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Question: How will you vote on December 12th 2019
Conservative - 19 (33.9%)
Labour - 12 (21.4%)
SNP - 2 (3.6%)
Lib Dem - 8 (14.3%)
Brexit - 1 (1.8%)
Green - 6 (10.7%)
Other - 2 (3.6%)
Spoil - 0 (0%)
Not voting - 6 (10.7%)
Total Voters: 55

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« Reply #9810 on: June 09, 2017, 01:10:04 PM »

It would be really pleasant if there were other mobs!

We have the rich and the poor party, cant we have the 'we believe in Science and aren't motivated by greed/power party' and it actually become credible.

That would be oh so lovely.

From what I am reading the DUP is the "don't believe in science" party. So halfway there.

Never mind that they are in bed with an active paramilitary organisation.  The UDA are still active across the North of Ireland.  Who's the terrorist sympathisers now?  

May in bed with the Saudis and DUP shacked up with the UDA.  
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« Reply #9811 on: June 09, 2017, 01:14:35 PM »

Do we need to start paying proper salaries to MP's and cabinet members in order to attract a better quality of person to run our country? 
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« Reply #9812 on: June 09, 2017, 01:17:15 PM »

Do we need to start paying proper salaries to MP's and cabinet members in order to attract a better quality of person to run our country? 

imagine what could be done without charlatan shills and making funding rules more fair/open!!
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« Reply #9813 on: June 09, 2017, 01:18:40 PM »

Do we need to start paying proper salaries to MP's and cabinet members in order to attract a better quality of person to run our country? 

I like the guy from Siemens we spoke so much sense on QT a few weeks back.
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« Reply #9814 on: June 09, 2017, 01:20:13 PM »

Do we need to start paying proper salaries to MP's and cabinet members in order to attract a better quality of person to run our country? 

I think so, and of course it would be interesting to see how that affects thresholds for higher rates of tax Smiley
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« Reply #9815 on: June 09, 2017, 01:21:54 PM »

I mean there's no way this government can last, is there?

On both wings of the Tory party they'll revolt if the Brexit talks are heading the way they don't want.
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« Reply #9816 on: June 09, 2017, 01:29:04 PM »

She must be dreadful, because this time 12, even 6months ago, Cornyn was unelectable and a general laughing stock. Even amongst Labour supporters.

No he wasn't.

All it took was for people to listen to him.

He was not getting a fair hearing. But election law meant he was allowed to get his message across.



Thing is Camel, with such a big lead in the polls its taken a good campaign from Corbyn and a shocking one from May to get Labour into this position.

If May had been less wooden and not fucked up on Dementia Tax she would have pissed a majority.

It has taken an almost perfect storm for Labour to still be in a position where they are 57 seats behind the Tories.



Where are the Tories going to get the extra votes to win from?

Labour have all their traditional voters who "can't vote for Corbyn" to attract back?

I would suggest it's as many as 10% of their usual vote. I know quite a few.

If Corbyn can pull the party togther now and return Labour to a broad church, plenty of the lost souls will come back.

If the Conservatives have another early election it's not too bad. But like I suggested earlier - does the Labour vote stay high enough after Corbyn goes?

Or does he aim to be Prime Minister for the first time when he's in his 70's?
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« Reply #9817 on: June 09, 2017, 01:31:06 PM »

for many others in politics old age and being senile seems a positive so why not for him?


replace him with Starmer and Labour could be a strong force imo.
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« Reply #9818 on: June 09, 2017, 01:42:34 PM »

Who does Corbyn bring into hs shadow cabinet to beef it up? 

I think Ged Killen might get the role as Shawdow Scottish secretary.

I think Chukka comes back in and from her speech it looks like Yvette Cooper wants to be involved. 

And what about the Tories?  Rumours of Gove back in the cabinet, surely he can't be trusted?
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« Reply #9819 on: June 09, 2017, 01:47:39 PM »

Let's call what it is, this is bad for the country. A damaged prime minister propped by a bunch of loonies going into negotiations with the EU for the future of the country. We are absolutely worse off short term than a Tory landslide, if you look at things from any sensible political view.

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« Reply #9820 on: June 09, 2017, 01:48:19 PM »

Shit got to work early tomorrow, wish I could stay up  Cry

What's work?  Is that what people do with pension pots?  Grin

It's either a pension pot or be a gambler and worry about a pot to piss in  Grin

haha send us a picture tomorrow from work at 8am to the 'where are you now' thread when Corbs has won by a majority with a big smile on your face!

I might go and be a suicide bomber at his next rally if he does!  

I missed this post.

What a dreadful human being you really are. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Bullshit, You just need a sense of humour...
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« Reply #9821 on: June 09, 2017, 01:48:56 PM »

Why are labour people getting so excited about losing an election? Roll Eyes

The fistpumping is quite endearing.  It's like when your team go down 0-1 away to Chelsea.  Good effort lads.

I expect it from Woodsey, but I'm surprised you are being so naive DB.

LAB + LD + SNP + PC + Green = about 55% of the electorate.

Under a proper electoral system, Corbyn would be having sitting down for a  nice lunch with Her Maj about now.

The Tory/Unionist coupling cannot last. We'll back at the ballots in the Autumn and Labour will win an outright majority.
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If you are pinning your hopes on a 5 way coalition I'd say you are still desperate.  We shall see what happens in the future but ultimately Labour lost again.  Just not as bad as expected.  You are getting carried away.

Mate, you are in the same place I was after the Brexit vote. Denial.

Just like me and all the other REMOANERS (haha, that was a really funny joke) had to accept it and get on with it, you'll have to as well.

Took me about 9 months. But I'm a sad, stubborn bastard. Sure you'll get there in a few weeks.

Looks like I get shafted twice then as a remainer myself.
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« Reply #9822 on: June 09, 2017, 01:56:30 PM »

Shit got to work early tomorrow, wish I could stay up  Cry

What's work?  Is that what people do with pension pots?  Grin

It's either a pension pot or be a gambler and worry about a pot to piss in  Grin

haha send us a picture tomorrow from work at 8am to the 'where are you now' thread when Corbs has won by a majority with a big smile on your face!

I might go and be a suicide bomber at his next rally if he does!  

I missed this post.

What a dreadful human being you really are. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Bullshit, You just need a sense of humour...


where are we going to deport you?
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« Reply #9823 on: June 09, 2017, 01:58:40 PM »

Good day for the pension woodsey.  FTSE up 45 spots already.  Dollar down to 1.27.  Fuck the haters.
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« Reply #9824 on: June 09, 2017, 02:00:01 PM »

Shit got to work early tomorrow, wish I could stay up  Cry

What's work?  Is that what people do with pension pots?  Grin

It's either a pension pot or be a gambler and worry about a pot to piss in  Grin

haha send us a picture tomorrow from work at 8am to the 'where are you now' thread when Corbs has won by a majority with a big smile on your face!

I might go and be a suicide bomber at his next rally if he does!  

I missed this post.

What a dreadful human being you really are. You should be ashamed of yourself.

Bullshit, You just need a sense of humour...

where are we going to deport you?

Dunno, I'm open to suggestions?
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