The UK Politics and EU Referendum thread - merged

[Marky147]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/16/welfare-system-cruel-misogynistic-un-expert-warns-damning-report/

Just out of curiosity, if I click this link I get an 'accept cookies' prompt. I can either accept all or 'manage cookies'

If I opt to manage cookies I get dozens of options, most of which I don't understand and don't have the time to deal with.

This is the same for most websites.

What should I do?

What do you do?

I just accept because, naively perhaps, I assume I'm just being asked permission to collect data that they previously collected without my permission and I'm still here and functioning.

Same as that.

If they want to look through my search history, have at it. It's going to be more damaging for them, than me

[RED-DOG]

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2018/11/16/welfare-system-cruel-misogynistic-un-expert-warns-damning-report/

Just out of curiosity, if I click this link I get an 'accept cookies' prompt. I can either accept all or 'manage cookies'

If I opt to manage cookies I get dozens of options, most of which I don't understand and don't have the time to deal with.

This is the same for most websites.

What should I do?

What do you do?

I just accept because, naively perhaps, I assume I'm just being asked permission to collect data that they previously collected without my permission and I'm still here and functioning.

Same as that.

If they want to look through my search history, have at it. It's going to be more damaging for them, than me

lol.

[Pokerpops]

Considered reflections on a small faction of the Conservative party, from today's Daily Telegraph

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/11/17/theresa-may-class-cowards-crackpots-plotting-against/ …

 

I just read that to my wife - it’s priceless.

[kukushkin88]

Considered reflections on a small faction of the Conservative party, from today's Daily Telegraph

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2018/11/17/theresa-may-class-cowards-crackpots-plotting-against/ …

 

I just read that to my wife - it’s priceless.

If voting it down is ‘devilment’. What is taking the only option that guarantees it hits the fan on someone/anyone else’s watch? In the national interest:-), it’s a bad joke.

[kukushkin88]

Sturgeon talking sense on Marr. Speaking of May... 2.5 years of no deal better than a bad deal, one week of take this or accept catastrophic no deal scenario. I appreciate herding the crazies (Mantis and Woodsey helpfully give us insight on this) is a tough gig but it’s a sustained period (years) of a deliberate and calculated lie, for which the PM should be held to account.

[Woodsey]

Sturgeon talking sense on Marr. Speaking of May... 2.5 years of no deal better than a bad deal, one week of take this or accept catastrophic no deal scenario. I appreciate herding the crazies (Mantis and Woodsey helpfully give us insight on this) is a tough gig but it’s a sustained period (years) of a deliberate and calculated lie, for which the PM should be held to account.

It’s actually quite funny that up you consider yourself normal rather than one of the crazies when it comes to political opinions 

[kukushkin88]

Sturgeon talking sense on Marr. Speaking of May... 2.5 years of no deal better than a bad deal, one week of take this or accept catastrophic no deal scenario. I appreciate herding the crazies (Mantis and Woodsey helpfully give us insight on this) is a tough gig but it’s a sustained period (years) of a deliberate and calculated lie, for which the PM should be held to account.

It’s actually quite funny that up you consider yourself normal rather than one of the crazies when it comes to political opinions 

I’m not normal. I’m not crazy enough to never change my mind on which political party I support, I’m not even crazy enough to say I’d never change my mind on Brexit.

[Woodsey]

Sturgeon talking sense on Marr. Speaking of May... 2.5 years of no deal better than a bad deal, one week of take this or accept catastrophic no deal scenario. I appreciate herding the crazies (Mantis and Woodsey helpfully give us insight on this) is a tough gig but it’s a sustained period (years) of a deliberate and calculated lie, for which the PM should be held to account.

It’s actually quite funny that up you consider yourself normal rather than one of the crazies when it comes to political opinions 

I’m not normal. I’m not crazy enough to never change my mind on which political party I support, I’m not even crazy enough to say I’d never change my mind on Brexit.

Yup I know that....

