing still loads of times in life means you end up losing for sure. 
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« Reply #3699 on: June 25, 2016, 10:22:13 PM »

Odds on a world war starting as an excuse to delay and distract us from going through with it? Cameron decides to stick around for the safety of the country in this difficult time?

Not even in the top 3 ridic comments on here in last 24 hours.
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« Reply #3700 on: June 25, 2016, 10:24:58 PM »

Odds on a world war starting as an excuse to delay and distract us from going through with it? Cameron decides to stick around for the safety of the country in this difficult time?

Not even in the top 3 ridic comments on here in last 24 hours.

Maggie done itwith the Falklands. 
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« Reply #3701 on: June 25, 2016, 10:34:33 PM »

Odds on a world war starting as an excuse to delay and distract us from going through with it? Cameron decides to stick around for the safety of the country in this difficult time?

Cameron is toast. Never been a fan but do feel a bit sorry for him that his legacy is going to be the guy who lead us out of Europe.

As for future wars, maybe in 30/50/100 years time we will have Armageddon and they'll trace the day history changed to Thurs when the UK left the EU.

Or maybe life will just go on as it always does!

He might be the greatest PM in history getting out 20 years before it collapses.  Why do people only look at his legacy from one angle?  No one knows what is going to happen to the EU longer term.   The EU is becoming less and less relevant to the global economy.

Why would he get credit for taking us out when he didnt mean to? He should get credit for allowing democracy to take place only. He has to take the blame for alienating the electorate to a degree they would rather gamble with an uncertain future and that he was so naive he lined up an unnecessary vote he didnt win.

99% of people are results orientated aint it!  Why is making change risky but standing still never is risky?  Standing still loads of times in life means you end up losing for sure. 

Change is fine, as long as you are still at the driving wheel, cameron just got run over by his own car. Camerons gaff can only be compared to Eden/ Chamberlain, both great politicians who will always be defined by their mistake while in the PM seat. He is a loser in this no matter what, he was either the PM who apposed a successful leave or a PM who allowed it to happen, theres no win for him in history. Hes just ended a 5 year PM spell in 1 year after gaining a workable majority.
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« Reply #3702 on: June 25, 2016, 10:35:43 PM »

Odds on a world war starting as an excuse to delay and distract us from going through with it? Cameron decides to stick around for the safety of the country in this difficult time?

Cameron is toast. Never been a fan but do feel a bit sorry for him that his legacy is going to be the guy who lead us out of Europe.

As for future wars, maybe in 30/50/100 years time we will have Armageddon and they'll trace the day history changed to Thurs when the UK left the EU.

Or maybe life will just go on as it always does!

He might be the greatest PM in history getting out 20 years before it collapses.  Why do people only look at his legacy from one angle?  No one knows what is going to happen to the EU longer term.   The EU is becoming less and less relevant to the global economy.  Now we have left it will become even more irrelevant now our chunk on turnover isn't included in the figures.

The way history is painted it's usually one big moment that defines your legacy like Iraq and Blair.
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« Reply #3703 on: June 25, 2016, 10:38:05 PM »

Maybe Cameron orchestrated this to get us stop talking about the pig's head?
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« Reply #3704 on: June 25, 2016, 10:41:16 PM »

If there were to be a 'Second bite of the cherry' referendum tomorrow, what do you think the result would be, and by what margin?

The difference, as has been pointed out, is the the Leave, had it lost, would have accepted it and carried on.

Because Leave have won, they have stopped campaigning and we forget(or not being constantly reminded of) the positives of leaving and all we have heard since are the negatives, so it would swing dissproportionally towards Remain, methinks.

Again, if we have a further referendum in the near future, there is very little point in calling ourselves a working democracy, and I would have said that if the result had been reversed.

Its a bit different as Leave would probably chase another opportunity in the next ten years and Remain will never get another opportunity. If there was another referendum and the country voted to Remain, isn't that better? The people who voted won't have called for a second referendum and people would obviously be very upset on the Leave side so it would definitely take a big change from the people for a second referendum to even do anything. Why are you valuing one referendum over another? Because it was first? Its not like the 48% of the people who voted can demand a referendum and actually change the result.
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