The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[RickBFA]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37997713

 
Nice to see unemployment down again.

Meanwhile, the number of people claiming unemployment benefits in October increased by 9,800, the biggest rise since May, the ONS said.
The employment figures are based on the Labour Force Survey, in which the ONS speaks to about 40,000 households once every three months.
That is a very large survey, but it still means the figures are not precise.
The ONS is 95% confident that the figure of a 37,000 fall in unemployment is accurate give or take 79,000. That means that the fall in unemployment is not statistically significant.

I already told him to stop with the positive stuff, no need to give him a beating about it....

Don't worry Woodsey, I'm sure the same line will be used when the numbers go up eh?

[TightEnd]

i pop a lot of links up but this is very good indeed

Britain is caught between Trump and a hard place

"This is London’s geopolitical reality now: caught between a retrograde American administration with which it no longer shares a world view and a frustrated Europe it is trying to divorce"

https://www.chathamhouse.org/expert/comment/britain-caught-between-trump-and-hard-place

[TightEnd]

The New Brexit highway code :-)

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[Woodsey]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37997713

 
Nice to see unemployment down again.

Meanwhile, the number of people claiming unemployment benefits in October increased by 9,800, the biggest rise since May, the ONS said.
The employment figures are based on the Labour Force Survey, in which the ONS speaks to about 40,000 households once every three months.
That is a very large survey, but it still means the figures are not precise.
The ONS is 95% confident that the figure of a 37,000 fall in unemployment is accurate give or take 79,000. That means that the fall in unemployment is not statistically significant.

I already told him to stop with the positive stuff, no need to give him a beating about it....

Don't worry Woodsey, I'm sure the same line will be used when the numbers go up eh?

I guess sometimes you just have to let the doom and gloomers wallow in their pigsty of misery 

[rfgqqabc]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37997713

 
Nice to see unemployment down again.

Meanwhile, the number of people claiming unemployment benefits in October increased by 9,800, the biggest rise since May, the ONS said.
The employment figures are based on the Labour Force Survey, in which the ONS speaks to about 40,000 households once every three months.
That is a very large survey, but it still means the figures are not precise.
The ONS is 95% confident that the figure of a 37,000 fall in unemployment is accurate give or take 79,000. That means that the fall in unemployment is not statistically significant.

I already told him to stop with the positive stuff, no need to give him a beating about it....

Don't worry Woodsey, I'm sure the same line will be used when the numbers go up eh?

I guess sometimes you just have to let the doom and gloomers wallow in their pigsty of misery  

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All Redsimon did was help you understand the data, he didn't write anything negative. There is no opinion there (apart from the precise comment i guess). I understand the desire to only want things posted that support your views but numbers are important and they can cut through the bias.  

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"But Labour MP Stephen Kinnock, a supporter of the Open Britain campaign, said Brits travelling to the continent for holidays will be dismayed at having to pay for something they are used to getting for free.

He said: "Nobody voted for more expensive holidays and an exemption for British travellers to Europe should be something we can negotiate.

"This is yet more evidence of the hidden cost of Brexit."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/travel-tax-eu-commission-visa-waiver-british-citizens-brexit-a7421626.html

Slow news day and a £5 5 year visa is hardly a big deal. The bolded is eye opening. People voted for more money to go to the NHS. The comments section is really incredible and unfortunately these are the people who have some interest in politics... Why are Leavers still talking about a copy of the Norwegian deal. Even they admit that was a mistake.

[Woodsey]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37997713

 
Nice to see unemployment down again.

Meanwhile, the number of people claiming unemployment benefits in October increased by 9,800, the biggest rise since May, the ONS said.
The employment figures are based on the Labour Force Survey, in which the ONS speaks to about 40,000 households once every three months.
That is a very large survey, but it still means the figures are not precise.
The ONS is 95% confident that the figure of a 37,000 fall in unemployment is accurate give or take 79,000. That means that the fall in unemployment is not statistically significant.

I already told him to stop with the positive stuff, no need to give him a beating about it....

Don't worry Woodsey, I'm sure the same line will be used when the numbers go up eh?

I guess sometimes you just have to let the doom and gloomers wallow in their pigsty of misery  

Click to see full-size image.

All Redsimon did was help you understand the data, he didn't write anything negative. There is no opinion there (apart from the precise comment i guess). I understand the desire to only want things posted that support your views but numbers are important and they can cut through the bias.  

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"But Labour MP Stephen Kinnock, a supporter of the Open Britain campaign, said Brits travelling to the continent for holidays will be dismayed at having to pay for something they are used to getting for free.