[kukushkin88]

The look and riposte from Chakrabarti on the “patronise” comment, so good :-).

[TightEnd]

here’s brexiter Nadine Dorries complaining that we won’t have any MEPs after Brexit

https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/1063843376133484544

my former MP. Not the brightest. Very strongly held convictions though

[kukushkin88]

Sturgeon talking sense on Marr. Speaking of May... 2.5 years of no deal better than a bad deal, one week of take this or accept catastrophic no deal scenario. I appreciate herding the crazies (Mantis and Woodsey helpfully give us insight on this) is a tough gig but it’s a sustained period (years) of a deliberate and calculated lie, for which the PM should be held to account.

It’s actually quite funny that up you consider yourself normal rather than one of the crazies when it comes to political opinions 

I’m not normal. I’m not crazy enough to never change my mind on which political party I support, I’m not even crazy enough to say I’d never change my mind on Brexit.

Yup I know that....

I can’t imagine anything worse than being normal.

[kukushkin88]

here’s brexiter Nadine Dorries complaining that we won’t have any MEPs after Brexit

https://twitter.com/JimMFelton/status/1063843376133484544

my former MP. Not the brightest. Very strongly held convictions though

It is at the same time both hilarious and tragic how flawed democracy* is. Imagine any other walk of life where you could be this and keep your job.

(*It is the best system though, I think)

[Woodsey]

Sturgeon talking sense on Marr. Speaking of May... 2.5 years of no deal better than a bad deal, one week of take this or accept catastrophic no deal scenario. I appreciate herding the crazies (Mantis and Woodsey helpfully give us insight on this) is a tough gig but it’s a sustained period (years) of a deliberate and calculated lie, for which the PM should be held to account.

It’s actually quite funny that up you consider yourself normal rather than one of the crazies when it comes to political opinions 

I’m not normal. I’m not crazy enough to never change my mind on which political party I support, I’m not even crazy enough to say I’d never change my mind on Brexit.

Yup I know that....

I can’t imagine anything worse than being normal.

Explains a lot!

[kukushkin88]

Sturgeon talking sense on Marr. Speaking of May... 2.5 years of no deal better than a bad deal, one week of take this or accept catastrophic no deal scenario. I appreciate herding the crazies (Mantis and Woodsey helpfully give us insight on this) is a tough gig but it’s a sustained period (years) of a deliberate and calculated lie, for which the PM should be held to account.

It’s actually quite funny that up you consider yourself normal rather than one of the crazies when it comes to political opinions  

I’m not normal. I’m not crazy enough to never change my mind on which political party I support, I’m not even crazy enough to say I’d never change my mind on Brexit.

Yup I know that....

I can’t imagine anything worse than being normal.

Explains a lot!

It’s embarrassing that you’re my internet nemesis, yet another area of life where I’m sure I should be better. Let’s leave it there for now though. Have a lovely day.

[Doobs]

Sturgeon talking sense on Marr. Speaking of May... 2.5 years of no deal better than a bad deal, one week of take this or accept catastrophic no deal scenario. I appreciate herding the crazies (Mantis and Woodsey helpfully give us insight on this) is a tough gig but it’s a sustained period (years) of a deliberate and calculated lie, for which the PM should be held to account.

What is wrong with the deal?  A big chunk of the people who voted yes to Brexit were either reduce EU immigration or remove ECJ/EU parliament control.   Both those will be gone in a couple of years.  This isn't watered down Brexit for them, it was their entire Brexit.

So we are left with the Customs Union, which most voters don't care about; and Ireland, which most don't care about and has not been solved by anyone.  Given the Customs Union and Ireland issue are so linked then I don't see where you want us to go.  As yet, you haven't told us your solution. People have posted about the unsolveable Ireland issue many times, and there hasn't been one remotely sensible solution posted.  

I have no idea where you get the 2.5 years of problems with no deal, it is going to be really shit in the short term, and given it doesn't solve the problems in Ireland, then it could cause problems there for generations.