He said: "Nobody voted for more expensive holidays and an exemption for British travellers to Europe should be something we can negotiate.

"This is yet more evidence of the hidden cost of Brexit."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/travel-tax-eu-commission-visa-waiver-british-citizens-brexit-a7421626.html

Slow news day and a £5 5 year visa is hardly a big deal. The bolded is eye opening. People voted for more money to go to the NHS. The comments section is really incredible and unfortunately these are the people who have some interest in politics... Why are Leavers still talking about a copy of the Norwegian deal. Even they admit that was a mistake.

It's more the general point that when someone writes something positive someone has to try and slap it down, there are no positives of course for remoaners lol.

If you watch the BBC 10pm news last night they gave a better representation of the figures which was broadly positive....

[rfgqqabc]

i pop a lot of links up but this is very good indeed

Britain is caught between Trump and a hard place

"This is London’s geopolitical reality now: caught between a retrograde American administration with which it no longer shares a world view and a frustrated Europe it is trying to divorce"

https://www.chathamhouse.org/expert/comment/britain-caught-between-trump-and-hard-place

Big fan of the better to be a Trump ally he listens to than an opponent he ignores line.

https://hbr.org/2016/08/a-definitive-guide-to-the-brexit-negotiations

One of the better summaries of everything I've seen. I wish it had been available beforehand. Should Brits be hoping for Le Pan to win in France? PVV (Dutch UKIP) have surged also in the last year too despite falling a little between 2011-2015.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_Dutch_general_election,_2017

Geert Wilders seems like a bit of a character. Jacqui Smith actually banned him for entering the UK once.

[redsimon]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-37997713

 
Nice to see unemployment down again.

Meanwhile, the number of people claiming unemployment benefits in October increased by 9,800, the biggest rise since May, the ONS said.
The employment figures are based on the Labour Force Survey, in which the ONS speaks to about 40,000 households once every three months.
That is a very large survey, but it still means the figures are not precise.
The ONS is 95% confident that the figure of a 37,000 fall in unemployment is accurate give or take 79,000. That means that the fall in unemployment is not statistically significant.

I already told him to stop with the positive stuff, no need to give him a beating about it....

Don't worry Woodsey, I'm sure the same line will be used when the numbers go up eh?

I guess sometimes you just have to let the doom and gloomers wallow in their pigsty of misery  

Click to see full-size image.

All Redsimon did was help you understand the data, he didn't write anything negative. There is no opinion there (apart from the precise comment i guess). I understand the desire to only want things posted that support your views but numbers are important and they can cut through the bias.  

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"But Labour MP Stephen Kinnock, a supporter of the Open Britain campaign, said Brits travelling to the continent for holidays will be dismayed at having to pay for something they are used to getting for free.

He said: "Nobody voted for more expensive holidays and an exemption for British travellers to Europe should be something we can negotiate.

"This is yet more evidence of the hidden cost of Brexit."

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/travel-tax-eu-commission-visa-waiver-british-citizens-brexit-a7421626.html

Slow news day and a £5 5 year visa is hardly a big deal. The bolded is eye opening. People voted for more money to go to the NHS. The comments section is really incredible and unfortunately these are the people who have some interest in politics... Why are Leavers still talking about a copy of the Norwegian deal. Even they admit that was a mistake.

It's more the general point that when someone writes something positive someone has to try and slap it down, there are no positives of course for remoaners lol.

If you watch the BBC 10pm news last night they gave a better representation of the figures which was broadly positive....

It wasn't a slapdown tbh it was from the article link Rick posted! I voted "in" but I support us leaving now, as we voted to btw, so less remoaner please!

[TightEnd]

Berlin wall

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[TightEnd]

an interesting hypothetical

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[TightEnd]

How EURef REMAIN voters would split if LDs only party promising 2nd referendum at a GE

CON 24
LAB 23
LD 42
UKIP 1

YouGov polling

[TightEnd]

more detailed comment on this polling

http://ukpollingreport.co.uk/blog/archives/9778

[TightEnd]

On how the government is doing at negotiating Britain's exit from the European Union:

Well: 18% (-7)
Badly: 52% (+6)

(via YouGov)

[TightEnd]

Article 50 case

just to slow things down a bit!

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[AndrewT]

On how the government is doing at negotiating Britain's exit from the European Union:

Well: 18% (-7)
Badly: 52% (+6)

(via YouGov)

!!!

"I say Marjorie, Theresa and the boys are doing an outstanding job on the old Brexit front - couldn't have gone better. Just think how much better things will be when we have that extra £350m a week"